Trump Org CFO Weisselberg Granted Immunity

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This could be a raging fire, or it could be a wet match. Immunity is not always a deal that someone accepts. In many cases the person refuses to testify and the prosecutor grants immunity so that they can no longer take the 5th and refuse. Then the prosecutor finds out if they have something beneficial.
 

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One could say since it's the CFO it more than likely has to do with the campaign violation (since it deals with money). Even if he did a violation (I dont believe he did). The worse thing that would happen is a fine just like Obama. I am not reading much into this. Same for the other immunity. This has nothing to do with Russia ;)
 

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The “charity” was just a slush fund for Dirty Donald and now people are poking around its finances. Don getting elected was the worst thing that could have happened to the Trump crime family.
 

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Obama campaign failed to report 1300 donations within 48 hours. Trump campaign had similar issue with 1100 donations. Both case had nothing to do Obama and Trump personally. It was the campaign staffs' fault. The case with Cohen pleaded guilty is different, it involves Trump directly instructing his lawyer to commit a campaign finance crime. Nevertheless, it might not be an impeachable offense alone. But this might lead to something bigger.
 

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The “charity” was just a slush fund for Dirty Donald and now people are poking around its finances. Don getting elected was the worst thing that could have happened to the Trump crime family.
If you think about it, non of these people would be get caught or found guilty if Trump didn't become the president.
 

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If you think about it, non of these people would be get caught or found guilty if Trump didn't become the president.
They are all going back to that first time they heard Trump say “I have a yugely great idea for a marketing campaign” and wishing they would have responded differently.
 

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Immunity for what is the interesting part. Cohen already made a plea deal, so it's not to testify against him.
 

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Immunity for what is the interesting part. Cohen already made a plea deal, so it's not to testify against him.
Not really. The immunity was granted before the Grand Jury hearing leading to the Cohen raid - it's old.

Of course, immunity usually comes with conditions - such as telling the truth. And it's a bit interesting that it has emerged now. No idea why. Too early to tell.
 

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There was immunity given out like candy in the Hillary email investigation yet not a single person was indicted.

That was interesting.

So surprise either.
 
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Trump is complaining like a mob boss.
He literally is. He could be completely innocent but his narcissism cannot keep his mouth shut and his lawyers in control of the situation. If he gets impeached it will be by his own making. I think the prosecution has figured this out.
 
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I feel like we could have live video of Trump being escorted out of the White House in handcuffs and there would still be people saying "oh well this is nothing" or "How many times have we heard it's the end now?"



I mean come on lol
 

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He literally is. He could be completely innocent but his narcissism cannot keep his mouth shut and his lawyers in control of the situation. If he gets impeached it will be by his own making. I think the prosecution has figured this out.
Well, Trump has to keep hearing this crap 24/7.

And Obama used to whine about the media.

LOL
 

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And so the dominoes fall...



"It's not fair!"
When Trump said "it's not fair," it was talking about prosecutors threatening person after person with 10+ years in jail if they don't turn on Trump. Put any congressperson's staff and employees under that kind of pressure, and you could get sworn testimony that any given congressperson is a child molester.

I feel like we could have live video of Trump being escorted out of the White House in handcuffs and there would still be people saying "oh well this is nothing" or "How many times have we heard it's the end now?"



I mean come on lol
The latest symptom of Trump derangement syndrome is hypotheticals that project irrationality. "The last 500 times a we said a scandal was going to sink Trump we were wrong, but it's going to happen eventually, and the Trump supporters will be in denial of reality."
 

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Well, Trump has to keep hearing this crap 24/7.
That's what happens when every other thing you say is a lie. Eventually people figure it out. It's just taking roughly half the country a lot longer to figure it out than the other half.
 

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/trump-flipping-outlawed/index.html
"It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go."
Oh, so it's basically how trump has gotten away with being a rat for decades. He would know.
 
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Oh, so it's basically how trump has gotten away with being a rat for decades. He would know.
The famous saying says "you can indict a ham sandwich", about 97% of federal prosecutions get pleas under threat of stiff penalties rather than going to trial, and juries tend to believe police and prosecutors and return guilty verdicts close to 90% of the time. People like Cohen have more resources than the poor people who usually get railroaded by the system, but there is also a lot of extra political will and resources devoted to their persecution (legally, prosecution).

Trump has a legitimate complaint that flipping carries massive potential for prosecutorial abuse, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people who dislike Trump are suddenly supporting the system that keeps so many people in jail or on parole, whether they are guilty or not, by threatening them with the hammer.
 
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Ham sandwich , which has been put upon before, is about how stringent the evidence has been vetted. Not about it being lax.

Try again.