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Trump: Black people built America

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He always hides behind science or " science" for why he thinks diversity is trash...
By the way, I forgot to address this part, but even without science, my core belief stays the same.

If you believe in freedom of speech, then you must or should also believe in freedom of opinion. With modern day diversity, there is clearly a war against "freedom of thought".

Not all opinions are accepted and thus there is no actual diversity when it comes to what opinions people are allowed to express.

If you really support diversity, it must mean you should support beliefs that even you disagree with. No censorship or censoring other people's ideas because you consider their ideas "scary" or "controversial".

But that is not what is happening in the real world. A real example recently, there was a political debate on TV recently where one candidate (Maxime Bernier) wanted to have a discussion about immigration in Canada. One of his opponents (Jagmeet Singh) explicitly said that any attempt at downplaying immigration is "HATE SPEECH". There was no reason given. All other beliefs are allowed, but there is no "diversity of opinion" when it comes to immigration.

I do not wish to support such hypocrisy. I do not need science to tell me why diversity is flawed. I already see it with my eyes that freedom of speech will clearly be thrown under the bus, if there are enough people on the other side who see having a different opinion as being an actual threat.

You can even watch it for yourself. Starting at :20 seconds.

 
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There is real data from my country that clearly show immigration patterns are based around similar ethnic groups moving or wanting to live next to each other. None of which has ever been an influence by the state.

Now, could the early histories of Canada/U.S have created some of these enclaves based off state policies or forced discrimination? Sure. But is this the explanation why MILLIONS of people who move here continue to want to live next to each other and not go live where they are the minority? No.


Quebec itself was founded as a colony by the French and once the British gained control of the area, their rights were immediately under attack. I do not blame them for wanting to stay together since if they did leave Quebec for the rest of Canada, who was going to represent them?


Do Deaf people share a common culture that they wish to pass onto the next generation and wish to protect? Can they still participate in society if they don't live around other deaf people?
Also, Deaf clubs/gatherings of deaf people exist.
I'm on my way to work but I'm going to guess you didn't know I am deaf. The language barrier for deaf people is real! Yet they live in communities with hearing people all the time. There's no enclave of deaf physical communities. Hearing people don't normally associate with deaf people because if the language barrier.

And yes, there ARE deaf clubs and gatherings. No hate against hearing people is preached but fellowship and even outreach (those who want to learn sign language and about deaf culture). Yes, deafies want to pass along their culture to the next generation (not always born deaf)... My son is hearing and has been signing since he was a baby. He's been around every group of people that are in GA and MS. He gets along with everyone, as it should be.

I'll get to your other points later once I get some time.
 
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I'm on my way to work but I'm going to guess you didn't know I am deaf. The language barrier for deaf people is real! Yet they live in communities with hearing people all the time. There's no enclave of deaf physical communities. Hearing people don't normally associate with deaf people because if the language barrier.

And yes, there ARE deaf clubs and gatherings. No hate against hearing people is preached but fellowship and even outreach (those who want to learn sign language and about deaf culture). Yes, deafies want to pass along their culture to the next generation (not always born deaf)... My son is hearing and has been signing since he was a baby. He's been around every group of people that are in GA and MS. He gets along with everyone, as it should be.

I'll get to your other points later once I get some time.
It is my understanding that for Deafness, the desire to be around other Deaf people may not be as strong as ethnic groups who do prefer to be in contact with each other.
I would liken it to religion where various church members could be just as scattered throughout a country without having to physically live next to each other, even though there is still a desire for them to eventually congregate at the same church.

But this in no way contradicts what I'm saying that MILLIONS of people are making the deliberate effort to live in ethnic enclaves that resemble themselves. All this proves is that ethnic bonds are indeed stronger than religious or even health impairments.
 
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Right, I forgot, you think race and culture are linked and that people inherit culture from genes or something to that effect?
I can't really respond to that honestly. I disagree with conflating culture and race and we'd end up talking pass each other.

I'm not sure how diversity doesn't work though. All you really need is a something that unifies the people and that they can rally around, like love for their country, culture, religion etc. We are capable of putting differences aside and coming together for something that we love.
 
