Twitter Bans Misgendering & Deadnaming Transgender Community

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I'm okay with the names, but not okay with the pronouns. Like an earlier poster said if need be I would avoid it entirely.

I don't really agree with calling someone with a penis a she.
I'm not quite sure how you manage to know what someone else has in their pants, unless you have x-ray vision - and even then, I'd have to wonder what you do about those with ambiguous external genitalia, like intersexed people, some of whom have won the legal right to have their birth certificates designated accordingly.

I think most of us find it easier to just use gender pronouns according to how a person presents themselves - or failing that, to politely inquire whether they have a preference.
 
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I'm not quite sure how you manage to know what someone else has in their pants, unless you have x-ray vision
Probably because the majority of the human species who are not kidding themselves and/or blinded by their ideology can tell the difference between a person born as a man, who is dressed up as a woman and conversely a person born as a woman, dressed up as a man. Regardless if they’ve had any operations. This is true 99.99 percent of the time. That’s just the way it is.

It’s human nature, like instinctively sensing danger or picking up on sexual vibes from someone. You can just tell.

It is what it is.

I’d call them she or he if they want. I draw the line at xir or whateverthefuck other made up words they fantasise about.
 
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I'm firmly in the "live and let live" camp. If a biological male wants to identify as a woman and live accordingly, great. It doesn't harm me at all, so what do I care? I'll play along and use her preferred pronouns because why not. This just boils down to being nice to folks and not deliberately going out of my way to tick people off.

But no, I'm not going to date a trans woman, and no I don't want trans women mixed in with my porn (a real thread from Resetera). Feel free to live your live as a woman, but biological sex matters and you're not actually a woman on that particular dimension. There's nothing wrong with me as a straight cis guy for not being turned on by somebody with a penis, and stop saying otherwise.
 
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I'm firmly in the "live and let live" camp. If a biological male wants to identify as a woman and live accordingly, great. It doesn't harm me at all, so what do I care? I'll play along and use her preferred pronouns because why not. This just boils down to being nice to folks and not deliberately going out of my way to tick people off.

But no, I'm not going to date a trans woman, and no I don't want trans women mixed in with my porn (a real thread from Resetera). Feel free to live your live as a woman, but biological sex matters and you're not actually a woman on that particular dimension. There's nothing wrong with me as a straight cis guy for not being turned on by somebody with a penis, and stop saying otherwise.
What if they are completely passable and post surgery?
Like you'd never know unless they showed you an old picture

I feel like a lot of people's issues with trans tends to be the uncanny valley most of them go through where it's quite clear they're transitioning. The thing is we've all probably seen plenty of ftm/mtf passing by in public and simply not realize it.
 
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What if they are completely passable and post surgery?
Like you'd never know unless they showed you an old picture

I feel like a lot of people's issues with trans tends to be the uncanny valley most of them go through where it's quite clear they're transitioning. The thing is we've all probably seen plenty of ftm/mtf passing by in public and simply not realize it.
Agreed. Fine with me, but it's not like they need my approval or anything.
 
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What if they are completely passable and post surgery?
Like you'd never know unless they showed you an old picture
He was mentioning porn. An art form where it is kind of important to show close-ups of extended duration of the genitalia.
You will notice immediately. Plastic surgery is just not advanced enough. Far from.
 
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Yeah that's the problem right there...

This is hilarious, can't wait until twitter eats itself. Glad I've never had an account. I'd probably be banned for posting pictures of my daughter and calling her my daughter...
What could you possibly contribute to Twitter, NPC accounts?
I'm firmly in the "live and let live" camp. If a biological male wants to identify as a woman and live accordingly, great. It doesn't harm me at all, so what do I care? I'll play along and use her preferred pronouns because why not. This just boils down to being nice to folks and not deliberately going out of my way to tick people off.

But no, I'm not going to date a trans woman, and no I don't want trans women mixed in with my porn (a real thread from Resetera). Feel free to live your live as a woman, but biological sex matters and you're not actually a woman on that particular dimension. There's nothing wrong with me as a straight cis guy for not being turned on by somebody with a penis, and stop saying otherwise.
Sometimes you can't tell until you see the hands and the feet, then you can't unsee it. But some people are a cut above that.


