Lord of Castamere
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I kinda agree with this. If EA thinks they can pump out another 2 year BF title next year and compete with a 3 year'd Treyarch COD I feel they are going to have a rude awakening.
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Visceral goes over feedback received from Battlefield: Hardline beta
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I kinda agree with this. If EA thinks they can pump out another 2 year BF title next year and compete with a 3 year'd Treyarch COD I feel they are going to have a rude awakening.
AgentOtaku
Member
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Everyone's spot on with the apathy comments. I was enamored with BC2, spent 162 hours in it. Got BF3, and you know it was pretty alright as well, spent another 62 hours. BF4? I played it for 10 hours, hated it, sold it off. Hardline? Couldn't even be bothered to try the Beta. And that's pretty bad, since I love trying Betas.
25/30 would still be too much for this, but people will still buy it because they're dumb
friskykillface
Banned
Well last year Battlefield 4 was $25 at wal mart just weeks after it released, was $25 on black Friday
If the Xbox one or PS4 version is $30 I'll pick it up this year
Not paying $60 but the beta was ok
If the Xbox one or PS4 version is $30 I'll pick it up this year
Not paying $60 but the beta was ok
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
EA has to be shitting their pants with the little attention BFH is receiving.
It's like nobody gives a fuck about it.
Poor Visceral
It was one of the most buzz/talked about game coming out of e3 across almost all metrics I've seen. The internet Is a big place my friend.
shinobi602
Member
I want this so bad. I enjoyed the original game quite a bit. GOW clone but it was damn serviceable.
boredofcanada
Member
This game is gonna bomb for EA. It'll actually sell a lot, but not for EA standards. Then they will blame it on Visceral, and goodbye Visceral. Sad but true.
njean777
Member
EA has to be shitting their pants with the little attention BFH is receiving.
It's like nobody gives a fuck about it.
Poor Visceral
The cynic in me says they will close Visceral when this game does poorly (due to BF4, and them being stupid and trying to force another BF game down our throats when one is not needed), and I for one will be super pissed.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Really? This was the most polished BF game I've every played, and that was 4 months from release. BF3's beta ended 2 weeks before release and had a massive glitch that put you under the map by just playing it, no exploiting needed.
Spot on.
I played about 13 hours of it and i really don't see how its a mod. Almost everything feels different. The guns handle differently, the theme is completely different which also means the vehicles and gadgets are differnet (zip lining across building or using a grapple hook to get to many different spots). The game modes are also pretty different., the game runs better than BF4, the unlock system is 10x better than bf4 and the battlepack system. It gets pretty hectic when both teams actually know how to play and your trying to do everything you can to stop that bag from getting to its destination. Oh, and the one map we had in the beta was great too. 3 skyscrapers with elevators to the top and a 4th with a helicopter on top.
Also, its pretty weird how people somehow know exactly how much content is in the game.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
"Our genius idea to make a yearly rehash of Battlefield failed, it must be this critically acclaimed developers fault!"
I despise publishers sometimes.
spindoctor
Member
Did you ever play Desert Combat for Battlefield 1942? That was a mod that changed more than Hardline does. Only thing it didn't have was a campaign because people play Battlefield for multiplayer.
Any half decent total conversion changes more than this game does. It's a shame people have completely forgotten what modders were capable of doing before the industry crippled modding.
Heh so little attention it is getting and we know why.
secondspace
Member
People thought this about the last MoH.
So someone at work told me i cannot judge a game after spending playing it for 4 hours orso. Well i can BF4 was one of the worst i played in a long longtime. And he said he played 1000 hours and i said so what's the difference? I spend a lot of money on it and i expect at least it works good from the start. Yes bugs will be there, no nothing is perfect but i do want to see that it just works from the get go even after 4 hours and nothing is still not working properly i am just done and will not go back to it even when they say they fixed nearly 7/8 fucking months later it's pathetic. I paid 120 euro's for BF4 and got shit for granded instead.
Lord of Castamere
Member
MoH:WF was bad game that got critically panned because EA was stupid with it's review copies which forced the reviewers to review the SP solely.
I don't think we know enough about Hardline to really draw comparisons yet.
I just wish DICE would have fired whoever does their menus and hired the MoH person. In comparison to BF3/4 MoH:WF had some damn good menus and party management from what I remember.
If I had to decide between getting BF4 and Hardline, I'd buy the latter. IMHO Visceral's Beta worked better than DICE's BF4 more than half a year post launch.
But I just got a PS4 with BF4 + Premium a month ago and do not feel the need to shove just one more cent down into EA's throat for a while. I'll be waiting for Battlefront to cave in.
You should know that the netcode is still the same as it was with the release of BF4 in Hardline. It's beta yes but not the new netcode was used unlike in BF4.
test_account
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How much content does this game have? That it is a mod seems pretty irrelevant to me, its the amount of content that matters.
Reviews of Warfighter's MP would not have done its Metacritic score any favors.
I have both simultaneously.
just popping in to say no.
I loved the beta, played it for hours. exhilarating stuff. if you ask me, most of the hate for this game is residual bf4/ea soreness.
but believe it or not, visceral has what looks to be a great game here. well worth a full retail sku.