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It doesn't work primarily due to the central evolutionary strategy throughout all of history being Ethnocentrism, regardless of how enlightened and above it we feel it's in our genes to favor, not only our progeny who share a half copy of our genes, but also those who are more genetically similar, outwardly or otherwise.(this is just what I would ascribe the reasons to, I don't think you can socially engineer Diverse communities to tolerate each other, so let some of the data speak for itself)
Any study I've ever seen related to diversity has come up with negative social implications despite the intent of the researchers originally searching for positive justifications. Any example if diversity in history hasn't exactly gone well either. To name a few:
Putnam's study
The Importance of setting Boundaries for Peaceful Coexistence
The (In)compatibility of Diversity and Sense of Community
This study is more to reinforce my first statement that we're evolved to be ethnocentric in nature, study is about the connection between oxytocin and ethnocentrism.(also "pnas" is hilarious to me)
 

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Your statement isn't controversial, just very ignorant if you think the only contributions black people had to America was manual labor.

You need to educate yourself on African American history of inventions & advancements in: science, technology, agriculture, medicine, etc. For examples, here's an article of: "14 Black Inventors You Probably Didn’t Know About", that collectively have hundreds of inventions/patents between them:


and even if it was true its interesting that they "invented" these things in America and not in africa....
 

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Facts are facts, i don't care where it comes from. I'm not white and im not a racist. But i am a realist.
 

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lol "he will not divide us"

Lots of people willingly choosing to be divided. I can't sympathize when you're punching your own face with your own fist.
 

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That whole site looks like an extension of StormFront or the KKK. Anything to discredit black, brown and other non-white peoples.

"It's not illegal to be white... Yet"?

I wouldn't take anything you post Seriously after this.
From the site you linked to TeamGhobad TeamGhobad ...

"Nigger Owner's Manual"

"Nigger jokes"

I guess we can see why you've pushed your narrative so hard in this thread.


You’ve yet to address the relevant content.

There are many dubious claims that black people invented things, and this site posts some (equally-dubious imo) alternate origins for these inventions. Wouldn’t it be better to disprove even one of the claims made rather than just deflect?

Like, you didn’t even question the fact that less than half of the claims have sources and that said sources are old, hard to find, and sometimes are only tangentially linked to the claim made.

You were only looking for a reason not to address the argument.
 

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You’ve yet to address the relevant content.

There are many dubious claims that black people invented things, and this site posts some (equally-dubious imo) alternate origins for these inventions. Wouldn’t it be better to disprove even one of the claims made rather than just deflect?

Like, you didn’t even question the fact that less than half of the claims have sources and that said sources are old, hard to find, and sometimes are only tangentially linked to the claim made.

You were only looking for a reason not to address the argument.
I'm sorry but when you share a white supremacist website that has N-word jokes and an N-word owners manual and you've been doing nothing but downplaying the contributions of African Americans in relation to building this country, I didn't even HAVE to look. It was right there! And he provided the link! LOOKING for something would imply I would have to dig to find what I was looking for... I wasn't looking for ANYTHING yet he brought it front and center each time... ESPECIALLY the link.

He's not white but he certainly has an anti-black bent.


I can dispute or attempt to dispute every link in that despicable site... And I will when I have time. I'm on my last break right now and I won't be off until 10:00pm EST at the earliest.
 

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Facts are facts, i don't care where it comes from. I'm not white and im not a racist. But i am a realist.
A "race realist"....where have I heard this before? 🤣

"I'm not racist. I just think non whites are lesser people who have never contributed to the country."
 

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Right, I forgot, you think race and culture are linked and that people inherit culture from genes or something to that effect?
I can't really respond to that honestly. I disagree with conflating culture and race and we'd end up talking pass each other.
You don't have to disagree, you just have to acknowledge history and reality.
Who invented Native American culture? Who invented British culture? Who invented Chinese culture?

There is an undeniable truth that before mass immigration IT WAS PEOPLE WHO WERE CONNECTED TO A CULTURE FIRST, NOT VICE VERSA.
If it was not people who first came up with culture (having been isolated from other continents for thousands of years) then who else did, and why would they do this?

Whether or not the argument could go into genes, the point still remains, people and culture came first before mass immigration (from all over the world) did.

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I'm not sure how diversity doesn't work though. All you really need is a something that unifies the people and that they can rally around, like love for their country, culture, religion etc. We are capable of putting differences aside and coming together for something that we love.
And when that culture revolves around speaking Spanish in an English majority country, who is going to rally around that? Or what about Islam in a country that is majority Christian/Atheist or Judaism?

You cannot make cultures 50:50. There will always be 51:49 or it's war.

Especially in a democracy where votes are literally based around proportionately. There are literal group patterns based around race, but there is no unity between them.




