Dwight Schrute
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Unknown Rando Doesn’t Get Masterpiece
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mcjmetroid
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I hate when people make videos complaining about the flaws of games from the benefit of nearly 30 years of hindsight.
Neff
Member
I initially thought the same, but gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed that he might have some genuine (if misguided) criticisms, and gave it a watch.
He doesn't. He just sucks at the game, blames the controls, and refuses to learn.
existensmaximum
Member
I haven't watched his video but to answer some people's questions - it's entirely possible to not like Mario 64. I thought it was a shit game when it was released, and I've never liked it. I've tried and tried many times, but I just don't enjoy it at all.
I guess I was just so disappointed after Super Mario World which I think is one of the best and most creative games ever created, and I didn't like the transition to 3D. I didn't like the music, the level design, the controller.. Didn't like anything. I especially didn't like the graphics, I hated the early low-polygon 3D look.
I'm not trying to take away anyone else's opinion or experience, but that's what I've always thought since day 1. I've thought about making a thread explaining my opinion in detail just to see if anyone agrees at all. So far, I don't think I've ever heard anyone who agrees with me (unless they hate all platformers or all Mario games but that's not relevant).
I guess I was just so disappointed after Super Mario World which I think is one of the best and most creative games ever created, and I didn't like the transition to 3D. I didn't like the music, the level design, the controller.. Didn't like anything. I especially didn't like the graphics, I hated the early low-polygon 3D look.
I'm not trying to take away anyone else's opinion or experience, but that's what I've always thought since day 1. I've thought about making a thread explaining my opinion in detail just to see if anyone agrees at all. So far, I don't think I've ever heard anyone who agrees with me (unless they hate all platformers or all Mario games but that's not relevant).
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ArtemisClydeFrog
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E-Cat
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I know exactly what you mean. And you are so right! At some point after Sunshine, Mario just stopped feeling like a physically grounded being.
existensmaximum
Member
NopeOpinions and all, but
this may be news to you, but I don't need your permission to have my own opinion 
There's no such thing as being wrong about what I think or feel about a game. Or how much I enjoy playing it.
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ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Nope
There's no such thing as being wrong about what I think or feel about a game. Or how much I enjoy playing it.
shenmue mugen
Member
this.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
I gave Super Mario 64 for the first time in 2020 with the 3D All Stars pack... he says in the video description..
poor kid thinking mario 64 played that bad back in the day.. when you just unboxed your brand new 64.. and prolly played a 3d platformer for the first time in your life with a mint n64 controller a stick mario 64 was build around for..
then this raging retard plays it on hands down the worst fucking joystick ever made by nintendo.
just.... fuck
poor kid thinking mario 64 played that bad back in the day.. when you just unboxed your brand new 64.. and prolly played a 3d platformer for the first time in your life with a mint n64 controller a stick mario 64 was build around for..
then this raging retard plays it on hands down the worst fucking joystick ever made by nintendo.
just.... fuck
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SuperBabyMethod
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From what I gather from the comments this is a young YouTuber who’s probably never played a game that doesn’t handhold a player in what to do and requires some skill to control.
Won’t click on the video because he will get clicks/money; Mario 64, while old, has aged quite well.
Won’t click on the video because he will get clicks/money; Mario 64, while old, has aged quite well.
infinitys_7th
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He complained about the red coin at the start of the first Bowser world due to momentum, but then shows footage (presumably of him playing) of getting the other red coin across from the flamethrower where he uses the side jump to reverse direction.
Mario controls fine - his movement options are there for a reason. The only thing that is not great is the camera and that is because it is one of the first of its kind (maybe the first, although I see to recall an AKSHULY there that some other game had it first).
Mario controls fine - his movement options are there for a reason. The only thing that is not great is the camera and that is because it is one of the first of its kind (maybe the first, although I see to recall an AKSHULY there that some other game had it first).
swaffles23
Member
Mario 64 is almost perfect imo especially when you perfect the movement. Just watch some of the top SM64 speedrunners
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Visually?
No but the gameplay is still on point.
No but the gameplay is still on point.
Bakkus
Member
He brings up some very good points actually. I also dislike how Mario controls in this game.
The thing is that it takes forever to learn it to the point where controlling Mario becomes a breeze. It's still a good game if you play it safe, but really frustrating if you try to do things speedrun-esque. Also, the Bob-omb battlefield music sucks. But was amazing in Galaxy 2.
Neff
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it takes a long time to be really good, yeah. But you can be more than competent from the outset if you're willing to spend a little time figuring out how Mario works. There's a reason people still vividly recall playing SM64 for the first time, and that's because it was so appealing to simply waste time messing around in the castle garden, learning and experimenting.
It's fair to say though that players in 1996 would have had an advantage of sorts walking into SM64 blindly, when there was nothing remotely like it at that point, and were eagerly willing to learn without preconceived attitudes to design and control, as opposed to someone who has grown up playing subsequent 3D games and struggles with visiting the past.
It's a shame Nintendo never saw fit to do another 3D Mario in 64's style, with its heavy emphasis on momentum, but I can see why history has preferred control schemes with less friction since, because it's simply what the majority of players prefer.
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sunnysideup
Banned
Mario 64 is the greatest 3D platformer ever made. Much better than the cookie cutter crap Nintendo release these days.
The controls are fucking spot on perfect.
The controls are fucking spot on perfect.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
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SoraNoKuni
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You know I raise my flameshield as well but I think it aged like crap, camera, and running feels like every surface is ice.
I much prefer crash bandicoot on psx, way more responsive controls.
Though Mario64 was really revolutionary in terms of full 3d platformers.
I much prefer crash bandicoot on psx, way more responsive controls.
Though Mario64 was really revolutionary in terms of full 3d platformers.
Dr. Suchong
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I remember playing Mario 64 for the first time when working at Gamestation, on an imported Japanese N64 from Planet distribution iirc.
I was probably one of the first lucky few in the UK to play it.
I was even allowed to take the console home for an evening.
It really felt like the future. Definitely still holds up well today.
This kid should stick to playing Fortnite,
Filthy Casual lol
I was probably one of the first lucky few in the UK to play it.
I was even allowed to take the console home for an evening.
It really felt like the future. Definitely still holds up well today.
This kid should stick to playing Fortnite,
Filthy Casual lol
tylrdiablos
Member
2 quick questions:
1: How do you people stumble across this shit?
2: Why do you bother watching it when you know the creator is clearly just seeking attention?
Don't bother replying, I don't care.
1: How do you people stumble across this shit?
2: Why do you bother watching it when you know the creator is clearly just seeking attention?
Don't bother replying, I don't care.
