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Valkyrie Elysium Announced (Square Enix, 2022, PS4/PS5/Steam)
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This looks like shit. Not the way I imagined Valkyrie Profile to come back.
Despite all that, this is still probably a day 1 for me.
Despite all that, this is still probably a day 1 for me.
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Icymanipulator
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Cautiously optimistic on this one. Played through Valkyrie Profile Lenneth on my phone last year and loved it all over again. I’m ok with the change to a more action approach. If the story is there and the game mechanics are fun I think it will be ok.
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After watching the video, it doesn’t seem like your einherjar play as much of a role. Only ever saw her summon 1 guy at a time. Where’s the team? I am cool with it being more real-time action, but not having a group of einherjar to summon and control is worrying.
Hopefully more info later will expand on this. But 1 at a time summon makes this no different then any other action game. Graphically I don’t care it looks fine, but if the game isn’t there mechanically then all bets are off. I don’t want to write the game off tho, so fingers crossed for more information.
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After watching the video, it doesn’t seem like your einherjar play as much of a role. Only ever saw her summon 1 guy at a time. Where’s the team? I am cool with it being more real-time action, but not having a group of einherjar to summon and control is worrying.
Hopefully more info later will expand on this. But 1 at a time summon makes this no different then any other action game. Graphically I don’t care it looks fine, but if the game isn’t there mechanically then all bets are off. I don’t want to write the game off tho, so fingers crossed for more information.
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Danjin44
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Don’t you mean Valkyrie Profile? Valkyria Chronicles is entirely different series made by Saga not Square.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Danjin44
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SlimeGooGoo
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Epic Sax CEO
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I believe that would be "TEU RABO".
Not really a matter of who is developing, more of a "how".
It really looks just a cash grab using the treadmark because of course making a true Valkyrie Profile game would be too expensive and complex.
Lethal01
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Oh boy, a friend of mine pointed something that I missed.
"Is this another person of color in a Nordic setting again?"
Who's developing this?
Man those people are insufferable, actually crying about a black character in a game.
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too much eslim
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My mistake it is not.
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killatopak
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Why you gotta do Tri Ace’s baby like this. At least give them a chance with the IP. SE always blames Tri Ace for bad sales but doesn’t really give them the necessary budget and time to succeed.
I have no problem with the graphics. I guess turning into action just means I can’t do all the crazy combo and visuals associated with it. Not sure if you can combo beautifully with a party in real time action. Also, can you even do cool stuff like Nibelung Valesti here?
I have no problem with the graphics. I guess turning into action just means I can’t do all the crazy combo and visuals associated with it. Not sure if you can combo beautifully with a party in real time action. Also, can you even do cool stuff like Nibelung Valesti here?
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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Oh boy, a friend of mine pointed something that I missed.
"Is this another person of color in a Nordic setting again?"
Who's developing this?
It reminds me of Battlefield V... some certain team have a color soldiers.... not gonna say more words.
Barakov
Gold Member
Honestly, I'd love a Valkyrie Profile 1 style rpg but it probably wouldn't fly in this day and age of normies having a low bar for actual gameplay.
Ferdimage
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I feel you man
NeoIkaruGAF
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All I see in the trailer is SQEX’s take on Elden Ring, lol. From the settings to the enemies, looks like a stylized From game with more dynamic combat.
Hobbygaming
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I'm a graphics whore but I tend to like the stories in these kind of games and the gameplay looks good and flashy
It kinda reminded me of Nier Automata in a great way
Quite a new dev studio afaik
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SOLEIL｜make the world smile with games developed with a passion burning in our hearts
Soleil Ltd. developing Ninjala, NARUTO TO BORUTO: SHINBO STRIKER, SAMURAI JACK: BATTLE THROUGH TIME and some other action games for console.
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SilentUser
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This new Valkyrie title was such a massive letdown. Bad looking game coupled with generic gameplay and strange movements. They actually made me sad when they revealed it
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Nannnn.... it screams PS2!
FF12 HD looks way better than that (even FFX HD), why? How much? 40, 50, 60 euros?
SeraphJan
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Going low budget makes more sense in the current meta. The last time SE made a huge budget game (FFXV?), people gives way to much shit, complained bad game play.
Since good game play is cheered over high production value, instead of making one game that you had no idea whether it will success or not, why not make 20 games at the same cost of one AAA and see if any one of them click with people.
"Oh but why not just make an AAA game with good game play?" Whether gameplay is good or not is subjective, not that devs or publishers wants to make "bad" gameplay on purpose.
Its not that I like the direction they are going, but that's just the reality of the current meta, people prefer to praise unmeasurable quality over measurable quality. I predict more company will start this practice of release low budget game in short amount of window model in the following years.
Since good game play is cheered over high production value, instead of making one game that you had no idea whether it will success or not, why not make 20 games at the same cost of one AAA and see if any one of them click with people.
"Oh but why not just make an AAA game with good game play?" Whether gameplay is good or not is subjective, not that devs or publishers wants to make "bad" gameplay on purpose.
Its not that I like the direction they are going, but that's just the reality of the current meta, people prefer to praise unmeasurable quality over measurable quality. I predict more company will start this practice of release low budget game in short amount of window model in the following years.
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YeulEmeralda
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh boy, a friend of mine pointed something that I missed.