Now you could make an argument that Republicans hate "X" or Democrats hate "X" but the fact remains, diversity remains an oxymoron at every level of society because you cannot represent every group's interests equally.

For example, I already touched upon wealth inequality. If one group disproportionately makes less wealth than the majority, but another group also makes disproportionately MORE wealth than the majority, then who exactly are the majority population suppose to vote for? Voting for wealth redistribution or tax cuts is going to fuck over either side, you can't just be "diverse" and vote for someone that wont have to make a choice and say "I'm sorry, but we cannot do both tax cuts and share the wealth equally".
 
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For example, I already touched upon wealth inequality. If one group disproportionately makes less wealth than the majority, but another group also makes disproportionately MORE wealth than the majority, then who exactly are the majority population suppose to vote for? Voting for wealth redistribution or tax cuts is going to fuck over either side, you can't just be "diverse" and vote for someone that wont have to make a choice and say "I'm sorry, but we cannot do both tax cuts and share the wealth equally".
The funny thing about wealth and wage bickering is the fact people are also myopic in perspective.

If I make $100,000 Cdn, my peer in the US probably makes about the same but in US dollars. Someone working in the UK is probably making $100,000 pounds. But if you convert all the currencies, I get fucked with canuck bucks.

As for your scenario of which side should be picked, of course the side that has more gets picked on the most. Nothing makes poorer people feel better than knowing they just grabbed some tax cash off a guy driving a Mercedes.

Envious jealous fucks. Mostly bottom feeders straddling the line of living pay cheque to pay cheque.

It's one of those things people are ingrained with, not a conditioned thought. Some people just don't like seeing rich people have big homes and nice cars. Some other people don't give a shit and live with what they got and earned, and doesn't care that Bob has a Jaguar, while he drives a rusty Accord.

It's like when I got my first real office job, lived pay cheque to pay cheque trying to pay for everything and being the lowest rank scrub at work for years. Be happy with what you got.... even if it's furnishing the home with shitty Ikea tables and matching bed I put together with an allen key that didn't even have space for a boxspring so I can save a few hundred bucks. The Ikea mattress was $300, which has to be among the bottom of the barrel in quality. But who cares if everyone else has a better job and the director drove a BMW.

But there's going to be some assholes who want things evened out though they don't deserve it.
 
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and even if it was true its interesting that they "invented" these things in America and not in africa....
No wonder why Democrats don't need to work for African American votes, Republicans do all the leg work for them, and cut Trumps legs underneath him when he tries to get their votes. You just can't set aside your emotions can you.
 
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No wonder why Democrats don't need to work for African American votes, Republicans do all the leg work for them, and cut Trumps legs underneath him when he tries to get their votes. You just can't set aside your emotions can you.
Reminder that Hillary Clinton once called her audience "super predators" yet still scored 91% of the black vote according to my graph.

Further proving my point. Votes are never based on "who offended who", it's based on what the group interests want.
 
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Reminder that Hillary Clinton once called her audience "super predators" yet still scored 91% of the black vote according to my graph.

Further proving my point. Votes are never based on "who offended who", it's based on what the group interests want.
Republicans do a poor job of making black people feel welcome to the party in part because racist assholes snipe their efforts at every turn and ruin their image. Imagine coming into the party and being greeted by JordaN. What a pretty sight, that's going to do a lot of damage.
 

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Republicans do a poor job of making black people feel welcome to the party in part because racist assholes snipe their efforts at every turn and ruin their image. Imagine coming into the party and being greeted by JordaN. What a pretty sight, that's going to do a lot of damage.
Yeah, I could see people getting mad if I brought up cities run by Demcorats have the highest murder rate and I wish to do something about it rather than blame police or "systematic racism"....

But alas, people would rather vote for the party that hides such facts from you because it's makes you feel good inside!

I've said it before but I've noticed that people only use the word "racism" to run away from criticism/responsibility. Take away the R-word, and you would have nothing left. Nothing to respond to.
 
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Yeah, I could see people getting mad if I brought up cities run by Demcorats have the highest murder rate and I wish to do something about it rather than blame police or "systematic racism"....

But alas, people would rather vote for the party that hides such facts from you because it's makes you feel good inside!
I hate to argue for liberals, but violent crime makes up a teeny tiny percentage of the people living in the city, regardless of the city. The most liberal cities don't have the highest crime rates. St. Louis isn't exactly a liberal mecca compared to Austin Texas. Violent crime has to do with economics, and elite liberals are massive classists anyway.

