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No I just lurked.


Nope not banned. I post on both forums.
Can I ask why you don't use your old account? Are you one of those who asked for a ban or even worse posted porn before you left? And then subsequently came back?

Genuinely curious because I don't buy the lurker comment
 
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not a Trump guy by any stretch though i think the "Breaking News: Trump SUCKS" stuff isn't conducive to anything

but ever since Bush that's been how it is, he's not your guy you'll take a hearty shit on him at at every chance. i shrugged it off with Bush because he was ostensibly terrible but then Obama was the worst person in the world for golfing and bowing to a japanese prime minister, or whatever. it's amplified with Trump for obvious reasons but i think this is just how it's going to be going forward
 

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not a Trump guy by any stretch though i think the "Breaking News: Trump SUCKS" stuff isn't conducive to anything

but ever since Bush that's been how it is, he's not your guy you'll take a hearty shit on him at at every chance. i shrugged it off with Bush because he was ostensibly terrible but then Obama was the worst person in the world for golfing and bowing to a japanese prime minister, or whatever. it's amplified with Trump for obvious reasons but i think this is just how it's going to be going forward
US politics has become what the gamer forum was a complete shit hole of fan boys ! the only difference is replacing Sony /MS for DEms/Republicans
 
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Can I ask why you don't use your old account? Are you one of those who asked for a ban or even worse posted porn before you left? And then subsequently came back?

Genuinely curious because I don't buy the lurker comment
I never had an account. I lurked for couple of years because a friend was a member. Thats the truth. If you don't believe me then thats fine. Not really my problem. Finally decided to make an account because this place was becoming a cesspool. Felt like it needed all the rational voices it could get.
 

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You know what, there's a perfectly fine piece of opinion in your post somewhere. And that's the thing; It appears to be wrapped into a unnecessary condescending and sarcastic tone, and I don't really get why it has to. Why is it so difficult to do political discourse without "the tone"? It would be interesting to hear what your reasoning is for adding negatives which contributes to mask a valid opinion rather than emphasize it.

Disclaimer: Not claiming that I'm perfect, perhaps my post is in some way directed at myself as well.
That's a respectable take. Sorry to see the response just doubled down, though.

I can't begin to assume the motivations for the majority of Trump voters. I'm sure there was plenty of "anyone but her / anyone but him" that motivated both sides of the aisle. I only know a few Trump voters, and when it came down to it, they expressed more concern for the next two or three supreme court justices more than any other aspect of a Trump presidency. They were all reluctant Trump voters, and none of them supported him in the primaries.
 

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The Scott Adams talk on TDS is worth watching but just like PTSD you can't blame the victims. They have been ruthlessly exploited by the DNC and media to cause this state of mania.

When I see posts that include any of these terms I instantly think TDS.
References to fucking Ivanka
Pussy grabbing
He is a racist
He is sexist

Help spotting those inflicted :
In threads where nothing related to these is being discussed. If you have you keep telling us he is racist and point it out every time you speak on any subject related or not that is not normal behaviour.

When discussing the politics of your country without knowing one thing about any policy other than if Trump supports it you are against it. Of course it does not matter if Obama did the same exact thing but now Trump is doing it its terrible

And finally not being able to add any relevent facts or policy but ad hominem attacks with irrelevant emotional pleas.

Please come here for support instead of wasting your time trying to convince others you are ok..there is another whole forum where you can circle jerk to your fantasies.
So you want to create a safe space for yourself so you don't have to hear opinions you don't agree with?
 

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So you want to create a safe space for yourself so you don't have to hear opinions you don't agree with?
where do you get that from?

