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Transgender woman 'should be allowed womb transplants so they can have their own babies'

Bogey

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As much as I generally speaking love the concept - it's in moments like this that I'm dreading the future of our European socialised healthcare.
 
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GreyHorace

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Okay. Seriously speaking. To any medical experts here, is this scientifically possible?

I'm genuinely curious. Because everything I've learned from basic human biology says that a womb transplant can't magically give you the ability to bear children.
 
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Okay. Seriously speaking. To any medical experts here, is this scientifically possible?

I'm genuinely curious. Because everything I've learned from basic human biology says that a womb transplant can't magically give you the ability to bear children.
It’s just as possible as brain transplants, which a lot of Twitter posters desperately need.
 

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Okay. Seriously speaking. To any medical experts here, is this scientifically possible?

I'm genuinely curious. Because everything I've learned from basic human biology says that a womb transplant can't magically give you the ability to bear children.
It's possible and it has been successfully performed.

 
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Yoda

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The far left is going to inadvertently force an authoritarian theocracy into existence at this rate.
I don't think there is anything Inadvertent about it anymore. It's a religion... it just doesn't have a supernatural deity like the old ones.
 

niilokin

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It's possible and it has been successfully performed.

He was a woman to man transgender and had a womb naturally.
 

#Phonepunk#

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Let’s see if you guys can finally topple God. The left says they are all about science so let’s see some scientists pull this off. Then maybe I will start to believe them when they say there is no difference.
 
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I'm fine with it, long as it isn't paid for with American taxes. Cyberpunk 2020, people. Just a matter of time before women seeking to climb the corporate ladder get testicle transplant surgery. Talk about having your cake and eating it too. Maybe that's the wrong proverb.
 

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I see no reason "should be allowed to" is a problem. Doesnt mean its a good idea, but I have no issue with people doing what they want so long as its not forced on anyone. I think alot of research and things "should be" allowed, but it doesnt always mean its a good idea lol.

But it should absolutely not be covered under any medical insurance or government subsidies. You want it? Save up and pay for it. Just like I want a 67 Stag Fastback.
 
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Riven326

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I see no reason "should be allowed to" is a problem. Doesnt mean its a good idea, but I have no issue with people doing what they want so long as its not forced on anyone. I think alot of research and things "should be" allowed, but it doesnt always mean its a good idea lol.

But it should absolutely not be covered under any medical insurance or government subsidies. You want it? Save up and pay for it. Just like I want a 67 Stag Fastback.
Oh, please. You know full well they'll pay for it as soon as they get called transphobic.
 
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Have there been any studies on the children of transgender parents? I can't imagine how fucked up in the head I would be if my parents were both transgender.

Like imagine your dad being your mom. Because she was originally a woman who had a sexual reassignment surgery to become a man but was still able to become pregnant because she had intact ovaries and a womb. So while still being your dad, she's your mom at the same time? Like what the fuck.

Edit: or actually not sure if that example would work because I guess if they had surgery they would have removed the vagina/womb and used the skin to create a penis? So in that case pregnancy would be impossible. But for woman who transitions to a man using hormone therapy, they can just stop taking testosterone for a few months and get pregnant.
 
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Okay. Seriously speaking. To any medical experts here, is this scientifically possible?

I'm genuinely curious. Because everything I've learned from basic human biology says that a womb transplant can't magically give you the ability to bear children.
I'm not a doctor but I'm well versed in biology, especially female, being one. They could technically put the organ in, but it's not going to function, there's no equivocal connectors in the male body. They're hips are not designed to bare children. In addition to this, genetically speaking the body wouldn't know what to do with the organ either, DNA dictates how your body functions. You can take all the hormones you want, but you cannot change your genetics so your body does what you want with them. It would also be incredibly unsafe, transplants are rejected by the body, no matter how close the donors are genetically, they'd have to take immunosuppressants which isn't conductive to a healthy pregnancy.

Also most female organ donors die far past menopause, the womb would be useless in most cases.
 

TheMan

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That's the way the Nazis thought, too. Do you also believe in sterilizing undesirables?
what in the world are you babbling about? How are you drawing a line between transplants (most likely coming from a cadaver, in theory, or hell since this is all make believe then maybe even lab grown) and forcible sterilization? That's not even a rational connection.
 

Riven326

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what in the world are you babbling about? How are you drawing a line between transplants (most likely coming from a cadaver, in theory, or hell since this is all make believe then maybe even lab grown) and forcible sterilization? That's not even a rational connection.
Where do you draw the line? If we can do it scientifically, why not? Is that not what you said? I'm only following that logic to it's ultimate conclusion.
 

TheMan

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Where do you draw the line? If we can do it scientifically, why not? Is that not what you said? I'm only following that logic to it's ultimate conclusion.
Helping people bring life into this world is a completely different thing than forcing people to undergo sterilization. You are a troll and your conclusion isn't actually logical. peace out.
 

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I don't think there is anything Inadvertent about it anymore. It's a religion... it just doesn't have a supernatural deity like the old ones.
Oh, I know what they are and agree. I mean when the pendulum swings and they lose.
 

autoduelist

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I see no reason "should be allowed to" is a problem. Doesnt mean its a good idea, but I have no issue with people doing what they want so long as its not forced on anyone. I think alot of research and things "should be" allowed, but it doesnt always mean its a good idea lol.

But it should absolutely not be covered under any medical insurance or government subsidies. You want it? Save up and pay for it. Just like I want a 67 Stag Fastback.
They already argue 'abortion is healthcare'and 'healthcare should be free' which is a sideways way of advancing the eugenic elimination of poor minorities on the tax payer dime. It is inevitable they will eventually want this covered as well - just look at sex change operations being covered by the Pentagon and prison system.
 

MrRogers

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Calling it now, in the near or far future, when white women come of age, they will be forced to donate their wombs to POC trannies to offset their privilege and original sin.
 
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cryptoadam

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And the "women" wouldn't be able to give birth, so they would end up just cutting open the womb. They aren't going to shit or piss this baby out.

Its like a 9 month back pack for shits and giggles. There are plenty of kids for adoption, or how about you save an aborted fetus instead.
 

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It is an interesting surgical problem. Are there suitable arteries and veins to graft to the uterus. Is there space to insert it (I guess if the prostate is reduced/removed)? Without transplanting the ovaries the man couldn't conceive but even then they would belong to the donor. A careful hormonal cycle would have to be instilled to prevent cancer, unopposed estrogen is bad for a uterus. Sperm from the man could be banked and used on a donated egg and then implanted, but I'm not sure a man would under go all the necessary pregnancy changes like adjusting blood volume, coagulation factors, mineral levels, etc for healthy fetal development. Not to mention the public symphsys wont widen so the man would be dependent on a c-section, no trial of labor possible (unless delivery is induced very early).

Overall I think this would be extremely hazardous.