So in short, you don't have anything to talk about but lollipops and ash trays over hidden facts. If you want hidden facts, you should be targeting economics.
 
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I hate to argue for liberals, but violent crime makes up a teeny tiny percentage of the people living in the city, regardless of the city.
Yet crime is big enough to have an impact on local business.
If your average restaurant has to be hidden behind bullet proof glass, I would say that's an epidemic.




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The most liberal cities don't have the highest crime rates. .
The cities with the highest murder rates PER CAPITA have a D next to their name.

All of them. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.



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Violent crime has to do with economics,
LOL

Well I see it as one of two things then:

1. Socialist policies of wealth redistribution are thus A COMPLETE FAILURE and creates a self perpetuating cycle of low income and crime
2. Something else

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So in short, you don't have anything to talk about but lollipops and ash trays over hidden facts. If you want hidden facts, you should be targeting economics.
"Just give people money and they'll stop doing crime!"
 
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not just black people, but white people, asian people, hispanic people

that shit snowballed baby

fucken entire globe built that shit

it is still being built
 
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Yet crime is big enough to have an impact on local business.
If your average restaurant has to be hidden behind bullet proof glass, I would say that's an epidemic.
Garbage.

The cities with the highest murder rates PER CAPITA have a D next to their name.

All of them. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Those aren't exactly very liberal cities compared to Austin, SF, LA, NY, Portland, etc. Memphis is not all that liberal culturally, in fact it's flooded with conservatives. Just like with all major cities not many people commit violent crime. It's no secret that there are more liberals than conservatives in cities.


LOL

Well I see it as one of two things then:

1. Socialist policies of wealth redistribution are thus A COMPLETE FAILURE and creates a self perpetuating cycle of low income and crime
2. Something else
I didn't say any of that. Just that "need" is a major factor in driving crime.

"Just give people money and they'll stop doing crime!"
I didn't say anything about that or give a solution.
 
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I hate to argue for liberals, but violent crime makes up a teeny tiny percentage of the people living in the city, regardless of the city. The most liberal cities don't have the highest crime rates. St. Louis isn't exactly a liberal mecca compared to Austin Texas. Violent crime has to do with economics, and elite liberals are massive classists anyway.

So in short, you don't have anything to talk about but lollipops and ash trays over hidden facts. If you want hidden facts, you should be targeting economics.
Criminologist disagree that 'economics' is the cause of violent crime. Poor people aren't more violent you have many very poor areas that don't have absurd violent crime.
 

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Those aren't exactly very liberal cities compared to Austin, SF, LA, NY, Portland, etc. Memphis is not all that liberal culturally, in fact it's flooded with conservatives. Just like with all major cities not many people commit violent crime. It's no secret that there are more liberals than conservatives in cities.
Everyone, take a look at this post by Vice.

Now look at what I said a few posts ago,


I've said it before but I've noticed that people only use the word "racism" to run away from criticism/responsibility. Take away the R-word, and you would have nothing left. Nothing to respond to.
I just gave 10 examples of the most murderous cities in the U.S per capita and they all vote Democrat, and yet the answer I'm told is "but they're not liberal enough! The crime isn't that bad! It's because of the money!"

There is no reasoning with these people.
 
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Criminologist disagree that 'economics' is the cause of violent crime. Poor people aren't more violent you have many very poor areas that don't have absurd violent crime.
Not the lone cause, but there's a sky high correlation. Social conditions are a big factor. Genetics not so much.

Everyone, take a look at this post by Vice.

Now look at what I said a few posts ago,


I just gave 10 examples of the most murderous cities in the U.S and they all vote Democrat, and yet the answer I'm told is "but they're not liberal enough! The crime isn't that bad! It's because of the money!"

There is no reasoning with these people.
Who cares that a Democrat sits at the helm of a higher murder city? There is no big city in the US that is Republican, not even Mesa Arizona, Miami or San Diego. The lowest crime big cities are all blue too. The highest, the lowest, and the middlest are blue.

99% of the population don't commit a violent crime. A city like Chicago and NY uses both conservative and liberal crime fighting strategies. So I don't know what point you're trying to make.
 
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Yeah, I could see people getting mad if I brought up cities run by Demcorats have the highest murder rate and I wish to do something about it rather than blame police or "systematic racism"....

But alas, people would rather vote for the party that hides such facts from you because it's makes you feel good inside!

