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[Yoboman]

According to Alex from Digital Foundry, it is dynamic 4k:

Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]

Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.

forum.beyond3d.com

Footage is from Series X, no word on PS5

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Lower than I thought but I guess that's expected with Watch Dogs

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Credit to THEAP99

According to Alex from Digital Foundry, it is dynamic 4k:

Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]

Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.

forum.beyond3d.com

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Beat me to it.

 

[Denton]

Wait, so basically it runs 1440p at 30fps? Are there any other framerate and graphics modes on nextgen consoles?

 

[diffusionx]

OH NO NO NO hahaha

The power of console RDNA2

 

[Unknown?]

OH NO NO NO hahaha

The power of console RDNA2

Should have gone with RDNA3 features.

 

[danielJackson]

Actually good..better than wasting resources on native 4k. I hope all games do it on both big consoles.

But is it 720p on series s then

 

[jigglet]

No surprise. I don't understand why people are expecting these consoles to perform miracles. The XBSX is on par with the 2080 right? That struggles to run pretty much 90% of games at 4k60. Say consoles are 10-20-30% more optimised due to their closed nature, that's still miles from what is needed.

I swear people have had their heads in the sand for so long about this. IMO if you want optimal performance out of these next gen consoles 1440p is the sweet spot...just as it is on PC.

 

[Yoboman]

Wait, so basically it runs 1440p at 30fps? Are there any other framerate and graphics modes on nextgen consoles?

This would be the RT mode they showed today

 

[RoboFu]

What I expected with all that RT usage.
but like I said in the AC thread I want to see the differences in settings. Soon

 

[VFXVeteran]

I said these consoles were weak when they were released. All you had to do was compare them to the 2080Ti. And that card wasn't cutting the mustard on a lot games at 4k.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Just imagine what resolution the S is running at

 

[M_A_C]

I can’t wait for the head to head comparisons. This Gen is going to be full of meltdowns.

 

[Inviusx]

Native 4k is a meme. With upscaling technology being as advanced as it is (not being noticeable without pixel counting) I would rather the devs use the horsepower of the console for other more important things.

 

[RoboFu]

I can’t wait for the head to head comparisons. This Gen is going to be full of meltdowns.

it’s going to be glorious

 

[Senua]

The 4k 60fps gen is here.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

This game admittedly looks much better on PC when playing it directly rather than watching recorded footage of it on YouTube (duh!). However, it's still ridiculous that even a Ryzen 3950X combined with an RTX 3090 and 64GBs of DDR4 can't run this game in 4K with maximum settings (without ray tracing) at sixty frames per second; the frame rate ranges from the mid forties to mid fifties most of the time, occasionally hitting 58 to 60 frames per second.

 

[01011001]

Just imagine what resolution the S is running at

dynamic 1440p most likely. will go down to 900p I would assume.

it could also be that it has reduced raytracing fidelity and can therefore hold its resolution a bit better.

 

[FunkMiller]

The way the wind has gone out of the sails over in the Valhalla is upscaled 4k on Ps5 thread is a sight to behold...

 

[Elias]

The rush to post this lol. Higher resolutions thab 1440p with heavy use of ray tracing is impressive for a first go.

1280p upscaled for PS5 I'm betting.

 

[Dnice123]

So they are counting pixels of the trailer? I would think DF would have a copy of the game.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Someone beat you to the punch, mate.

Watch Dogs Legions Upscaled 4k on XSX

According to Alex from Digital Foundry, it is dynamic 4k: https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/watch-dogs-legion-xo-ps4-xbsx-s-ps5-pc.61903/page-2 Footage is from Series X, no word on PS5

www.neogaf.com

 

[Proelite]

You need RTX 3090 to do 4k30 locked at ultra settings.

 

[THEAP99]

keeps expectations in check i supposed. lots of unsclaed 4k everywhere.

it's no joke when so many insiders have said the power gap is so close this time and first party content is more important than ever since the power difference isn't a main selling point no more.

i am sick of 4k being slapped on everything, fuck ubisoft

and also, that footage wasn't impressive, seemed kinda blurry anyways

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I have a feeling this gen is going to result in a record number of account suicides.

 

[Denton]

I said these consoles were weak when they were released. All you had to do was compare them to the 2080Ti. And that card wasn't cutting the mustard on a lot games at 4k.