This is a place where people who cannot help themselves get help. TDS as I explained is like PTSD - why would someone not suffering from PTSD need a safe space? The only way to do this will be slowly
 
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I am happy to hear anything this is a anonymous internet forum - dont think you are someone special . I dont. Its just that if people are constantly repeating their derangement surely you want to help your community and help those afflicted - you seem only to be interested in stoking your ego with internet points. Do you have anything of actual substance to add? If every time I hear Obama mentioned its prefaces with, the Muslim Half White Barrack Hussein Obama, I would be pissed off and tell the person that its factually correct but there are coming from an bigoted view. The same here, there is no reason to talk about incest, how he is a known racist (thats the best one!) and hates women when the subject is NATO! Do you think this is cool and you want to read posts with partisan poison in every other sentence that only is stupid, misleading but straight up wrong! Im sure there could be another forum online to help with that, but I like this forum.
 
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Alfadawg

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It's tough when you find out your hero is a fraud.

It's even tougher when your hero is Donald Trump.

LMAO
 

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I am happy to hear anything this is a anonymous internet forum - dont think you are someone special . I dont. Its just that if people are constantly repeating their deranged symptomatic surely you want to help your community and help those afflicted - you seem only to be interested in stoking your ego with internet points. Do you have anything of actual substance to add?
Honestly, you’re just baiting at this point. I find NeverTrumpers as eyerollingly cringeworthy as anyone, but I don’t think there’s anything productive coming from this.
 

Turnt

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where do you get that from?

This is a place where people who cannot help themselves get help. TDS as I explained is like PTSD - why would someone not suffering from PTSD need a safe space? The only way to do this will be slowly
Ah sorry. I misunderstood. So this is actually a very sincere and genuine thread in which you try your best to help people. The creator of Dilbert would be proud of you.
 
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Losing the intellectual battle to a true right wing Trump supporter is pretty much impossible.
Thats true. A person has to have intelligence and a desire to have an actual debate first for that to be possible. Trump supporters seem to be a bit light in that department overall. Their constant need to deflect to Obama or Hillary is proof enough of that. Thats not even mentioning their ridiculous need to keep endorsing idiotic decisions that harm the country just because it "triggers the libs"



Logic and reason be damned. As long as it makes the left mad its okay lol
 
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This thread has generated a few reports through its brief but eventful lifetime. I think it's just a light hearted way of saying let's keep the Trump threads actually about the policies and real world issues instead of littering them with the usual driveby/throwaway comments such as mentioned in the OP. For anyone reading those, it makes it difficult to actually pick out the valid for/against arguments.


While I have no stake in the argument I fail to see the problem here. Although it does seem to have generated actual discussion about a couple of policies... So if all you do have to say in any Trump thread (or any thread) really is a one line piece of rhetoric then I'm all for keeping it contained in one basket. Of course if no one is suffering from TDS 😉 then no one should be offended and the thread should quickly drop into graveyard.


There's a very fine line between levity and 'trolling'.
 

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There are some people I know that suffer from TDS. You can’t reason with them. They get emotional and hysterical at anything that might be positive for Trump. We get along great just as long as we don’t talk about Trump.

We live in Chicago. I’m always trying to steer the talks towards state politics and they fight every which way but eventually come towards the the middle or more but for some reason when Trump is involved they go extremely far to the left. Doesn’t make sense to me but now I’m just amused by all the Trump hate.


For clearity. I’m a minority that identifies as an Independent voter. Once you lived in Chicago for as long as I have you eventually start moving in that direction. Chicago politics is the most corrupt in the nation.
 

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Thats true. A person has to have intelligence and a desire to have an actual debate first for that to be possible. Trump supporters seem to be a bit light in that department overall. Their constant need to deflect to Obama or Hillary is proof enough of that. Thats not even mentioning their ridiculous need to keep endorsing idiotic decisions that harm the country just because it "triggers the libs"



Logic and reason be damned. As long as it makes the left mad its okay lol
please can you post how you are intelligent? You can pm me if you are embarrassed, I just want to know how many Masters or PHd you have and the experience. These are your criteria - you are throwing out - I wonder you must be very smart to work people intelligence out, please share with the community how this is possible. And call these 'non intellgent' people out specifically - who are you referring to? Its easy just to screech at the sky, but you seem genuine interested in an intellgenct dicussion in changing minds right?
 

