DeepEnigma
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Now the next question.
Has enforcement been equally applied to all groups across Twitter, Facebook, etc., under that rudimentary definition?
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Has enforcement been equally applied to all groups across Twitter, Facebook, etc., under that rudimentary definition?
DeepEnigma
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This. And the absolute ideological farce of a narrative that anything right of far-left control is considered "alt or far-right."
And every rapper, TV mogul and left politically loved DJT until he ran against the established status quo. Even asked him for almost 3 decades since the 80's if he'd ever consider running for president. I'm seeing a pattern here.
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Guilty_AI
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This is actually quite a common story for top managers it seems. That said i'd take it with a grain of salt, precisely because its so common so its easy to make up (numberonecatwinner isn't a very convincing name either).Explains a lot
Reading through some reviews of SpaceX and reports of other people who interacted with, the general impression i get of Elon is that he isn't a good person to work with from a personal relationships standpoint, but he isn't the stupid buffon the current media is trying to paint him as either.
I worked with Elon Musk personally in the early days at SpaceX. There were 2 Elons: a good one and a bad one, and he could be vicious.
One of the first team members at SpaceX Jim Cantrell recalls being both frustrated and inspired by Musk's leadership while working with him in 2001.
www.businessinsider.com
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DeepEnigma
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The stupid buffoon narrative™ they constantly go to with people against their grain. AnotherThis is actually quite a common story for top managers it seems. That said i'd take it with a grain of salt, precisely because its so common so its easy to make up (numberonecatwinner isn't a very convincing name either).
Reading through some reviews of SpaceX and reports of other people who interacted with, the general impression i get of Elon is that he isn't a good person to work with from a personal relationships standpoint, but he isn't the stupid buffon the current media is trying to paint him as either.
I worked with Elon Musk personally in the early days at SpaceX. There were 2 Elons: a good one and a bad one, and he could be vicious.
One of the first team members at SpaceX Jim Cantrell recalls being both frustrated and inspired by Musk's leadership while working with him in 2001.
pattern.
Guilty_AI
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Research tip for google search: If you want to dig deeper into any news that went viral, to know how much of it is true and how much it just media typical sensacionalism and exagerations, use the the tool that allows you to limit the date period of the search.The stupid buffoon narrative™ they constantly go to with people against their grain. Another
Limit the date to sometime before the news went viral, you're likely to get more reliable information that way instead of the usual endless stream of confirmation bias news that all have the same source. (naturally doesn't work for everything, but can be useful in some cases like this one)
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DeaDPo0L84
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I love that it's mostly the same people putting on the cape to defend people from seeing "hate speech" that were also saying people who didn't want the covid shot deserve to die and are the shittiest people walking the planet. How quickly the virtue signaling winds sway.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Of course it hasn't. I have said multiple times in the last year that moderation on Twitter sucks ass.
But the answer is not to just have NO moderation at all. That's fucking stupid.
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StreetsofBeige
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That's a non-issue. I've never worked at tech companies and this kind of stuff goes on all the time to make the execs feel good. When there's news the US boss is visiting or the buyers from Walmart are visiting, a company memo goes out to everyone 24-48 hours in advance telling everyone to clean up their desks and dont wear anything stupid to work that day. Dont leave any important documents lying around the office either just in case. When these people leave the office to check out nearby stores to see their products, someone the day before already went there and tidied up the shelves. Execs aresnt stupid and they know this goes on. Dont forget they moved up the ladder and likely had to do this too. But they tolerate it as long as the company does well. Company politics like staying late to impress bosses has been going on probably since the pyramids were built too.Explains a lot
If Elon is the big wig with the bank account controlling the shots, that's life. Most companies arent like that because the execs in charge dont usually invest $100s of millions or billions of their own money into a company. By the looks of it Twitter is a pretty lax company to work at because before Musk I've never heard of Twitter being a ballbusting company to work at. Dorsey even said the company is overstaffed as he kept on hiring even though the company has never been great at making profit. They actually lose money most years despite other social media sites making $20 billion profit like FB (and that is even after Zuck loses billions in VR lab stuff). So it looks like Twitter employees have never experienced a boss coming to crack the whip. That's the Elon way. Tesla would never have been successful if he was a chill boss. He sounds like a hardcore boss at Tesla too.
A good example of high level people needing to be coddled are in private companies where a family tree has ownd it for generations. Jimmyboy at 24 years year old knows nothing but is rat raced up the chain by daddy.
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An intern setting his first foot in a corporate environment and viewing the entire scenario through a lens of personal resentment.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Common at my first corporate job as well (we were a multinational, so when the foreign execs who owned us came we got the same sort of emails, same practices). That's a different scenario than having some exec around on prem and it happening every day because of it - becoming an ingrained part of the day to day work culture.
RAÏSanÏa
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Against the absolute ideological farce of a narrative that anything left of far-right is considered far-left contributes to causing irreconcilable differences.This. And the absolute ideological farce of a narrative that anything right of far-left control is considered "alt or far-right."