With porn they make more money catering to categories. I can't see them not categorizing it.
 

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Here's a question I thought of...

Does actually taking HRT change the pheromones that are emitted by the individual? If one is born male and is on HRT does she now emit female pheromones? That may be a way that one could naturally tell without peeking in their panties.
Yep! The pheromones absolutely change to match the sex hormones the person is taking. The texture and thickness of the skin, the way the body perspires and the scent, and our reactions to the opposite pheromones...all change drastically.

I was completely asexual before transitioning, and then a few months in I suddenly had attraction to men that wasn't there before...sometimes based on pheromones alone.

For example...last year, I had lunch with a male ex-coworker friend that I hadn't seen in several years, and much to my surprise I found I was heavily attracted to him seemingly based on his pheromones. Later, I found out through a text that the feelings I had experienced were more than mutual. (It's weird finding out so much later in life just how powerful pheromones can be!) :lollipop_content:
 
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Yep! The pheromones absolutely change to match the sex hormones the person is taking. The texture and thickness of the skin, the way the body perspires and the way the scent smells, and our reactions to the opposite pheromones also changes. I was completely asexual before transitioning, and then a few months in I suddenly had attraction to men that wasn't there before...sometimes based on pheromones alone.

I had lunch with male friend I hadn't seen in years, and found out the sudden pheromone-based attraction I felt for him was more than mutual. (It's weird finding out so much layer in life just how powerful pheromones can be!)
Part of my job deals in pheromones, but it is not related to humans. Sometimes the connections are a little long in coming in my brain. That is interesting, that there would be that profound a chemical reaction just through HRT. I have no interest in the topic other than tangential thoughts related. I have written about it in other topics more thoroughly. Bottom line, in my opinion: Try to be as pleasant as possible in public as one can handle.

EDIT: Thought of another question: Post menopausal woman have an increased chance of developing cancer with the use of HRT. Does it have a factor in one so young basically relying on HRT to keep up appearance? Is it something that you are warned about before starting?

I will add that all of my knowledge of trans gendered individuals comes from a book written in the 60's. It is interesting learning how things change, they really stay the same.
 
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Part of my job deals in pheromones, but it is not related to humans. Sometimes the connections are a little long in coming in my brain. That is interesting, that there would be that profound a chemical reaction just through HRT. I have no interest in the topic other than tangential thoughts related. I have written about it in other topics more thoroughly. Bottom line, in my opinion: Try to be as pleasant as possible in public as one can handle.

EDIT: Thought of another question: Post menopausal woman have an increased chance of developing cancer with the use of HRT. Does it have a factor in one so young basically relying on HRT to keep up appearance? Is it something that you are warned about before starting?

I will add that all of my knowledge of trans gendered individuals comes from a book written in the 60's. It is interesting learning how things change, they really stay the same.
From what I understand, trans women may be overall less at risk of breast cancer than non-trans women. I haven't looked thoroughly into the subject, but I wonder if it has to do with whether progesterone was prescribed or not...or especially the type of estradiol or progesterone taken. So long as it is bioidentical, I understand that it should be safe for long-term usage.

Having been affected epigenetically by Diethylstilbestrol, I am at a higher risk for cancer in many forms. I'm trying to be extra careful with my own hormone regimen, and am avoiding progesterone altogether in order to be as safe as possible. I already had significant breast growth on Depo-Estradiol alone, and really the only significant thing I may be missing out on is a stronger sex drive......which, when you have been asexual for as long as I was...is really no problem whatsoever. :goog_grinning_sweat:
 
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What if they are completely passable and post surgery?
Like you'd never know unless they showed you an old picture

I feel like a lot of people's issues with trans tends to be the uncanny valley most of them go through where it's quite clear they're transitioning. The thing is we've all probably seen plenty of ftm/mtf passing by in public and simply not realize it.
Still no, transwoman are still not, and I hope no one gets ofended, real women, they can't have children, I think no one should be criticized for not wanting to date a transwoman, for whatever reason they have, much less be called a transphobe for it.

Ehh, trans are a minuscule percentage of the population, the ones who are passable are an even smaller percentage. so probably not plenty...