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Volcanion - 721st Pokémon Officially Revealed
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It's literally a matter of multiplying 0.5, 1, 2, or 0.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Well, I mean, in the 1st gen, we had an entire type that effectively had no weakness (Psychic) along with Gyarados not being Water/Dragon, Kangaskan not being Rock type, Nidoking/Queen being Ground/Poison (which isn't readily apparent). Starmie being Water/Psychic isn't obvious. How many people fought Misdreavous and though Psychic was super effective because they didn't know Gengar was weak to Psychic because of his poison typing? Who even knew what Ghost was weak to in Gen I? Cloyster is Water/Ice for some reason.
Let's not pretend the first gen didn't have strange typings that didn't make sense at first glance or had readily apparent weaknesses or resistances.
Literally the first Pokemon in the Pokedex is Grass/Poison. Which btw, isn't really an obvious combination for Bulbasaur either.
avrophantasm
Member
The Fire/Water typing is interesting...
...but it's an uggo donut turtle.
...but it's an uggo donut turtle.
balladofwindfishes
Member
How in the world is Bug/Dark not used yet lol. Of all the vile, gross, "evil" bugs in the real world...
Fire/Grass could be a fun Pokemon too. They could either take the idea of a forest fire and go with it, or even the concept of a poisonous plant that "burns" skin.
Fire/Grass could be a fun Pokemon too. They could either take the idea of a forest fire and go with it, or even the concept of a poisonous plant that "burns" skin.
linkandzelda
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Outdated.
Fire/Water, Dragon/Grass, Fairy/Dragon and Psychic/Ghost have since been used.
Alternate form of Rotom
Rotom is an Electric/Ghost that can inhabit machines that have motors. Specifically Ovens, Fridges, Lawnmowers, Fans and Washing Machines. Secondary type changes to Fire, Ice, Grass, Flying and Water respectively.
No fan of the design, but not gonna preach the superiority of gen 1. Cuz gen 3 is the best designwise. And I love Hoopa's design. And Cinccino. And Pangoro. And Porygon Z. Heck, cool stuff everywhere.
Hey, Joe, care to clarify the "issues at conception"? Curious as to what you mean.
Hey, Joe, care to clarify the "issues at conception"? Curious as to what you mean.
I don't know why I thought there was only wash, heat and cut Rotom. Maybe I blocked it from my mind.
The game has to be coded in anticipation of it in case people get the Pokémon then delete the patch.
Provisions have to be made for compatibility with games that don't have it loaded too.
They can't just add them to the generation now, they have to have planned to do it that way from the outset. ORAS has some things that could be adapted into it, but yeah
Some of these seem like things we should totally have by now
Ice
Ice/Fire-Some kind of eternally melting creature with fire power would be cool
Electric
Electric/Psychic-No electric wizard or an electric demon with psychic powers or something along those lines yet...
Electric/Dark-LUXRAY WHY
Grass
Grass/Fire-GOURGEIST WHY
Fighting
Fighting/Electric-Also weird to think we don't have a super fast lightning based fighter.
Fighting/Ground-Or a fighter which fights using the earth around it-basically an earthbender
Psychic
Psychic/Poison-Surprised we don't have a poison wizard archetype pokemon yet
Bug
Bug/Ice-Are there bugs which live in very cold climates? If so base one off that.
Bug/Dragon-YANMEGA WHY
Bug/Dark-DRAPION WHY
Rock
Rock/Poison-We somehow don't have a corrupted golem monster pokemon.
Fairy
Fairy/Poison-How do you introduce a new fairy type and not have a corrupted/poisoned fairy?
Saucycarpdog
Member
Personally, I dislike the design. The newer pokemon designs seem to be going the Square Enix route with of overstylization. The most memorable designs have always been the simple ones.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
I haven't looked at Volcanion since the initial leaks that were just standard res 3DS screens.
I like it better than I did then. Diancie and Hoopa are definitely better than Volcanion in terms of G6 mythicals.
I like it better than I did then. Diancie and Hoopa are definitely better than Volcanion in terms of G6 mythicals.
Crash Station
Member
Wow, more than I thought. Which of those would be a really OP typing?
Me too
You know what I meant, c'mon..
balladofwindfishes
Member
yep also nostalgia is a hell of a reality distorting drug
There are the Grylloblattidae. Not super-interesting but they do live in the cold.