And every rapper, TV mogul and left politically loved DJT until he ran against the established status quo. Even asked him for almost 3 decades since the 80's if he'd ever consider running for president. I'm seeing a pattern here.
In that vein, it doesn't help when Musk uses hyperbolic language associated with far right conspiracies saying he believes that a woke mind virus penetrates entertainment leading civilization to suicide. What and how any of that "leads civilization to suicide" provokes a few questions about it and Musk's condition. Maybe you can explain what "leading civilization to suicide" means? What is this suicide? The most generous explanation I can think of without an explanation is derived from equating 'woke mind virus' with LGBTQ+(from other sources) and is quite diabolical and, if it's the case, would be understandably threatening to people. Knowing what Musk means might help.
Is the pattern that some people can change their minds with new information?
Or is there a conspiracy with the hidden powers of the established status quo? Is it possible people like certain things and don't want them threatened?
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diffusionx
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well, it’s been another week and twitter is still around, looks like even the blue hairs at the verge and other tech sites are bored and moving on. I’d be pretty embarrassed if I was them, the hissy fit was hilarious, but they don’t have any shame.
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BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
Related to Musk, but I found out via lithub just now that his sister is an entrepreneur as well. She owns a service called Passionflix, that adapts romance and passion novels and streams similar content. Subscribers in the six figures.
Jesus man. Whole damn family is made of money.
Jesus man. Whole damn family is made of money.
a multicultural team of v
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It is so blatantly clear that, assuming any of it is even true, that this is an intern with absolutely zero business, corporate, or frankly life and people experience.
"People knew how to present ideas in a way that would resonate with him" uhh, no shit? There are chapters in How to Win Friends and Influence People devoted to that exact strategy. You should always try to present ideas in a way that will resonate with your audience, especially your boss - and it doesn't matter if your boss is Elon Musk or the head janitor.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
This is the madlad who did the "insulin is free now lol" tweet.
strange headache
Banned
Dude is right, Insulin is being kept at an artificially high price due to necessary demand and cartel-like price gauging by the pharmaceutical companies. That sad part is WAPO taking the side of Eli Lilly in order to one-up Musk, when in reality that parody tweet forced the company to admit to their ludicrous prices.
‘More work to do’: Eli Lilly admits insulin pricing could be lower amid Twitter chaos
Furor over platform’s verified profiles may have done some good, but challenges still plague the site after a mass worker exodus
www.theguardian.com
I guess establishing bogeymen is far more important to the press than actually defending people's interests. Sean Morrow has done more good in a single tweet than the WAPO in a year's worth of reporting.
The fact that a single parody tweet, that was even marked as such, caused so much financial strife, clearly shows what impact Twitter can have on our society. There's also something really wrong with the financial market if it reacts so nervously to a single parody tweet.
Maiden Voyage
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RAÏSanÏa
Member
No ritual bell stood out more. It looks like an art installation. indications of a late night, Cokes=wokes, Larping hero fantasy ... is that "Suicide of civilization"?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Agreed.
And there isn't "NO moderation." So what's the issue?
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I'm starting to see the issue (sarcasm). Patterns, patterns everywhere.
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Sam Harris explained in his latest pod episode why he left Twitter, and if you're someone who's followed Sam's career, you already knew it had nothing to do with him "not being able to handle criticism" as this is the same guy who's received untold amounts of ridicule and threats criticism Islam and woke ideologies, as well as him hating on Trump for years.
Why Sam did it related back to the Alyssa Milano juxtaposition. He said it was making him a worse person. And he was starting to get resentment towards people he likes/liked and people he doesn't even know. And he didn't want to be that way anymore. He said his view of the world and humanity was becoming too negatively slanted because of this platform. And given he's not very active on it in the first place, he decided to leave.
And I don't blame him. He's 100% right, that's what this platform does to many people. I guarantee if the platform didn't exist, there would be far less polarization out there and less hatred for disagreement.
And he said Elon bringing Trump back had zero to do with it. He supports Elon doing whatever he wants with his platform. Even if he disagrees with the decision.
Why Sam did it related back to the Alyssa Milano juxtaposition. He said it was making him a worse person. And he was starting to get resentment towards people he likes/liked and people he doesn't even know. And he didn't want to be that way anymore. He said his view of the world and humanity was becoming too negatively slanted because of this platform. And given he's not very active on it in the first place, he decided to leave.
And I don't blame him. He's 100% right, that's what this platform does to many people. I guarantee if the platform didn't exist, there would be far less polarization out there and less hatred for disagreement.
And he said Elon bringing Trump back had zero to do with it. He supports Elon doing whatever he wants with his platform. Even if he disagrees with the decision.
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a multicultural team of v
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Apple:
Also Apple:
metro.co.uk
Also Apple:
Apple restricts AirDrop to 10 minutes in China amid anti-government protests
Chinese iPhones can only receive AirDrops from 'Everyone' for 10 minutes.
metro.co.uk
DeepEnigma
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dem
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Elon is really good at weaponizing morons.
Make it about free speech, no matter how absurd the argument.
Everyone has to advertise on Twitter… or else they are against free speech? That’s how it works now?
But also, pay me $8 a month or your free speech will be buried below those with tier 1 free speech.
Make it about free speech, no matter how absurd the argument.
Everyone has to advertise on Twitter… or else they are against free speech? That’s how it works now?
But also, pay me $8 a month or your free speech will be buried below those with tier 1 free speech.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Apple:
Also Apple:
Apple restricts AirDrop to 10 minutes in China amid anti-government protests
Chinese iPhones can only receive AirDrops from 'Everyone' for 10 minutes.
Yeah name and shame advertisers for having moderation concerns. That will definitely bring them back.
This is the guy people people keep calling a business genius?
daffyduck
Member
And how often does that actually happen, vs the reverse?
strange headache
Banned
Apple:
Also Apple:
Apple restricts AirDrop to 10 minutes in China amid anti-government protests
Chinese iPhones can only receive AirDrops from 'Everyone' for 10 minutes.
Apple hates end-user freedom in general.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
We know where he stands the minute he took issue with a declarative statement of the current Overton marketing window, with a insignificant whataboutism rebuttal.
Right in the feels.
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a multicultural team of v
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Yeah I'm not really sure what his endgame is here. Sure he can finance some battles but he can't finance literally ALL of them, so either he has some specific goal he is trying to achieve with Apple or he is just shooting wildly at whatever company he feels like, which will burn him eventually.
I'm pretty convinced they just wanted a "Imma ready to leave twittah!" statement 'on the record' so they can dig it up later if needed to signal their virtue harder. Naturally past tweets that go against their current narrative were just "I was in a bad place at the time and am working on being a better human".
Twitter is a cesspool of past GOTCHA moments that can be selectively applied.
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DeepEnigma
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*only in the west.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Musk is out of his mind. He may be the richest man in the world, but he is running the 3rd or 4th most popular social media platform going to bat against the most valuable company on earth who also has the smartphone market essentially cornered.
He literally cannot win a fight against Apple. What is he doing?
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a multicultural team of v
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sounds like elon is about to be tim sweeny and microsoft's best friend
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
God please be true.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
The cynic in me feels if they pull Twitter from the app store, it won't be "until we feel secure it takes election rhetoric seriously" it'll be something like "Twitter must do a better job moderating hate speech" and of course "hate speech" to tech elites is agreeing with JK Rowling.
I think Big Tech is highly annoyed that someone who hasn't completely capitulated to certain ideologies is running a major platform.
I think Big Tech is highly annoyed that someone who hasn't completely capitulated to certain ideologies is running a major platform.
Guilty_AI
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I mean yeah no matter who loses we win, but it's astonishingly stupid for him to do this. It makes the last month look like a collection of decisions that were earth shatteringly genius.who cares what he's thinking
He is overdosing on his own self created hype. It's the only explanation.
Hasn't this been public knowledge for years?
Didn't they go to legal war with Fortnite over it?
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Guilty_AI
Member
For me, i'm more than happy for having a billionaire sacrificing 44 billion dollars and extra revenue with things that benefit is no matter how it turns out. Truly a trans humanist.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
That person is a total psycho.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Musk has regulators worldwide breathing down his neck for both employment law violations and regulations on content moderation...
Not everything is American politics.. both Apple and Google have to take it seriously when an app on their stores is possibly violating international laws.
This has all been such a huge disaster of his own making for Musk. The $13 billion in loans he took on for the buyout is one of the worst decisions in business history lol He took a platform that was surviving but not truly "making money" and saddled it with huge debt, while pissing off the people who pay Twitter's bills (advertisers).. trying to go to war with regulators all over the world, Twitter's business partners and many now former business partners, and now Apple... wow lol
Not everything is American politics.. both Apple and Google have to take it seriously when an app on their stores is possibly violating international laws.
This has all been such a huge disaster of his own making for Musk. The $13 billion in loans he took on for the buyout is one of the worst decisions in business history lol He took a platform that was surviving but not truly "making money" and saddled it with huge debt, while pissing off the people who pay Twitter's bills (advertisers).. trying to go to war with regulators all over the world, Twitter's business partners and many now former business partners, and now Apple... wow lol
DeepEnigma
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
What a dumbass take.
That's like saying Walmart takes a 40% tax on every bag of apples someone buys. And that even goes for the first bag bought, not the bag hitting $1M.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Harris has/had literally the worst case of TDS I've ever seen.
Sad to see how badly it impacted his ethics and thinking, tragic in fact.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Yeah I don't understand what he is doing. Thumbing his nose at CBS and other media personalties is one thing. That's just small potatoes trolling and memeing.
But directly going after Apple publicly for their valid concerns? He's lost it.
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