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US, Canada, and UK say they have intelligence that Iran shot down Ukraine jet.

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Why stop there? If we play the blame game by these rules we can just keep going back further and further till we get to the Neanderthals and place blame there. In which case, it seems like you would have a lot of reparations to owe.
We stop there because it was just 17 years ago, as 2003 can be directly attributed to everything going on in Iraq/Iran/Syria/Yemen/Libya/Turkey right now.

Don't forget, the attack on the embassy is also America's fault, because America started it in some other point in history. It all comes back to Iran not being responsible for any of their own actions, and you have to point.it.all.out.
I'd call toppling a democratically elected president, installing a dictator and propping him up for decades just to get favourable oil deals as a pretty good and direct reason for why shiite islamists were able to hijack the ensuing revolt in the late 70's (which was always going to happen, because the unpopular regime was basically a foreign occupation). Queue a decade of the iran-iraq war where the entire world backed Saddam, and Iran was on its own. It still managed to defend itself even with american provided chemical warheads raining on their heads courtesy of Saddam, another American pet that turned bad.

I'm sorry but trying to paint Iranians as the baddies in every instance, given such history, and given very very recent history is just contributing to the America directed comedy of errors we find ourselves viewing from the sidelines.

The best thing that can happen now is for Iran to acquire nuclear warheads and ICBM's ASAP. Because Saudis were just given nuclear technology by Trump. It would be very dangerous if the shiite world didn't have them to stop the onslaught. Balance means peace. The very likes of ISIS congratulated Trump on his assassination of iran's commander, as he did more on the ground to combat them than anyone else outside of Assad and the kurdish factions. Let that sink in. When ISIS is congratulating you, you're doing it wrong.
 
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Until we see photos of hundreds of dead protesters, this is once again propaganda from a different source. Kind of like how 8 full time anti-china guys not even in china determined that millions of uighurs are being detained in camps in western china. The reality probably differs dramatically from their claims. As does the reality in Iran regarding your claims.


Once again, Trump benefits Iran, Russia, China etc. He's a great president for every country besides the US.
Seriously. Your contrarian stance of always cheering for the bad guy is getting a bit old. Please mix it up a little.
Remember, you can be unconformist and punk rock without that whole "horray for china how they deal with hk troublemakers" etc.

When you cheer for the bad guy it is edgy only the first 10-20-30 times. After that it becomes predictable and boring.
 
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llien

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Imagine being such haters of Trump that retaliating against terrorists that just fucken attacked the US embassy and had plans for more, are innocent victims.
Oh, give me a break.
Sulemani was no more a terrorist, than Ronald Reagan, and I'm being generous here

British and Russian invasion of Iran was a temporary maneuver to keep them out of WW2 on axis side
Soviet intelligence reported that German had plans to assassinate leaders meeting in Tehran. So rolling in with tanks was mostly just a (humiliating for Iran) measure against it..
 

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When's the last time we started a war?
When's the last time we finished one?

As far as war with Iran goes, that started in 1979. Ending it is long overdue. If Trump doesn't do it with conventional weapons Israel will do it with nukes. If we're very, very, very lucky the Iranian people themselves will decide it is time for new leadership before it is a shooting war between states. Let's see if Soleimani's replacement is as good at killing protesting Iranians as Soleimani was.
 
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We stop there because it was just 17 years ago, as 2003 can be directly attributed to everything going on in Iraq/Iran/Syria/Yemen/Libya/Turkey right now.
Well, too bad the largest terror attack ever happened a couple a years earlier and the US was still so devastated and on edge that they made some bad decisions. If 9/11 had never happened, none of what you mentioned would have. It's all Saudi Arabia's fault.
 
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but it’s time for Canada to show everyone how successful they can be diplomatically. You’re on Mr. Holier than Thou Blackface
It won't happen, Trudedope is a coward and simply not smart enough to do anything that has any merit. He's like the epitome of your Twitter user/Ree npc, sure they're "on the right side of history" simply because they don't actually do anything of value other than point and waggle their fingers.
 
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I'd call toppling a democratically elected president
You can't even get your terms correct. Mossadegh was Prime Minister. He was not elected by the people of Iran to be Prime Minister. He was just an elected representative. He was appointed Prime Minister by Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi. The Shah had full rights to appoint the Prime Minister, and to dismiss him.
 
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