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This thread has generated a few reports through its brief but eventful lifetime. I think it's just a light hearted way of saying let's keep the Trump threads actually about the policies and real world issues instead of littering them with the usual driveby/throwaway comments such as mentioned in the OP. For anyone reading those, it makes it difficult to actually pick out the valid for/against arguments.


While I have no stake in the argument I fail to see the problem here. Although it does seem to have generated actual discussion about a couple of policies... So if all you do have to say in any Trump thread (or any thread) really is a one line piece of rhetoric then I'm all for keeping it contained in one basket. Of course if no one is suffering from TDS 😉 then no one should be offended and the thread should quickly drop into graveyard.


There's a very fine line between levity and 'trolling'.
This is a perfect analysis. Unfortunately I did not expect people to attack reasonable discussion with their TDS nonsense. ITe topics is being hard to be derailed by Nobody_important, who cant hep him self he has been programmed so hard he cannot make 1 sentence without using his racist, idiots, stupid talking points!
 

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Trump is a moron and a Russian stooge.

He is destroying Obama's legacy including the economy. You're reaping the benefits of Obama's leadership right now, but in 18 months, things are going to go south. Fast.
 

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Trump is a moron and a Russian stooge.

He is destroying Obama's legacy including the economy. You're reaping the benefits of Obama's leadership right now, but in 18 months, things are going to go south. Fast.
I completely agree he is a moron? Winning the US election with half the cash and media against him, yeah a real thick cunt. Running a large organisation and having a great family , yup serious retardation their. Increasing relationship with Israel - must be some 4d chess for the Holocaust he is planning, have we heard anything about ISIS boiling, raping and beheading? Nope - what a cunt how dare he stop Islamic jihad, must be a real Islamophobic cunt. North Korea - what does this cunt think he is playing at, getting dead bodies back and hostages- they should be left to die and let Japan worry about ICMBs over their airspace. As for the economy its just a matter of time before he wrecks it, i mean we cant say WHY he will wreck it but we KNOW HE IS A MORON and will fucking reckit.

The thing is where do you get Russian stooge from? Was it not the clintosn who are friendly with Putin, paid for Russian gossip? Sold 20% of USA Uranium to Russia. I just wanted to be informed an up to date since you have some facts that I dont? Can you link to where there has been any proof Trump has been anything but cautious with Russia i.e. expelling the most diplomats, sanctions on Russia and increasing NATOs budget and deterrent against Russia. Or is this him being a moron and cant even be a stooge he is so stupid?

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Spheyr

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Trump is a moron and a Russian stooge.

He is destroying Obama's legacy including the economy. You're reaping the benefits of Obama's leadership right now, but in 18 months, things are going to go south. Fast.
Democrats blamed Bush for anything negative in Obama's presidency straight through to the end, but all the good things were Obama's doing.

Now that Trump is in office, all the bad things are Trump's doing and the good things were from Obama.
 

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We've got loads more people on these forums that will excuse anything Trump does than we have people who call him Hitler. Easily.
Do you honestly believe that? I'd like to believe you're resorting to extremes/exaggerations to get your point across, just as I'd like to believe that if Trump made life unnecessarily difficult for his most ardent supporters that even they would not excuse it. Almost everyone has a breaking point.

I'm still a lefty/liberal according to the political compass/tests out there, but my failure to trash Trump every chance I get makes me a Republican in the eyes of some of those around me even though I find some of the party's positions unacceptable/outdated. That's binary logic at play, viewing the world in black and white, good vs evil, and it's doing far more harm than good. People are dividing each other along party lines even when there's absolutely no rational explanation for it, then further complicate matters because those party affiliations have somehow become a justifiable reason for avoiding people entirely, and so the "bubbles" continue long after it was established they helped put the current president in power. It's madness.

