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Titanfall PC: Pilot Hunter/CTF gone as separate modes: "not widely used, long waits"

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I almost bought the game yesterday (mentioned it on the other topic) because I thought that the 40% discount would place the game in a good content/money value for me, but then I saw this and changed my mind.
 

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I didn't buy the game, but if I did I would be a bit pissed off once they start taking away already limited game types.
 

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Today I had an argument with my neighbor about changes in multiplayer games & support on PC and how it becomes more and more console-like* (e.g. no mod support, not being able to host own servers, only DLC, no UGC, etc. - the worst examples, of course) - reading this now only strengthens my point of view.


*it's simplified, but I think you get my point
 

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What the fuck is this? Why would you do that? There's literally no reason for removing content.
There is a point. The community is really small.

You really think they wanted to take out modes? They were forced to by the small community.

Should have had a server browser.
 

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Oh well, never even booted up those modes.


Games get too caught up in having every mode in exsistance and it dilutes quality.

Levelcapgaming made a good video on it and BF4 a while back.
Yeah. just throwing CTF onto the same maps didnt work well.

Teams need to hand craft levels built just for CTF for those levels to be worthwhile. That is why Unreal Tournament last so long for me. Those custom made player maps for CTF were just insanely good.
 

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No one plays it -> patch it out -> people complain -> patch it back in -> people start playing it.

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Jito

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There are now 3 gamemodes in a full priced online only game, the lack of content just keeps getting worse somehow.
 

mrklaw

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On Xbox One, it seems last titan standing seems to be the least played mode. I don't think I've started a game with a full 12 players all week and often finish games with only 4 or 5 players on each team.
Wow,really? One of my favourite modes on PC, along with hard point

This is a crappy move though. I guess they don't have the population to satisfy all those modes which is sad. Wonder if that means we won't see any new game modes anytime soon?
 

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There is a point. The community is really small.

You really think they wanted to take out modes? They were forced to by the small community.

Should have had a server browser.


Why?

The servers, if their explanation is correct, are spun up as needed. That was the whole point of using Microsoft's servers.
There's no cost to keeping the modes there. If people want to wait, fine. The match will be made for CTF and one of Microsoft's servers will be activated.

This would make a modicum of sense (ignoring for now that the setup isn't ideal in the first place, since the whole situation is avoided in the first place by having a flexible server setup which is what most other PC games out there have) if there were actual resources being wasted by keeping CTF servers up.
 

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What the fuck is this shit? Bring back dedicated servers for pc - we'll have our own matchmaking...
 

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Not understanding why everyone thinks this is horrible. If no one was playing the game modes and no games were being able to be started because of this, why keep it around?

I tried pilot hunter or whatever it's called when the game first came out, after about 6 minutes of waiting I gave up. I imagine it was even worse now 3 months after the game came out.
 

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Man, I'm building my PC tomorrow and I'm bummed that people don't play CTF. I was looking forward to upgrading to the PC version at 40% off :(
 

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Put the game on Steam, add Steam Achievements, Steamworks functionality (ala CS:GO) and drop the price and you wouldn't have this problem.

Putting it on Origin only is a death sentence.
Yep, it never had a chance with me because of that. Honestly I probably wouldn't have got it anyway, but Origin signed its death warrant.
 

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Put the game on Steam, add Steam Achievements, Steamworks functionality (ala CS:GO) and drop the price and you wouldn't have this problem.

Putting it on Origin only is a death sentence.
Yeah but then EA gets less money per sale. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Typical EA.

They could also use a server browser and real PC options.
 

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Not understanding why everyone thinks this is horrible. If no one was playing the game modes and no games were being able to be started because of this, why keep it around?

I tried pilot hunter or whatever it's called when the game first came out, after about 6 minutes of waiting I gave up. I imagine it was even worse now 3 months after the game came out.
Yup, it was extremely hard to find a game in Pilot Hunter. The game died quick.

I really don't see a single thing wrong. I guess people don't understand what Respawn is doing here. People think Respawn is doing it for the hell of it.

The game is dead, might as well put the few left together and try and make finding games easier.

This isn't happening to the Xbox One version, where I presume to be quite popular compared to the PC version.
 

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Thanks for your understanding as we try to make Titanfall a better experience for everyone.
I don't even understand this. How is this a better experience for everyone? The players that play Attrition/Hardpoint are unaffected so that leaves the people that liked Pilot Hunter and CTF, and I don't understand how taking away their favorite game mode helps their experience.

That would be like Valve removing everything besides Dust II, Mirage and Inferno from competitive play because the wait times can be anywhere from 5-10 minutes while those 3 maps are <30 second wait times
 
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I didnt like playing those modes, but I completely understand the frustration and anger of the people who did. I would imagine that just having servers idling to some extent cost them money, or the long wait times deterred players even more.
Thanks again, consoles. Keep fucking that chicken.
 

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Yeah but then EA gets less money per sale. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Typical EA.
They sell Titanfall on just about every DD except Steam, so they're getting less money anyways.

Letting people host there own servers + a server browser would have fixed this.
 

Jito

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Not understanding why everyone thinks this is horrible. If no one was playing the game modes and no games were being able to be started because of this, why keep it around?

I tried pilot hunter or whatever it's called when the game first came out, after about 6 minutes of waiting I gave up. I imagine it was even worse now 3 months after the game came out.
Taking modes out of a game 2 months after release and not replacing it with anything is ok with you? What if someone bought the game to play CTF? The game now has less content than when it released lol
 

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So innovative. Buying incomplete games is so last-gen.

Now you can buy games that become intentionally less complete over time.
 

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I don't even understand this. How is this a better experience for everyone? The players that play Attrition/Hardpoint are unaffected so that leaves the people that liked Pilot Hunter and CTF, and I don't understand how taking away their favorite game mode helps their experience.
It creates problems because I'd imagine as is the way of internet gaming nerds, they instantly blame the game.

The game types have not been removed, they appear in the variety playlist.
 

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Why?

The servers, if their explanation is correct, are spun up as needed. That was the whole point of using Microsoft's servers.
There's no cost to keeping the modes there. If people want to wait, fine. The match will be made for CTF and one of Microsoft's servers will be activated.

This would make a modicum of sense (ignoring for now that the setup isn't ideal in the first place, since the whole situation is avoided in the first place by having a flexible server setup which is what most other PC games out there have) if there were actual resources being wasted by keeping CTF servers up.
Microsoft's servers? What the hell are you talking about?
 

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Taking modes out of a game 2 months after release and not replacing it with anything is ok with you? What if someone bought the game to play CTF? The game now has less content than when it released lol
Do you not understand that they were put together in a single playlist to make finding games easier?
 

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Yeah but then EA gets less money per sale. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Typical EA.
Jim Sterling put it best when he posted "This is an industry that would rather make no money than some money, if it can't make ALL the money."

EA is providing a fantastic example.
 

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Did they remove it from the variety pack too? That would suck if that were the case.

Edit they are not, so I don't feel bad about this change
 

Jito

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Do you not understand that they were put together in a single playlist to make finding games easier?
Do you not understand that they didn't, variety playlist isn't just CTF and Pilot Hunter, why should people have to sit through stuff they don't want to play or jump between lobbies just to get games? Let them wait if they want.