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Valve: Portal 2 will probably be our last game w/ an isolated singleplayer experience
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This one has a bit longer answer: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3408/the_cabal_valves_design_process_.phpsubversus said:
Page 2 is the most relevant.
StuBurns said:
Yeah, enjoyed the discussion.
As for F-Stop, Geoff avoids talking about the gameplay mechanics because he says Valve asked him to not go into those details as they might use them in future titles. Obviously there's the aperture connection, but you have to change the f-stop on a camera based on lighting conditions so I couldn't help but wonder if they had developed a gameplay mechanic that dealt with light.
I AM JOHN!
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Except neither of those are terrible games?Utako said:
subversus said:
F-Stop was the name of the original Portal 2 concept that was supposed to be a prequel to Portal 1, which didn't feature the "Portal" mechanic. Instead the game was based around something entirely different. The concept was scrapped after play-testers/focus groups complained that it wasn't really Portal without quantum tunneling and Glados.
It's never stated what the gameplay mechanic was, but Valve apparently was pretty stoked about it so its likely the F-Stop concept will show up in a future game.
Hmm. Seems I was beaten.
Were or weren't used? Her idea wasn't used.subversus said:
I have no idea why she left, F-Stop was greenlite and she moved on to L4D, then L4D2 and didn't work on Portal 2, maybe she was waiting around for a studio to give her a project of her own, but she said she left because she had friends at Airtight Games.
butter_stick
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Clott said:
So are their focused co-op experiences. L4D2 and Portal 2 both have fantastic co-op.
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God damn, Valve. Don't do this.
With that said, I think that this won't make it through, just like Portal 2's initial concept. Maybe what will happen is that HL3 will have independent SP and a separate co-op campaign.
Or just SP, both work for me.
With that said, I think that this won't make it through, just like Portal 2's initial concept. Maybe what will happen is that HL3 will have independent SP and a separate co-op campaign.
Or just SP, both work for me.
I'm not sure why people are worried, when was the last time they released a game that didn't have a multiplayer component or wasn't released alongside a multiplayer game? Half-Life 1. Every game they've released since then has either had multiplayer or was developed and released alongside a multiplayer game. I think they've proven that they can develop great singleplayer and multiplayer games at the same time. I don't know why people would expect that to change.
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Spire said:
Uh, no. What about Half-Life 2.
Oh, and HL2 Deathmatch was a standalone title.
Juan29.zapata said:
Counter-Strike: Source was released with HL2.
Oh, I misread it. How that effects Half-Life, I don't know, but I'm reminded of that game they were involved with where the single-player experience was altered and affected by what other people were doing online. I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
EDIT: Oh, "The Crossing".
whalleywhat
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Remember when video games were for the friendless? What's even happening?
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Spire said:
Crap, I guess that Portal 1 doesn't count, then?
firehawk12
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Half Life hat-based MMO confirmed.
Pinko Marx
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HL3 is gunna be an MMO type deal where you play a soldier in Gordon Freeman's army trying to overthrow the Combine menace. You heard it here first.
SirIgbyCeaser
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How could valve make more money than they did with Orange box? Make Half-Life 3 with Counter-Strike 2 and a another portal game spin off.
Or something compelling and original is good too.
Or something compelling and original is good too.
Kitschkraft
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I personally have been moving away from all the online/multiplayer/coop stuff this gen and will probably continue to do so in the future. I just want to be absorbed in interesting worlds, without dealing with others. Sure, playing socially has it's place, hell most people seem to prefer it, but I don't get the same sense of escapism or immersion with other people involved. Gaming with others often feels like a chore for me.
This hurts coming from Valve, as they are one of the few companies I felt might have had a shot at being, I dunno, a bit introspective maybe? Probably not the right word but whatever. I just don't want the rest of their games to be about dealing with some jackass sluring me over a microphone.
Just my two cents. I'm sure this statement was misleading on some level, but I will definitely be frustrated if it's not just me and Alyx in Ep. 3.
This hurts coming from Valve, as they are one of the few companies I felt might have had a shot at being, I dunno, a bit introspective maybe? Probably not the right word but whatever. I just don't want the rest of their games to be about dealing with some jackass sluring me over a microphone.
Just my two cents. I'm sure this statement was misleading on some level, but I will definitely be frustrated if it's not just me and Alyx in Ep. 3.
VGChampion
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Co-op is fine by me. As long as I can still play a game in SP I'll be fine. Valve is actually one of the only developers who can make a SP campaign that I'm fine playing by myself which I find amazing.
Kind of thought they may be playing more into multiplayer though after the Portal 2 box art.
Why would the option to play coop matter if you can still play through SP by yourself? It doesn't hurt.
Kind of thought they may be playing more into multiplayer though after the Portal 2 box art.
MMaRsu said:
Why would the option to play coop matter if you can still play through SP by yourself? It doesn't hurt.
i'd say catering to someone with no previous experience to the franchise would definitely hurt the solo play experienceStuBurns said:
particularly, people WITH previous experience
you know, their fanbase
anyways this comment really gives me the impression valve said it to geoff to fish and gauge reactions more than anything
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can you imagine what a co-op only EP3 campaign would be like tho?
I'm the type of guy who likes to complete games in one long-ass sitting. It'd force me to team up with someone who very likely would have their own life and schedule going on and I wouldn't be able to beat it when I want to beat it. This I think would be the worst failing in a co-op campaign.
I'm the type of guy who likes to complete games in one long-ass sitting. It'd force me to team up with someone who very likely would have their own life and schedule going on and I wouldn't be able to beat it when I want to beat it. This I think would be the worst failing in a co-op campaign.
darkpaladinmfc
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Forced co-op also screws up atmosphere, breaks immersion, and forces things such as making sure Alyx/Gordon never get split up by any meaningful distance or in any meaningful way. I completely trust Valve, and don't think they will screw up Episode 3, especially after all the years we've been waiting.Jenga said:
The Librarian
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I'm really not concerned what Valve does going forward, I just want HL3. The wait is killing me.
The Broken Ska Record
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While I trust Valve's competence in making a MP component, I don't want the next HL game to not have a good SP.
darkpaladinmfc
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2 hours early on a work day late into the night, after hints it'll release 5 days early.Blizzard said: