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Trump review leans toward proposing mini-nuke

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
This is not how these things work, asshole. You set off a nuke, do the full shabang, not a little one. There's nothing we'll interpret as a 'little nuke', ya moron.
 

Morat

Banned
It's semantics, really. Tactical refers to dealing with something on the battle field, like an enemy position or formation. Strategic means going after their ability to wage war, like destroying their cities and factories. Nukes can do both. The only real reason that strategic nukes tend to be larger is because they're going after larger targets. The B-61 bomb can be used as both a strategic and nuclear weapon by "dialing in" the yield to correspond with the desired effect on target.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb

I should have specified earlier, but my point was that I cant imagine a modern conflict in which nuclear weapons are deployed on any level and remain as a theater weapon. These are after the weapons of the end times.
 
If you need a small nuke, just use regular bombs. Nukes are a last resort weapon, you really want to level cities when using them, so making them smaller is useless as hell.
He really just wants to say he dropped a nuke, and is trying to find ways to make it sound more justifiable.
 
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My first thought.
 

pulsemyne

Member
For those that don't know there are a lot of people high up in the military that want mini nukes and they were pressing Obama about them. On the other side, there were military people who thought they were a bad idea as they could "normalise" the use of nukes.
So this kind of idea has being going around for a while/.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
How can Trump get tactical nukes when his streak isn't even up to 25 yet? He just fucking camps in the Mar-A-Lago all match.
 
"If we have them, why can't we use them?"

He already told you what he was going to do when he became president, you just weren't listening. For some reason.
 

shaowebb

Member
You drop one and folks will drop more back. You can't win this way. It wont deter. It'll only slow and build us into a boogeyman that frightens the world enough to merit response in the form of escalated armaments and more hit and run tactics to avoid our standing armies. You can fight an army but not an idea and this idea would make people believe we have lost all reason and could be a permanent threat to them at any time and that we are something they would take measures against.

This. Would. Incite. Panic.

World leaders, and more than that, the pressure from their own frightened people would react by denouncing us and labeling us a threat. We would be a rally point for the world because we would become the enemy by acting out with nukes.
 

Haines

Banned
How come everytime these threads happen its accepted as fact.

Im just curious. Am i missing a point of these sources always being factual and accurate?

It just comes off as ofd that rumors are taken as fact in politics
 

Savitar

Member
He's real high on the nuke, always has been. Pity it's obvious he has no concept of what it would actually mean to use one.
 

Steel

Banned
A real life fat man.

figure out a way to make them mobile while you are at it.

Then figure out a way you can sell them for profi... Oh.

How come everytime these threads happen its accepted as fact.

Im just curious. Am i missing a point of these sources always being factual and accurate?

It just comes off as ofd that rumors are taken as fact in politics

Because it's not a rumor, it's more like someone that has heard this directly is talking to reporters. And this isn't anything classified so they wouldn't be committing a crime, they'd just get fired if they were found out, thus they leak anonymously. This happens in every administration, though usually 90% of the stuff that comes out is boring.
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
This is terrifying. I wish there was a country in the world that would call for inspections and other measures we take to deter development of such weapons. I don't trust Trump and co.
 
something something emails whatever

is there any criteria by which Trump is not the worst president in modern memory?

Speaking of her emails, it's time for a special prosector!

From the left: The investigation into the death of four Americans in Benghazi back in 2012 was a Sienfeldian investigation into nothing. In fact, the right was simply serving us all up a big nothing burger.

And from the right: The investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia is nothing more than a partisan witch-hunt. The left hasn’t accepted the results of a lawfully held election; ergo, the appointment of a special prosecutor.

But with all due haste, a special prosecutor needs to be appointed to the “closed” Hillary Rodham email investigation.

Former assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew McCarthy posited in National Review, the decision not to prosecute was determined long before, back when President Obama essentially dismissed the notion that Clinton’s actions had endangered national security. As McCarthy opines, Obama was providing cover for Clinton because Obama, himself, had communicated with her on the unauthorized email account.

Comey, it has been theorized, was taking his cue from the chief executive.

Or, as President Trump tweeted out on Sept. 1.

Wow, looks like James Comey exonerated Hillary Clinton long before the investigation was ov3r and so much more. A rigged system
 

Hermii

Member
"The Trump administration is considering proposing smaller, more tactical nuclear weapons that would cause less damage than traditional thermonuclear bombs — a move that would give military commanders more options but could also make the use of atomic arms more likely."

Sounds like a wonderful tradeoff /s.

If you are not deterred by normal nukes, or the enormous US conventional arsenal Im sure smaller nukes would deter you /s.
 

KDR_11k

Member
Interesting. Apparently the smallest yield from a Davy Crockett is equivalent to 10 tons of TNT, whereas the yield from the MOAB is equivalent to 11 tons of TNT. So technically, the Trump administration has already used weapons more powerful than an atomic bomb and nobody really cares that much. Great =/

Well, the two differences are that a MOAB is a gigantic device that cannot be mounted on most planes because it's too heavy while the Davy Crockett is portable and the DC is designed to irradiate as area denial while a MOAB obviously doesn't produce radiation.

Makes you wonder how much radiation a "mini" nuke produces. With regular nukes the blast is so big that the radiation barely matters because everything that gets irradiated gets destroyed anyway.

And AFAIK the problem with nuclear bunker busters is that you need the bomb to ram deep into the ground but nukes are very fragile and would get smashed by the impact.
 

Pandy

Member
The ironic thing is, the open use of such weapons would completely undermine any discussion that North Korea (or Iran, for that matter) shouldn't be allowed to develop their own nuclear weapon programs.
 

ISee

Member
What's the point of a mini nuke, when things like moab exit? And how small is small anyway? And why would you use a bomb that leaves radioactive residue behind? Residue that can contaminate an entire region and possibly spread through weather effects across the globe. Using nuclear weapons is as irresponsible as it can get, not just because of the destruction they can bring. All weapons destroy lives. The aftereffects of nuclear weapons are to dangerous. This is an idiotic plan that will only lead to other nations following in rebuilding their nuclear arsenal.

So in a way this is a typical Trump plan. No thinking involved.

would love to see nuke hand grenade.

The average soldier can throw a grenade about 25 meters. You'd probably kill yourself by throwing a nuke hand granade, even if the blast wouldn't catch you. Not immediately but the radiation will hit and effect you. Just saying.
 
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