Corvo Jensen
Banned
there are 721 now??? isn't there like a huge overlap by now?
Overlap in what way?
I actually have to agree with joe on this one. Pokémon designs have been rather consistent since its inception. There are about five to ten designs I absolutely love per generation, the vast majority are filler to me, and a dozen or so are memorably bad or stale. It's always been like that.
people love to pretend like gen I-III were this masterclass of fake animal/monster designs, rather than just having the few they remember the most fondly.
people love to pretend like gen I-III were this masterclass of fake animal/monster designs, rather than just having the few they remember the most fondly.
That's always been an issue. For example, the Gen 1 Normal/Flying Pokemon long suffered from all being very similar with Dodrio easily being the best in both movepool and stats.
The rumors says to anticipate stuff for the anniversary.
Makes sense. Never thought of the possibility of deleting the patch...
I'd seriously love to peek at an alternate dimension where Voltorb/Electrode were released in a late gen.
I understand not liking the design direction of recent gens(tbh, not a big fan myself of some pokes from newer games, but there are also plenty of meh pokes from older games), but I don't get "they're out of ideas"
If we're gonna mention about lack of Ideas can we at least talk about the earlygame bird pokemon every gen and not the legendary pokemon with a new typing and strange donut...? lol
If we're gonna mention about lack of Ideas can we at least talk about the earlygame bird pokemon every gen and not the legendary pokemon with a new typing and strange donut...? lol
balladofwindfishes
Member
But the early game bird is fire type this time around.
Change your WiFi SSID to "McDonalds Free WiFi" (exactly, without the quotes) and turn off the password. Your 3DS will be tricked into thinking you're actually at a McDonald's, and then you can get Hoopa via internet mystery gift on as many Pokemon games as you have.
If you don't have access to mess with your router settings I will give you my spare. (But only if there's no way, not if you're too scared to turn off wifi security for 5 minutes.)
wait, what the hell is Fairy/Dragon? (EDIT: It's Mega Altaria. TIL)
Lucky Seven
Banned
Is it going to have its own in-game event? I dont remember any happening in XY.
FunkyDealer
Banned
Is there a place where you can read who the designers for different Pokémon are? Because it seems like you can tell the original designers apart based on the style.
We've known about it thanks to hackers and cheaters for a couple of years now. This is the first official unveiling of it.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Like, that Pokémon would actually look somewhat decent without the dumb water airtube bagel thing sticking out of it. The most memorable Pokémon are the one's that have simplicity in design. Instead with recent stuff we get something that looks like someone tried to mash as many 3D objects together in a weird way. Volcanion is a decent Pokémon name, why can't the design reinforce that fact?
Orochinagis
Member
I want to believe, hard, is some kind of tortoise.
fused with a Donut, kamen rider and metal, scrappy metal
fused with a Donut, kamen rider and metal, scrappy metal
DeviousAngel
Member
I think his design is kinda cool when you realize that donut is actually a pair of "arms." I kinda wish his legs looked more like the donut arms though. It would cement the design.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I like it now after seeing its official art rather than the scan. The scan makes it look hilarious, now it looks like a fierce mecha shisha thing.
Also you guys are bad, the gen with Tyrantrum is the gen with the best designed mons.
Impressive, ripping off Toriyama and looking shit at that!
Pokemon and Gaming always are a terrible combo.
que
I disagree on these notions.
Luxray doesn't need to be Dark just because it has dark fur.
Gourgeist doesn't really need to be Fire because it is a soul fruit.
And Bug/Dragon only works in English name. Remember only Japanese puns work!
Also you guys are bad, the gen with Tyrantrum is the gen with the best designed mons.
They don't make em like they use to.
Impressive, ripping off Toriyama and looking shit at that!
Pokemon and Gaming always are a terrible combo.
que
I disagree on these notions.
Luxray doesn't need to be Dark just because it has dark fur.
Gourgeist doesn't really need to be Fire because it is a soul fruit.
And Bug/Dragon only works in English name. Remember only Japanese puns work!
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Bumping because news
Volcanion is in the next movie.
Also Squishy is still part of the gang.
Volcanion is in the next movie.
Also Squishy is still part of the gang.