There's a great deal of frustration about the current state of political affairs, at least from where I'm standing, and not all of it is on Trump. He isn't the cause, he's a symptom, one that happened to capitalize on the country's weaknesses and desires better than his competitors.

If you'll entertain me a minute, I can't say for sure if race relations on the ground (as opposed to social media's warped reflection of reality), for example, improved under Obama's two terms, but if they did your media did a hell of a job covering it up to bring the country a message of growing racial tensions from coast to coast. An African American gets refused entry to a Starbucks bathroom and has the cops called on him, so it apparently becomes a nationwide problem. I can't blame them for the expensive way in which they addressed the issue, it doubled as a positive public relations stunt (yeah, I'm cynical), but I've personally witnessed a white person having a very similar experience and guess what? It didn't receive any coverage, nor should it. Had I thought that situation was worth recording and it was used to contrast against the Philly Starbucks video do you think the story would have caught fire the way it did? The conversation would have shifted drastically from one about race to one about Starbucks' handling of bathroom access.

Another prime example of how the American people are being misled by their national news, take a look at "Fact #3" in Pew's "5 Facts About Crime In The US":

Public perceptions about crime in the U.S. often don’t align with the data. Opinion surveys regularly find that Americans believe crime is up nationally, even when the data show it is down. In 17 Gallup surveys conducted since 1993, at least six-in-ten Americans said there was more crime in the U.S.compared with the year before, despite the generally downward trend in national violent and property crime rates during much of that period.

Pew Research Center surveys have found a similar pattern. In a survey in late 2016, 57% of registered voters said crime in the U.S. had gotten worse since 2008, even though BJS and FBI data show that violent and property crime rates declined by double-digit percentages during that span.

While perceptions of rising crime at the national level are common, fewer Americans tend to say crime is up when asked about the local level. In 20 Gallup surveys conducted since 1996, about half of Americans or fewer said crime is up in their area compared with the year before.
The attention networks like NBC and CNN were giving to mass murders and Chicago's gang problems were seldom put into proper perspective by the reporters. Were they aiming to mislead you? Maybe, maybe not, but they'll never admit to that and the question risks deflecting from the point at hand anyway because whether it was done intentionally or irresponsibly isn't important here, what's important is that it does indeed happen, regularly, so they can pull in more eyeballs and ad revenue (re: short and sweet vs detailed and boring). That's the same media you now defend against Trump's "fake news" attacks. Like you, he resorted to an extreme to get his point across because the mainstream news certainly isn't 100% fake. Take a minute to dwell on that.

Freedom of the press is very important in a society that values its freedom, but just as you would come down hard on media outlets acting like propaganda arms for the government, you should also come down hard on those telling their viewers what/how to think - that's not their job, it's yours - and omitting vital information that adds valuable context.

Wasn't aiming to ramble on like that, but the media's incredibly poor coverage and the way it affects the public really gets my gears grinding.
 

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Do you honestly believe that? I'd like to believe you're resorting to extremes/exaggerations to get your point across, just as I'd like to believe that if Trump made life unnecessarily difficult for his most ardent supporters that even they would not excuse it. Almost everyone has a breaking point.

I'm still a lefty/liberal according to the political compass/tests out there, but my failure to trash Trump every chance I get makes me a Republican in the eyes of some of those around me even though I find some of the party's positions unacceptable/outdated. That's binary logic at play, viewing the world in black and white, good vs evil, and it's doing far more harm than good. People are dividing each other along party lines even when there's absolutely no rational explanation for it, then further complicate matters because those party affiliations have somehow become a justifiable reason for avoiding people entirely, and so the "bubbles" continue long after it was established they helped put the current president in power. It's madness.

There's a great deal of frustration about the current state of political affairs, at least from where I'm standing, and not all of it is on Trump. He isn't the cause, he's a symptom, one that happened to capitalize on the country's weaknesses and desires better than his competitors.