I've said it before but I've noticed that people only use the word "racism" to run away from criticism/responsibility. Take away the R-word, and you would have nothing left. Nothing to respond to.
I don't think that's what he's hinting at, Jordan.
 

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Not the lone cause, but there's a sky high correlation. Social conditions are a big factor. Genetics not so much.



Who cares that a Democrat sits at the helm of a higher murder city? There is no big city in the US that is Republican, not even Mesa Arizona, Miami or San Diego. The lowest crime big cities are all blue too. The highest, the lowest, and the middlest are blue.

99% of the population don't commit a violent crime. A city like Chicago and NY uses both conservative and liberal crime fighting strategies. So I don't know what point you're trying to make.
Social conditions, yes, mainly a stable family unit. Economics not so much.
 

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"Not so much". Dead, completely dead wrong.
The idea that if you are poor you are more violent isn't true. Anti-social behavior doesn't correlate based on economics. If that were the case during economic down turns we would see a raise in violent crime. A single parent household is a far more likely indicator.
 
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A single parent household is a far more likely indicator.
I'm tired of these moral culture wars. Now you may not be advocating for this, but the forced strict father model is a relic, and people need to move on from blaming single mothers for everything.

In the same way that you mentioned that although we know that the poor are more likely to commit crime, crime has been down while poverty was on the rise during the last recession, the same can be said about single mothers.

Again, we know that barely any kids from single parent families produce criminals. Did you know that the younger the age a mother has a child, the more likely they are to become a criminal? And yet, it's still rare for that to happen. Violent criminals are concentrated amongst specific populations, and poverty is consistent with that. Single parent data isn't recorded to that level, and you can't separate it from poverty anyway (single parent households are more suspectible to poverty). You do not have the data to say that single parent families are the cause of violent criminals.
 
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I'm tired of these moral culture wars. Now you may not be advocating for this, but the forced strict father model is a relic, and people need to move on from blaming single mothers for everything.

In the same way that you mentioned that although we know that the poor are more likely to commit crime, crime has been down while poverty was on the rise during the last recession, the same can be said about single mothers.

Again, we know that barely any kids from single parent families produce criminals. Did you know that the younger the age a mother has a child, the more likely they are to become a criminal? And yet, it's still rare for that to happen. Violent criminals are concentrated amongst specific populations, and poverty is consistent with that. Single parent data isn't recorded to that level, and you can't separate it from poverty anyway (single parent households are more suspectible to poverty). You do not have the data to say that single parent families are the cause of violent criminals.
Being raised in a household with a mother and father is an indicator for a child's success that's not controversial.
 

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Memphis is not all that liberal culturally, in fact it's flooded with conservatives.
Memphis is quite liberal, dont know how you could say otherwise. Hillary had almost double the vote that Trump got in Memphis. Shelby County has voted Dem in the last 5 elections also.
 
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The major metro areas I've been to the most in life are:

1. Toronto (live here)
2. Montreal
3. Buffalo
4. Detroit
5. Vancouver

For all you people who have never been to this area of North America (or west coast Vancouver), let me just say that the only city out of this list that I've seen that HAS bullet proof counters at check out is Detroit. Never been to a Subway Sandwich in Detroit, but been to my share of gas stations and variety stores, and you might see these kinds of contraptions. Go there to buy snacks and drinks and it's like you are at the airport getting processed by a guard. Totally retarded.

On the plus side, drive north to Auburn Hills to watch a Pistons game and it's fine.

As for Detroit, if you're going to hang out there, focus on the downtown touristy area with the stadiums and decent sports pubs and restaurants. But don't stray too far outside this core area.

I did a reverse image search and see that image is from Chicago. I've been there a handful of times. But the first time I was there about 20 years ago it was to go to a Blackhawks game. It was a fun trip, but weird in two instances.

1. We were downtown and wanted to just walk the city a bit before game time and then walk to the arena, so we saw on the map to head west along Madison Ave. We asked some locals coming out of office buildings just to make sure we are going the right way and even these suit and tie guys were like..... "you really want to walk there.... I'd take a cab". Not because it was a long walk. But because it was sketchy.

2. We took the subway one night to go somewhere..... I think(?) to some trendy spot at Rush/Division. On one hand, wow. It seems automated. You buy these cards/tickets and use it to get in. The stations didn't even have manned booths. Ok, cool. I don't know if it's better now, but back then (NO JOKE), every like 5 subway cars had a cop with a humongous guard dog. All they did was stand there in each car making sure nothing stupid happens. We were like...... WTF?