I would not say they are weak. I mean just because they are not as fast as most expensive GPU on the market (until 3090 came out) does not mean they are weak - relative to previous gen and its jaguars and lowend radeon, these consoles are lot stronger compared to PC hardware available relative to release.

 

[01011001]

I said these consoles were weak when they were released. All you had to do was compare them to the 2080Ti. And that card wasn't cutting the mustard on a lot games at 4k.

they are not weak compared to current gen systems, now those were fucking weak when they released.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Whatever, y’all needed someone else to come up and tell you so clearly you didn’t notice it did ya?

 

[Birdo]

"Buy a 4K TV for next gen"

 

[Krisprolls]

Ah ah ah that's instant karma for you. Of course every game will be the same on both platforms.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Is this with RT, or without?

 

[01011001]

Whatever, y’all needed someone else to come up and tell you so clearly you didn’t notice it did ya?

well, youtube compression makes everything look sub 4K to be fair

Is this with RT, or without?

you can't turn off RT

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I said these consoles were weak when they were released. All you had to do was compare them to the 2080Ti. And that card wasn't cutting the mustard on a lot games at 4k.

What do you think about Watch Dogs? Does it have any right to be this taxing on hardware?

 

[M1chl]

Funny seeing those "just checkboard it bro"/"1440p is ENOUGH" being here. Just saying.

 

[baphomet]

dynamic 1440p most likely. will go down to 900p I would assume.

it could also be that it has reduced raytracing fidelity and can therefore hold its resolution a bit better.

Dynamic 1080p, reduced ray tracing, and reduced graphic detail.

 

[v_iHuGi]

I said these consoles were weak when they were released. All you had to do was compare them to the 2080Ti. And that card wasn't cutting the mustard on a lot games at 4k.

Demon Souls says these Consoles are very capable.

 

[Great Hair]

Fuck Ubisoft for lying on camera.

 

[01011001]

Dynamic 1080p, reduced ray tracing, and reduced graphic detail.

since it is dynamic 4K on SX I bet the upper limit on SS will be 1440p.
both the SX and the SS as well as the PS5 will only actually reach the upper end in scenes with very low amounts of RT effects and not much going on tho I assume.

the SS could also maybe use an agressive VRS setting in order to boost performance... but I don't know if anyone found any evidence of VRS in this trailer... not that it would be easy with all that Youtube compression

 

[LeftThumbstick]

I thought Dynamic 4K was fine? Oh right, this is about Xbox so it's now bad. Also, funny to see DF is now a trusted source once again. How the turn tables.

Funny seeing those "just checkboard it bro"/"1440p is ENOUGH" being here. Just saying.

Funny isn't it?

 

[BluRayHiDef]

You need RTX 3090 to do 4k30 locked at ultra settings.

4K30 is not cutting it; 30 frames per second feels choppy. I can tolerate fifty to fifty nine frames per second, because it still feels smooth. However, anything less than that feels choppy and obviously increasingly so as the frame rate gets lower.

So, I've settled on playing the game at 4K with maximum settings but with ray tracing turned off, and I actually have a 3090. Hopefully the game is patched in the future and becomes easier to run at maximum settings.

 

[jigglet]

Fuck Ubisoft for lying on camera.

he said the framerate was consistent not the resolution lmao

 

[v_iHuGi]

The rush to post this lol. Higher resolutions thab 1440p with heavy use of ray tracing is impressive for a first go.

1280p upscaled for PS5 I'm betting.

Bet again before you lose

 

[FlyyGOD]

OH NO NO NO hahaha

The power of console RDNA2

What is ps5 resolution and framerate?

 

[onQ123]

The game look good either way

 

[mansoor1980]

if this is with ray tracing then its fair .

 

[El Sueño]

And all the morning drama? I'm disappointed, gentlemen.

 

[Stuart360]

Like i have said numerous times, these consoles arent powerful enough for ray tracing. It should of been left for the Pro consoles, or PS6/Xbox 5

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Y'all gotta stop using Ubisoft games as a barometer for power... legit, you know this ain't the shit to do but you guys keep doing it. An RTX 3090 can barely keep this bullshit at 4k60, fuck!

Edit: I took the day off, went to Sausalito and did some day drinking... apologies, If I am coming off more aggressive than usual

 

[BigLee74]

Amazing.

Not one of these posters came out on the original 'Watchdogs with RT on XSX thread'. Despite bumping their gums for ages about no RT on XSX.

Now it's like a who's who from the next gen thread!