And, you're back to the topic, but trying to move goalposts. The thread covers the month yet all you've done is continually reach for figures outside that period. And no, the topic covers the top sellers and record breaking sales for the Switch, it's just that dragged in revenue (and not for the month, for financial years) in an effort to run defence.
Your figures have not been for the month either. The NPD is based on revenue. They also list what games sold most year-to-date.
"Nintendo's attach rates have to do with a dearth of content for their platform. Most people buying a new Switch are buying the same games as each other, or you could say from the same shallow pool. It's not something anyone should aspire to, in my view"
"That's a whole lot of unreleased games."
"Nope. Nintendo took no lessons from the Playstation 2, still the best-selling console of all time. PS4 is currently number 2, number 3 is the PSX. Come back to me when Switch passes the PS3 at least."
"I don't think they consider Nintendo their competition."
1. Yeah, their strength is exclusive content, their weakness is third party content. That's not a dig, that's reality.
2. The guy linked me to a list full of unreleased games... so?
3. Again, just stating facts, not sure how facts are digs.
4. Again, how is that a dig? This is about how they're aiming for different things.
and that's just the first 3 pages
Bu-buh-but No games
Bu-buh-but PS2
Bu-buh-but Nintendo isn't even competition
Real intelligent debate here.
You came in, not to discuss the topic but to put down the competition because you felt threatened. Even went with the Cliche "has no games" in a month where Nintendo exclusives take up 50% of the top 20.
Yes, you were and are very triggered.
The NPD list has PS4 games in it, too... you know that right? Who dictates the topic is about Switch and not well... ANYTHING part of this month's NPD? You? I didn't say has no games, but keep trying, it's pretty clear who's actually triggered.
It is when you reach for it trying to cite full year revenue. It also is when you're trying to downplay the success of another console by disingenously citing revenue rather than operating profit when trying to measure the success of a platform. Had you gone for revenue figures for the top 20 cited in the post, that might have been a point. But you didn't because you were desperate to go "Bu-buh-but Sony" but the news in the OP didn't support it.
Hey, serious question... what console is the best-selling exclusive for on the chart? NPD ought to stop disingenuously doing things based on revenue instead of operating profit, right?
You've been shifting the goalposts since entering the topic. Just look at your earlier posts. "No games", "but the PS2", "look at these year to date revenue figures". You don't get to pick a disingenous argument like you did with those YTD revenue figures and then complain when people call you out on it and post actual measures of performance.
No one has argued with the games thing, which wasn't no games. The PS2 was in response to someone claiming SONY should take lessons from the Switch because of how well it's doing, the PS2 is the top-selling system ever, so why not take lessons from that? The revenue figures were after someone else made the money argument, I wasn't shifting goalposts, I was responding to people who did that for me. I'm still waiting for actual measures of performance actually, you're kindof failing at that.
Hell, by your logic a store going into liquidation is more successful than one that isn't because it generates more revenue selling it's stock off at a loss. "Bu-buh-but... their revenue is higher"
These straw man arguments are getting good.
This argument of revenue vs operating profit as a measure of success is hilarious. Someone needs to go and tell all of these companies that they're reporting their results to stakeholders wrong. And they need to tell all of the stakeholders to stop paying attention to actual return.
Yeah maybe while you tell NPD they report these numbers wrong since they base it on revenue.
Sony gaming is diversified into mobile, PC, technology licencing. Also merch and a few other sidelines.
The reason I'm using Nintendo as a whole is because they are a gaming centric business unlike Sony which is a big company with a foot in gaming, just like MS. Nintendo's business is gaming and it's products are gaming based. Sony, like MS have divisions within the gaming field which are the only comparable part of the business.
Uh-huh... how much does Nintendo make from their partnership selling Pokemon merchandise? You know the most profitable IP in the entire world for merchandising?
Nobody is putting words in your mouth. We've even got to the point where I'm having to directly quote your own posts just to keep you from wriggling and claiming otherwise. You came into the thread, insecure and triggered by news of a success that wasn't attributed to your toy of choice, threw out a whole lot of "bu-buh-buts", tried to use annual revenue figures to demonstrate success and to misleadingly show Sony outperforming and then when actual meaningful figures were provided you've bounced from goalpost to goalpost trying to find something, anything, to support your desperate attempt to run PR for a company that sold you a damn toy that you've clearly developed an unhealthy emotional investment in.
You keep talking about how I came into the thread, you can always quote my first post since you want to quote me so badly. Meaningful figures? Again, you're showing me Nintendo as an entire entity does slightly more than just SONY's gaming division, not the best argument. Again, you need to learn the goalpost shifting idea, if my first big claim in the thread was about who sells more games then that was the original goalpost, you've ignored it the entire conversation because you see other ways to disingenuously argue this.
Then don't bring it up in an argugment. There's no indication that what you've claimed is true.
I didn't, your friend did.
No, I used mostly
this thread. The numbers aren't perfect but they're a good ballpark.
Same bogus numbers as the Wiki which believes Call of Duty games don't break 2 million on the PS4, if you believe that there's a bridge I'm willing to sell you.
No, that was about your "b-but you're comparing the ENTIRE Nintendo company to Playstation, it's not fair!!!" argument, which doesn't stand when Nintendo makes 96% of their profits off their dedicated video game platform.
Are you going to prove 96% of their profits come from Switch? I'll wait.
Sony exclusives have a pretty bad attach rate (in numbers: not even close to half) compared to Nintendo exclusives. Looks like people aren't that interested in more generic 3rd person punchy shooty cinematic 20 hours of cutscenes experiences. Playstation stays a Cowadoody/NBA/NFL/Fifa machine.
What a disingenuous way to frame an argument. No one in their right mind expects Uncharted or TLOU to sell 50-60 million copies, that's patently absurd and nothing on Switch sells that much either. "Hey look, Zelda and Mario have high attach rates" yep... people don't buy a Switch to play Skyrim and Witcher 3, again, there's a lot more reasons people buy a PS4 than a Switch, this is evidenced by the monthly top 10s for both systems and which one changes more often.
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