If you'll entertain me a minute, I can't say for sure if race relations on the ground (as opposed to social media's warped reflection of reality), for example, improved under Obama's two terms, but if they did your media did a hell of a job covering it up to bring the country a message of growing racial tensions from coast to coast. An African American gets refused entry to a Starbucks bathroom and has the cops called on him, so it apparently becomes a nationwide problem. I can't blame them for the expensive way in which they addressed the issue, it doubled as a positive public relations stunt (yeah, I'm cynical), but I've personally witnessed a white person having a very similar experience and guess what? It didn't receive any coverage, nor should it. Had I thought that situation was worth recording and it was used to contrast against the Philly Starbucks video do you think the story would have caught fire the way it did? The conversation would have shifted drastically from one about race to one about Starbucks' handling of bathroom access.

Another prime example of how the American people are being misled by their national news, take a look at "Fact #3" in Pew's "5 Facts About Crime In The US":



The attention networks like NBC and CNN were giving to mass murders and Chicago's gang problems were seldom put into proper perspective by the reporters. Were they aiming to mislead you? Maybe, maybe not, but they'll never admit to that and the question risks deflecting from the point at hand anyway because whether it was done intentionally or irresponsibly isn't important here, what's important is that it does indeed happen, regularly, so they can pull in more eyeballs and ad revenue (re: short and sweet vs detailed and boring). That's the same media you now defend against Trump's "fake news" attacks. Like you, he resorted to an extreme to get his point across because the mainstream news certainly isn't 100% fake. Take a minute to dwell on that.

Freedom of the press is very important in a society that values its freedom, but just as you would come down hard on media outlets acting like propaganda arms for the government, you should also come down hard on those telling their viewers what/how to think - that's not their job, it's yours - and omitting vital information that adds valuable context.

Wasn't aiming to ramble on like that, but the media's incredibly poor coverage and the way it affects the public really gets my gears grinding.
This is a good post.
 

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I find it a bit hard to take tone policing serious in a thread that sarcastically whines about people being negative about Trump.
You have access to a great forum here where you tcan do your part to make a good debate, and even perhaps the chance to make the world a tiny bit better. There are obviously also political opponents of yours here that are willing to talk to you in a civil manner. But you choose to focus on those who don't, whataboutism and being dismissive? This is your answer?
 

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I guess Trump supporters are not concerned about clean air and water. Then again it’s unlikely they know very much about this administrations hostility to environmental protections. Ryan Zinke is actively trying to roll back The Endangered Species Act. I guess this is all part of that “Winning” they talk so much about.
oh no I guess by the end of trump 2nd terms there wont be anymore animals on earth. Won't someone think of the * insert animal here*

Trump is a moron and a Russian stooge.

He is destroying Obama's legacy including the economy. You're reaping the benefits of Obama's leadership right now, but in 18 months, things are going to go south. Fast.
yup a total russian stoooge. A real american would have already gotten us into a war with russia

I never had an account. I lurked for couple of years because a friend was a member. Thats the truth. If you don't believe me then thats fine. Not really my problem. Finally decided to make an account because this place was becoming a cesspool. Felt like it needed all the rational voices it could get.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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I guess Trump supporters are not concerned about clean air and water. Then again it’s unlikely they know very much about this administrations hostility to environmental protections. Ryan Zinke is actively trying to roll back The Endangered Species Act. I guess this is all part of that “Winning” they talk so much about.
As everyone who spouts this runs out to the BigAg supplied dollar menus, bottomless shrimp, shops for BigAg supplied groceries at the store... while BigAg is one of the number one causes of climate change.

Eating the flesh of a cow, while petting your dog, and crying for Cecil.

#Speciesism 101.

Be honest with yourselves, it is not about the environment so much as it is about Trump doing something you can point the finger at.