"Is this another person of color in a Nordic setting again?"
Who's developing this?
Is this supposed to be Hrist ?
Punished Miku
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It's the new Valhalla Game Studio that Itagaki founded and then resigned from, then merged with Soleil Studio. There are some devs with action game experience on major titles quietly making a living over there.Quite a new dev studio afaik
SOLEIL｜make the world smile with games developed with a passion burning in our hearts
Soleil Ltd. developing Ninjala, NARUTO TO BORUTO: SHINBO STRIKER, SAMURAI JACK: BATTLE THROUGH TIME and some other action games for console.
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Faithless83
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At least we got 2 great Valkyrie Profile games, and a decent turn based strategy one... right guys?
Fbh
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Looking at the trailer again, hopefully there's a mod on PC to remove the black outline. It weirdly makes it look even cheaper than it already does.
lol they actually made a Naruto game. Probably recycled the "ninja run" animation from there
Quite a new dev studio afaik
SOLEIL｜make the world smile with games developed with a passion burning in our hearts
Soleil Ltd. developing Ninjala, NARUTO TO BORUTO: SHINBO STRIKER, SAMURAI JACK: BATTLE THROUGH TIME and some other action games for console.
lol they actually made a Naruto game. Probably recycled the "ninja run" animation from there
Kokoloko85
Member
I thought Valkyrie Profile was always action RPG just like the Tales combat system
Faithless83
Banned
Play it if you can, you're in for a nice surprise.
Shouta
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Turn-based battles but there was a small action component. Characters were assigned to a button and pressing it caused them to attack. You can press them in any order to combo them. They were usually limited to 3 attacks per character but like mages had one big spell, etc.
Pejo
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It was turn based combo combat. That Indivisible game pretty much copied the combat from VP.
JunkerWoland
Member
I can't shake the notion this is Square Enix trying to replicate the Nier phenomenon with the Valkyrie franchise, except this doesn't appear to have a strong creator, like Yoko Taro, guiding the project or a developer with a somewhat decent track record, like Platinum on the more recent titles in the Nier franchise.
Even if it launches late in the year, the projected 2022 release suggests this first trailer is a good representation of the final product, which appears to be an incredibly bland hack-n-slash. The existence of a PS4 version also makes me think people shouldn't expect anything overly ambitious. Maybe the game will be fun, but I have low expectations.
Even if it launches late in the year, the projected 2022 release suggests this first trailer is a good representation of the final product, which appears to be an incredibly bland hack-n-slash. The existence of a PS4 version also makes me think people shouldn't expect anything overly ambitious. Maybe the game will be fun, but I have low expectations.
Pejo
Member
I mean that's what draws your suspicion? This looks like cross gen from PS3, I doubt anybody else is worried that the PS4 version is the thing that's holding it back.
This is just really unfortunate, it's a lose/lose for VP fans. We get a game that scratches none of the itches of the original series, it's low/dubious quality, it won't sell so S-E won't take future chances on the VP IP. Just sucks all around.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, this is the same case as The Third Birthday, not what I wanted out of a new Parasite Eve game, but since it's the only thing we get, no other choice.
The existence of a PS4 version means nothing, GT7, Horizon FW are also on PS4 and look/feel great on whatever console they're on.
This just looks like a low budget product and the IP being handed off to an untested new studio.
JunkerWoland
Member
What I'm suggesting is the game's likely a modestly-budgeted PS4 title that is just happening to bridge the generational gap. Even titles like GT7 and Horizon readily show their compromises on the old platform, while they also benefit from having a publisher willing to give their developers the time and money to put as much shine as possible on the last gen versions. I'm not expecting that to be the case for this Valkyrie game nor that we'll see any significant enhancements from newer hardware. Also, Soleil has been around for a few years now; they may be new-ish, but they're not untested (they're also technically owned by Tencent and have some amount of DNA from Valhalla Game Studios).
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Epic Sax CEO
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Just because it's low budget doesn't mean that it should look ugly.
I don't think the previous games had massive budgets, they just excelled in their art and design. If people don't know, the camera on the first two games that I played were fixed. This is a simple way to make your low budget game look better, you just need to show on side of the scenario and work to make those visible parts look good. A free camera that can show all and every direction is an obvious mistake that will make the game look much uglier.
No, it's not.
Fortunately this game seems to be an spin off, meaning that Square Enix may still choose to develop Valkyrie Profile Hirst.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
I really hope this will be like Valkyria Revolution, that was so atrocious and made people so mad that Sega reacted making Valkyria Chronicles 4.
lachesis
Member
So this dev also made Devil's Third (well, it's previous body VGS Japan did anyway) - which actually makes sense about their upcoming "Wanted: Dead" game.
Also they worked on Naruto to Boruto Shinobo Striker... which explains the Naruto run of the character.. LOL.
Will see how good this will turn out - but I am kinda looking forward the "Wanted: Dead" action game as well.
Also they worked on Naruto to Boruto Shinobo Striker... which explains the Naruto run of the character.. LOL.
Will see how good this will turn out - but I am kinda looking forward the "Wanted: Dead" action game as well.
Pejo
Member
Sadly I don't think there will be as much uproar about this even if it's truly terrible. S-E is just using a "throw shit at a wall and see what sticks" approach, and this one will likely slime itself right into the gutter.
