Sure, but he spins everything as a win to his base. I'd be worried if his approval rating shot up because of this, but it won't and the democrats shouldn't just sit around and not take advantage because Trump spins shit.
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Trump/Pelosi/Schumer Debt Ceiling Bill Passes
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Sure, but he spins everything as a win to his base. I'd be worried if his approval rating shot up because of this, but it won't and the democrats shouldn't just sit around and not take advantage because Trump spins shit.
That would be quite the swerve and seems totally in line with his mindset and manic actions as president..
Leona Lewis
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Your optimism amuses me.
Yes, they're not that many but without them the GOP has no majority. Which gives these deluded assholes tremendous negotiating power.
Nah, GOP side, like has been happening for oh, the past 10+ years. (see: Eric Cantor losing his!)
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
True enough. His base is composed of enlightened individuals such as this:
Wow, that Tweet. Like I don't even know how to process what it would it take to think like that.
lets not do this
Actually, them being such crazy assholes gives Democrats bargaining power.
jack_package_200
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He turned his base away from the republican establishment goals so he can rub one out later to a supposed win.
Its great. Such a negotiator.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Now, obviously. But before this week, Republicans wanted to go it alone. Like on health care, with the success that we know.
Did you miss the thread we just had in OT?
Yup. The GOP does not have a functioning majority in Congress. Trump's presidency is a crazy mashup of Nixon's ethics issues w/ Carter's issues being a president totally misaligned with his congressional leadership.
People are dumb. Trump was willing to destroy Obamacare, but he passed a debt ceiling bill with Democrats though!!!!
And let's ignore the fact that he's a white supremacist and filled his administration with white supremacist. Like jeez..
And the added complication that the congressional leadership doesn't command its own members.
Hell, the last spending bill a few months ago, Nancy owned Ryan pretty hard.
From Trump's perspective, he's probably getting a lot more than just positive press. He's established a mutual beneficial relationship with top dems to get things done when Republicans wouldn't/couldn't. To be honest, Trump is rarely in line with the GOP, which is why they never get anything done together. They should keep working together and reach some compromise on healthcare, immigration, and other issues. I don't care if Trump takes credit for it, it needs to happen.
plagiarize
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Since I don't think it will help him or the GOP electorally, I'm all for it.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Would Trump being a secret centrist liberal (aside from racism) be the thing that finally turns his base against him?
That would be funny. He would have burned his last bridge.
Darryl M R
Member
The GOP about to get hit with the same propaganda social media bots that were active throughout the election.
Aaron Strife
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All that was in the bill was raising the debt ceiling, a continuing resolution for three months and about $15bn in relief funding, along with some other token amendments.
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/115th-congress/senate-amendment/809/text
If you want to point out in McConnell's amendment where anything was "compromised away" be my guest.
I'd assume Reps not in the South or affected by the hurricanes.
This might be weird as a Dem voter, but nothing was compromised. Debt ceiling raised and Harvey funding. No weird shit.
I think because it looks super shitty to vote down hurricane funding etc. If it didn't get brought up for a vote, that's one thing, but to actively kill it would be pretty negative PR wise.
Because Trump has them fractured
plagiarize
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His base? I don't think they'll ever turn against him. But it'll no doubt cost him more votes from registered republicans than it would win him from independents and democrats.
fredrancour
Member
Most republicans are currently afraid of trump-worshipping primary voters. As long as there's q chance they can use trump to cut taxes at some point, they'll not break with him.
Felix Lighter
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Doing what is needed while driving a wedge between Trump and some number of congressional Republicans seems like a pretty good outcome.
QuantumBro
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Because some of those GOP members are from districts that need the FEMA funds. It's why concerned conservative Ted Cruz voted for it.
I mean, he still killed DACA in the first place.
This doesn't make up for that at all.
Aaron Strife
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I don't know. I don't trust that wily Schumer. He's got devil eyes.
just so we're clear I'm not being serious at all, I think Schumer's been doing a good job
I don't know. I don't trust that wily Schumer. He's got devil eyes.
just so we're clear I'm not being serious at all, I think Schumer's been doing a good job
I'd like to imagine that if this picture was a gif then Schumer's eyebrows would be popping up and down at an alarming speed.
Abinash117
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Some of you guys are looking into this as a swift from Trump himself( not talking specifically to you). He is not doing this because he wants to be a decent "governor" he doing this because it is positive coverage for him and that is all he cares about. Democrats are happy with this because Trump is dumb enough to fall for this.
Democrats actual trying to find compromise in other issues is unlikely, especially after December when the Democrats loses leverage and things go back to how it was before. Trump has uncompromising positions that is a no good for them like restricting legal immigration and the wall. They aren't going to cave for that and Trump is not in a position to demand anything because he just gave leverage to the Democrats. They know this relationship might not last so they are trying to get what they can get.
People shouldn't be easily fooled just because Trump did something good while having basically the wrong reason to do them.
Pop-O-Matic
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...I think I've seen this story before, and I unfortunately know how it ends.
Looks like a bot or a troll at "best"
It shouldn't be weird unless you just don't really pay attention to Congress or legislation. This is how must-pass bills have been working since at least 2012 -- GOP has majorities but can't actually pass anything, so when it comes to a bill that has to pass to keep the government functioning, the Democrats provide the majority of the votes and control the bill. There's no reason to expect any sort of compromise.
Gurgelhals
Member
I don't know. I don't trust that wily Schumer. He's got devil eyes.
But why is Schumer looking at John Roberts, of all people, like that?
Nah.
He meant Chuck Schumer.
Brock Reiher
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He didn't do anything today, he did it yesterday.
And all he did yesterday was act out of spite and the want for good news coverage.