ProTip: Both Sanders and Clinton have always voted for BigAg subsidiaries keeping that environmental destroying machine going. So they are every bit against the 'climate change' they peddle. ;)

And guess who mentioned cutting funding to BigAg in his primaries?

Trump did. ;)
 
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Since both his doctors were caught falsifying records, can't we reexamine him and see if he is still fit to be President?
 

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Change starts with everyone of us, so let's try to contribute in a constructive way.
Sad how Gaf has been invaded and taken over by 4chan edgelords wanking themselves senseless over Trump :(
 

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Trump is a moron and a Russian stooge.

He is destroying Obama's legacy including the economy. You're reaping the benefits of Obama's leadership right now, but in 18 months, things are going to go south. Fast.
Um. what benefits?
 

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I'm the poster that gaf needs right now, not necessarily the one it deserves.
You are not the only poster here that doesn't view Trump in a positive light. There are quite of a few of us on here.

We need individuals that can have civil conversation without verbally attacking other posters just because their opinion enrages you. Gaf needs more people like this and actually less people like you.
 

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You are not the only poster here that doesn't view Trump in a positive light. There are quite of a few of us on here.

We need individuals that can have civil conversation without verbally attacking other posters just because their opinion enrages you. Gaf needs more people like this and actually less people like you.
You might be shocked but most Trump votes or supporters also dont view him in a positive light when he fucks up but its the constant dishonesty and hypocrisy that causes people to 'defend' him not his action or policy but the virtol and unsubstantiated gossip.
 

LordPezix

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You might be shocked but most Trump votes or supporters also dont view him in a positive light when he fucks up but its the constant dishonesty and hypocrisy that causes people to 'defend' him not his action or policy but the virtol and unsubstantiated gossip.
I'm not shocked. I know this.
 

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“If a black man can be president, then any white man—no matter how fallen—can be president.” - Something only Trump could've fulfilled.

Also, if you want a "safe space" for Trump supporters, you might want to check out The Donald on reddit. This won't be that place.
 
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“If a black man can be president, then any white man—no matter how fallen—can be president.” - Something only Trump could've fulfilled.

Also, if you want a "safe space" for Trump supporters, you might want to check out The Donald on reddit. This won't be that place.
Go back to spamming "DRUMPF" on /r/politics
 

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I guess Trump supporters are not concerned about clean air and water. Then again it’s unlikely they know very much about this administrations hostility to environmental protections. Ryan Zinke is actively trying to roll back The Endangered Species Act. I guess this is all part of that “Winning” they talk so much about.
I dont like this thread as its purposely antagonistic but, this post is interesting.

I am not a Trump voter, nor supporter(I support whomever is the president as it benefits all of us if they do well)but the things he has done so far have benefited me.

To sit there and say Trump supporters are not concerned about clean air and water is disingenuous at best. Priorities may be different(economy vs environment)but to act as if anyone who supports trump hardcore is hoping for the death of all endangered species and for our air to be polluted and with the water is absurd.

There is a balance in there, and neither side has realized it yet. A happy balance of environmental protections, and economic protections.

It's really that simple. This is a pushback in the other direction. The world hasn't ended, there are no concentration camps, and WW3 hasn't started either.

The hyperbole coming from the Democrats has to stop as its actively turning voters away from them as during the craziest month I can remember in politics Trumps poll numbers actually went up. That says more then anything else anyone could ever say.

I cant even understand it really.
 

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“I want a safe space” - Said no Trump supporter ever
No, you'd be surprised. I know someone who was banned there because he didn't like Trump and posted some questions asking people to explain their reasoning. The official reason he was banned? "Concern trolling."

The right learned a lot from the left on how to silence people who disagree with them, all the while congratulating themselves about how they stopped a bad person from having a platform.

Really though, the right is just learning new tricks. They invented the authoritarian playbook of censorship, and it's only lately that the left took that ball and ran with it.