Never seen a guard ever patrol any subway car in Toronto/Montreal subways or Vancouver skytrain.
 
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I'm tired of these moral culture wars. Now you may not be advocating for this, but the forced strict father model is a relic, and people need to move on from blaming single mothers for everything.

In the same way that you mentioned that although we know that the poor are more likely to commit crime, crime has been down while poverty was on the rise during the last recession, the same can be said about single mothers.
I have a challenge for you. Can you show me what the level of crime was like in America in the 1950s?

In particular, the famous cities I posted that are now Democrat, but in the past, voted Republican (i.e Detroit or Baltimore)?
 

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A "race realist"....where have I heard this before? 🤣

"I'm not racist. I just think non whites are lesser people who have never contributed to the country."
i never said they didn't contribute but it has not been to the extent of white people and they did not build america. sure black and brown people can accomplish great things under the white mans roof.
 

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Who cares that a Democrat sits at the helm of a higher murder city?
It tells me Democrats are fine letting their cities run rampant with violent crime that people will still vote for them regardless of the consequences of their socialist policies.

There is no big city in the US that is Republican, not even Mesa Arizona, Miami or San Diego. The lowest crime big cities are all blue too. The highest, the lowest, and the middlest are blue.
This is why I always use per capita numbers. You can compare Republican cities with that of Democrats when you look at the rate of violent crime relative to if the populations were similar (i.e crime per 100,000 people for example).

99% of the population don't commit a violent crime.
Doesn't matter. No one in their right mind would call these cities are safe, even if the majority aren't actively killing other people.

All I care about is responsiblity, and I don't believe in the alternate solution of either having to live in fear with bullet proof glasses, or blaming the"system" for why people use economics as an excuse to commit mass murder every weekend.
 
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All I care about is responsiblity, and I don't believe in the alternate solution of either having to live in fear with bullet proof glasses, or blaming the"system" for why people use economics as an excuse to commit mass murder every weekend.
Anyone who thinks buying lunch at Subway is normal by talking to a sandwich maker through a bullet proof glass speaker hole (along with other stores with similar armour) lives in a pretty shitty area.

I can see a bank or jewelry store amping up security guards and having the safe behind special security doors, but a fucking meatball sandwich place?

People that desperate for a cash register with $40 I guess.
 
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You know that's a racist statement, right?
If you're trying to extrapolate from my post that I am saying only white people speak lowly of non-whites, then you are sorely mistaken. There are white people who think lowly of non-whites, but that isn't the majority of white people. And there are non-whites who think lowly of other non-whites and even of their own "race".
 
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If you're trying to extrapolate from my post that I am saying only white people speak lowly of non-whites, then you are sorely mistaken. There are white people who think lowly of non-whites, but that isn't the majority of white people. And there are non-whites who think lowly of other non-whites and even of their own "race".
I'm taking your post as it was written and by doing The Test.

This is not the first time I've called you out for your nonchalant racism.
It's not about justifying yourself when called out for it, it's the blithe way you present it in the first place.
And your justification, such as it is, is just weak doubling down.

Racism isn't a sliding scale. And pointing at skin-colour is the very worst way to justify your remarks in such context. "X said it first" is the next worst way to justify such remarks.

You can be as racist as you like, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm just telling you what it is that you're doing.
 
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Trump was speaking to the young black leadership summit. Why would he be talking about Irish people? Bu bu but he is pandering. No shit. So does every single politician at (insert racial/ethnic/religious) leadership summit. People who get upset about benign things Trump does that literally every politician who has ever existed has done and is something baked into politics need help.
 
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I'm taking your post as it was written and by doing The Test.

This is not the first time I've called you out for your nonchalant racism.
It's not about justifying yourself when called out for it, it's the blithe way you present it in the first place.
And your justification, such as it is, is just weak doubling down.

Racism isn't a sliding scale. And pointing at skin-colour is the very worst way to justify your remarks in such context. "X said it first" is the next worst way to justify such remarks.

You can be as racist as you like, I'm not telling you what to do.
I'm just telling you what it is that you're doing.
You're not making sense in regard to my posts vs his. You call out my "racism" but won't call his out?

And my comments are STILL not racist. I don't see myself as superior to any other "race". I don't hate and I don't look down on anyone else based on their skin color.

You're projecting HARD!