I said it when I saw the blog post. It's good that they're taking my critic (which seemed to be popular?) on having a "handbrake"/drifting ability in cars. Makes no damn sense to have a cops and robbers/urban environment title with cars where you can't do that at high-speeds.
Now if they fix the motorcycles to not be "on rails"
and handle like a motorcycle (similar to MotoGP?) vehicles would be a step up from the infantry vehicles that BF normally has.
Doesn't fix the--
--Hahahahahahahahaha. No. As someone that has put in 800 hours into BF4 and has played it for FAR longer than most of GAF (and put up with it willingly), no. This game feels like a "mod" to BF4 and doesn't fix some of the issues that has and in-fact brings MORE issues in regards to gameplay with it.
Like I was saying: It doesn't fix the fact that the two modes they introduced were HORRIBLE, they don't differentate themselves enough Rush/CTF (Heist), Conquest/CTF (Blood Money) enough to be "WOW THAT'S WORTH IT."
Also the map is TERRIBLE for the modes (and probably just a bad map in general) You can literally take B bag from the bridge to B point in minutes with the zipline via the roof of the one building north of the robbers on that map. Unless the cops purposely camp and spawn trap the robbers, the robbers can literally end the matches in minutes on Heist. How is that good/worth $60?
They need another "beta"/possible closed-CTE a la BF4's CTE to get feedback from those of us in the BF community that WANT the game to improve/care about it. Because as it is: I'm not alone (BF community, talking about) in this feeling.
Good that you like it right now, but you're in the minority it seems.
Now if they fix the motorcycles to not be "on rails"
despite me liking that kinda
Doesn't fix the--
'tanooki27 said:
--Hahahahahahahahaha. No. As someone that has put in 800 hours into BF4 and has played it for FAR longer than most of GAF (and put up with it willingly), no. This game feels like a "mod" to BF4 and doesn't fix some of the issues that has and in-fact brings MORE issues in regards to gameplay with it.
Like I was saying: It doesn't fix the fact that the two modes they introduced were HORRIBLE, they don't differentate themselves enough Rush/CTF (Heist), Conquest/CTF (Blood Money) enough to be "WOW THAT'S WORTH IT."
Also the map is TERRIBLE for the modes (and probably just a bad map in general) You can literally take B bag from the bridge to B point in minutes with the zipline via the roof of the one building north of the robbers on that map. Unless the cops purposely camp and spawn trap the robbers, the robbers can literally end the matches in minutes on Heist. How is that good/worth $60?
They need another "beta"/possible closed-CTE a la BF4's CTE to get feedback from those of us in the BF community that WANT the game to improve/care about it. Because as it is: I'm not alone (BF community, talking about) in this feeling.
Good that you like it right now, but you're in the minority it seems.
BigJonsson
Member
I actually really like BF4 but Hardline doesn't look different enough to purchase at launch for full price
Yeah, it seems like a lot of the "it feels like a BF4 mod" talk is coming from actual BF4 fans. I've put 400+ hours into BF4 across three platforms (360, PS4, and PC) and while I think hardline is fun it doesn't do anything different enough to make me want to buy it or even play it over BF4. BF4 is quite simply better.
I feel like EA is trying too hard to push this series to a yearly release like CoD but they simply do not have the studio muscle and streamlined pipeline to get it done. They're pushing Dice to release unfinished games and pushing their other studios into pushing out something smaller and too unfinished that is undeserving to be up against CoD. Dice can handle it if given the time, but I feel like this game is going to be another train wreck for different reasons than BF4's launch.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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$60 for a bf4 skin a la Counter Strike? No Thanks. This should be a free dlc for everyone after the disastrous bf launch
Thats why if they are sane it will be Battlefield: Star Wars versus Black Ops 3. The Star Wars franchise the only thing keeping them alive.
Its why BF3 is better. It wasnt being made for 5 platforms. They could for the most part handle the time crunch.
Man, I think this game is going to bomb spectacularly. I feel badly because I actually really like Visceral, but them trying to pull off a mod of BF4 as a full priced release in an October packed with way better offerings is a recipe for disaster.
I know EA's expectations are low, but I'd be surprised if this sold more than 5 million by the end of the holidays.
I know EA's expectations are low, but I'd be surprised if this sold more than 5 million by the end of the holidays.
I bought bf3 than the pumped out a million paid contents which turned me off than bf4 is out shortly after which fuck that clearly its going to be rushed turns out I was right so never touched that and now they want me to care about this new one shortly after that?
Prove to me its a good game with a fair price. Only then will I even take a look past that scripted e3 shit
Prove to me its a good game with a fair price. Only then will I even take a look past that scripted e3 shit
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Visceral should have made something original. Hardline will flop. Between Destiny and Advanced Warfare it'll be forgotten within a month. The beta felt sloppy.
I love the first Dead Space. Make more in that vein of games.
I totally agree with this, EA would have to be stupid not to hitch their wagon onto the EPVII hype to drive sales of Battlefront. The only flaw in this plan I can see is if EPVII gets delayed into 2016, wit either screws up the launch date for the game or it might give DICE some time to polish Battlefront for a later release.
As for BF: Hardline, watching the videos of the Beta has not got me interested in the slightest. Put about 300 hours into BF3 and about 150 into BF4 and it has completely burnt me out. Shame really because Visceral deserves better than this.
Same
YES! one of my favorites from past gen. Loved it.