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Unlimited Free access to Xbox Fitness? Apparently not exactly true...

Wildstar75

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Felt this deserved its own thread.. I don't want to derail the original thread..

From Microsoft's website: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/games/xbox-fitness#1-2:

Work out smarter with famous trainers

Introducing the future of fitness. Experience the world’s best workouts with instant, personalized feedback, right in your home on Xbox Fitness. Train with Jillian Michaels, Tracy Anderson, P90X, Insanity and more. Optimize every workout with immediate feedback on your form, power and heart rate with the all new Kinect, featuring Muscle Mapping, Power Gauge, and Pulse. Plus, feed your motivation with social challenges. Unlimited access is yours for free with an Xbox Live Gold membership for a limited time. Only on Xbox One.*

*Xbox Fitness coming Holiday 2013. Starting January 2015, unlimited access requires a paid Xbox Fitness Pass subscription and an Xbox Live Gold membership (both sold separately). Additional Xbox Fitness content is available for purchase, and may vary over time. See xbox.com/xboxfitness.


So it appears to be quite the deal given the cost of P90X and Insanity so I was quite excited as I was already looking into those. In fact I would say this was my deciding factor in not cancelling my Xbox One which should arrive at my house later today.

But after looking at multiple review sites you have to pay for some of the good videos. For example $26AUD ($24USD) for two Jillian Michaels videos:
http://www.destructoid.com/impressions-xbox-fitness-266151.phtml
http://stevivor.com/review/xbox-fitness/

Also from the Getting GAF off its butt thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=90799292

Originally Posted by TwiztidElf

Only two P90X videos (Plyo X, Shoulders & Arms)
Only one Insanity video (Plyo cardio circuit)
No Focus T25

More of a sample than a fully featured product imo.
Still plenty of good free content here, but don't expect to be following a P90X or Insanity two month calendar program.


Which is what I feel Microsoft led me to believe. What's worse is after you pay money to unlock certain videos, you dont own them either, because they are still behind the Live Gold Paywall.

So for me, I feel this is yet another 180 from Microsoft and a betrayal of trust. Can anyone who has an Xbox One provide more details I can add to the op? How much is free, not free?


Adding more feedback:

From JaggedSac:
The videos are legit workout videos. The thing I am now noticing is that the free ones are basically one or two videos from a workout set. They provide a button to buy the DVDs to these sets, lol. There is a decent mix of workout types so you could hobble together something resembling a plan. There really isn't too many videos on here and it is easy to see why they made this thing fee with Gold, there isn't enough content to warrant a sub.

From PorkFryRice:
10 minute and 20 minute solutions are Free with Gold. They range from Belly Fat Burner to Cardio Kickboxing. Too many to list.

Mossa, P90X, Insanity all have Free with Gold but i think those are limited to a certain workouts. Right now i see Mossa Fight Workout 1 and Mossa Core Workout 1 are Free with Gold for example.

There are some like Tracy Anderson and Jillian Michaels with prices and "Free Workout" underneath them.
 

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Wasnt this Insanity/P90X for Gold a pretty big thing for quite a few people? How could they NOT straighten this out before launch?
 

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Damn.. I find it kind of amusing everyone posting stuff like.. Wait Xbox music also cost money?? Plus live?? Fitness has more pay options??

Did these people not use a 360 last gen?
 
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How is this news? Microsoft always said that it was free for 2014. Natural deduction would be that you would have to pay for it from then on.
 

Nightengale

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I thought we already knew this?

One year's free* from launch day**.

*with Gold
**If you bought it next year October, you only get one month free of Xbox Fitness. It doesn't start from day-of-purchase.
 

mekes

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This makes sense and is in line with my expectations of the service. It would be a great feature if everything was behind 1 paywall, these workout programs cost a good deal of money, there would be too much work to get every course free under 1 program. They are competing with each other after all.

As it stands it sits nicely in line with the worst of Xbox Live. It will be locked behind 2 pay walls with extra content available, none of which you can ever own.
 

KillGore

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Oh man, what the hell?

The stupid part here is that you don't own the videos, after you pay them. What the fuck?
 

CypherSignal

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All of the handling around the Xbox Fitness app seems downright insane when you compare it to the Health and Fitness app that the Windows 8.1 update came with. Tons (over a hundred?) of different workout videos, dietary plans w/ recipes, and miscellaneous medical info.

For free (at least, as far as they've discussed...). I don't think there are even any ads in it.
 

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Knew this sounded too good to be true...

Edit: Ok now I'm confused - my initial thought was that we get ALL of Xbox Fitness for free for a full year. I only skimmed the OP (my bad) and assumed that even in the first "free" year, we would still have to pay for certain videos. Is this not the case then? If it's all free for a year then I'm back to being ok with this because that's how I assumed it worked...
 

Dunlop

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I'm feeling less bad about ordering the PS4 first now (I just saved a retarded amount of money that it was too hard to pass up)

Out of either console, this was my most sought after "game".

I was still debating selling my PS4 when it arrives to get the XB1 but now I will just wait until march and look at people's reviews


...also I fell off my roof like a dumbass and sprained foot pretty badly so won't be excising fo fa while anyways :p
 

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I've been in the xbox fitness threads, we all pretty much knew it was free until jan 2015, now the amount of workouts seem low, but the paid wall we all knew if you followed xbox fitness threads.
 

Miletius

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That's a shame. I don't know if many people will be interested at those prices. Especially when it was advertised as being free with gold for a year.

I've been in the xbox fitness threads, we all pretty much knew it was free until jan 2015, now the amount of workouts seem low, but the paid wall we all knew if you followed xbox fitness threads.
I was not aware, and I've been in several Xbox Fitness threads.
 

Nicktals

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I thought we already knew this?

One year's free* from launch day**.

*with Gold
**If you bought it next year October, you only get one month free of Xbox Fitness. It doesn't start from day-of-purchase.
Read more. Even now much of it isnt free, if I'm understanding correctly.
 

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This makes sense and is in line with my expectations of the service. It would be a great feature if everything was behind 1 paywall, these workout programs cost a good deal of money, there would be too much work to get every course free under 1 program. They are competing with each other after all.

As it stands it sits nicely in line with the worst of Xbox Live. It will be locked behind 2 pay walls with extra content available, none of which you can ever own.
Honestly, the biggest problem with Xbox Fitness is that being a separate subscription service where you cannot access the content anywhere else, it shouldn't be behind a Gold paywall.
 

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I've been in the xbox fitness threads, we all pretty much knew it was free until jan 2015, now the amount of workouts seem low, but the paid wall we all knew if you followed xbox fitness threads.
The problem here is calling it "unlimited access", no matter what other explanation they use. We had a similar law suit here in germany for internet "flatrates", where Deutsche Telekom was forbidden to use the word "flatrate" for something that would not be considered a flatrate by the general public.

Its just misleading and annoying to deal with.
 

Wildstar75

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Read more. Even now much of it isnt free, if I'm understanding correctly.
Yes, as I understand the reviews and comments from Xbox One owners, even for the first year only some of it is free. And some of the good stuff is quite expensive in 2014. Which doesn't match my expectation when they said UNLIMITED access for free the first year. Again, I won't be able to try this out for myself until I get mine tonight. I am only reporting what others have said.
 

nynt9

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MS PR being misleading? MS adding monetization on top of already monetized services? No way, no one could have seen this coming!
 

jet1911

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Oh man, what the hell?

The stupid part here is that you don't own the videos, after you pay them. What the fuck?
Errr do you own the movies and tv shows you watch on Netflix? Same thing here.

Limited content sucks though.
 

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I'm going to get Wii Fit U for free when I buy the little fit-bit doohickey...

Free as in free for life...
 

statham

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The problem here is calling it "unlimited access", no matter what other explanation they use. We had a similar law suit here in germany for internet "flatrates", where Deutsche Telekom was forbidden to use the word "flatrate" for something that would not be considered a flatrate by the general public.

Its just misleading and annoying to deal with.
I just read one of the links, destructoid is saying there are paid content too, can someone confirmed, because I thought everything was free(with gold) until 2015.
 

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I just read one of the links, destructoid is saying there are paid content too, can someone confirmed, because I thought everything was free(with gold) until 2015.
So Fitness GAF DIDNT knew about this either yet?
(If its true)
 

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So, if true this pretty much kills any and all hype I had for this feature... Paying a subscription to only get a small sample of the workout videos you need to actually put together a fitness plan? Not cool.
 

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The "fitness pass" gives you access to everything though right? or is there still pay stuff on top of that I'm confused.