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What do you think MS will do with Bethesda PS/Nintendo multiplat games?

What will MS do with PS/Nintendo games in development now or later?

  • Cancel development of existing and future games

    Votes: 9 4.1%
  • Release what's being developed (ie. Deathloop), but cancel all new ones not started going forward

    Votes: 123 56.4%
  • Like Minecraft, just keep games multiplatform everywhere like nothing happened

    Votes: 86 39.4%

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Dane

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Likely Mojang scenario, too expensive to mantain as exclusive, just give the gamepass day one privilege.
 

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You don't pay 7.5 billion to only release on Xbox and PC. Will be multiplatform until they recoup some of the money.
You make it sound like Xbox+pc is a small market or anything, time to wake up. This is EXACTLY why you pay 7.5 billion but keep waiting for starfield, TES6 and more on PlayStation, I guess.
 

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Microsoft just paid 7.5B and this acquisition which made tons of $ from money-hatting games like Elder scrolls and popular IP's ( which is why it cost them so much)

This likely means they will all be moving to gamepass and making Nothing for them until/if enough new users join gamepass. They will need Nintendo and PS users to help support this Acquisition in hopes that enough new users join gamepass that they can slowly make all of the IP's exclusive. If not things will remain as they are for a while.

Microsoft could also use this as an opportunity to force a difference in multi-plat versions and make sure that the S&X version is better then the PS5 version.

So it will be interesting to keep an eye on the employees at Bethesda and see if they start jumping ship.
 
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You make it sound like Xbox+pc is a small market or anything, time to wake up. This is EXACTLY why you pay 7.5 billion but keep waiting for starfield, TES6 and more on PlayStation, I guess.
Small enough that it would matter. There is a reason Bethesda originally left PC gamers as 2nd class citizens after Oblivion; the console market was more profitable than PC. And Playstation is now the majority of the home console market.

Look, this is a toss up. i am not saying multiplat is guaranteed, just that this is an actual option Microsoft could take. Because the amount of money they paid for Bethesda is more money than Xbox division had. Just as was the case with Minecraft. It depends on what Microsoft view as priority... Getting their money back, or grow Xbox?
 

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They will at the very least be Timed Exclusives like 1 year. Most likely will be outright exclusives.
 
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Fulcizombie

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Microsoft just paid 7.5B and this acquisition which made tons of $ from money-hatting games like Elder scrolls and popular IP's ( which is why it cost them so much)

This likely means they will all be moving to gamepass and making Nothing for them until/if enough new users join gamepass. They will need Nintendo and PS users to help support this Acquisition in hopes that enough new users join gamepass that they can slowly make all of the IP's exclusive. If not things will remain as they are for a while.

Microsoft could also use this as an opportunity to force a difference in multi-plat versions and make sure that the S&X version is better then the PS5 version.

So it will be interesting to keep an eye on the employees at Bethesda and see if they start jumping ship.
Why would they jump ship ? Are they Sony fanatics or something ? Apparently every studio that MS has bought thus far has seen employees getting a raise and each studio hiring more people. Bethesda is a pc company first anyway with most of its franchises being pc-centric. Some of the takes here are hilarious.
 

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There should be an option where some of the multiplat games at the end of the development will be released on al platforms and then keep unannounced games for themselves.
 

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For Starfield, my guess is gamepass only for one year and then on PS5, digital only for $74.99 after.
 

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They'll oblige existing contractual obligations.
Once the games already in development are out, who knows.
 
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So when Sony buys a dev its totally okay for their games to be PS exclusive. MS buys a dev and people are begging for the games to be multiplatform. Nice double standard.
Double Standard that Microsoft themselves enforced. Minecraft would have been a very powerful Xbox exclusive, that fact that it still isn't means something else is happening.
 
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Small enough that it would matter. There is a reason Bethesda originally left PC gamers as 2nd class citizens after Oblivion; the console market was more profitable than PC. And Playstation is now the majority of the home console market.

Look, this is a toss up. i am not saying multiplat is guaranteed, just that this is an actual option Microsoft could take. Because the amount of money they paid for Bethesda is more money than Xbox division had. Just as was the case with Minecraft. It depends on what Microsoft view as priority... Getting their money back, or grow Xbox?
How do you know how much money the Xbox division has ? MS is trying to destroy google, amazon e.t.c before they even enter gaming streaming. MS is trying to build the biggest gaming subscription service. Ms is releasing the most powerful console at the same price with the vastly inferior ps5 so they are interested in gaining marketshare in console gaming. The majority of home console gaming is pc+Xbox+switch +mobile, not PlayStation. Gamepass has just reached 15 million users and that is just the beginning.

Best case scenario, a release of some big titles on the playstation one year after they have been released on gamepass.

I am sure MS will be looking Sony doing stuff like FFXVI and do nothing.
 
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How do you know how much money the Xbox division has ? MS is trying to destroy google, amazon e.t.c before they even enter gaming streaming. MS is trying to build the biggest gaming subscription service. Ms is releasing the most powerful console at the same price with the vastly inferior ps5 so they are interested in gaining marketshare in console gaming. The majority of home console gaming is pc+Xbox+switch +mobile, not PlayStation. Gamepass has just reached 15 million users and that is just the beginning.

Best case scenario, a release of some big titles on the playstation one year after they have been released on gamepass.

I am sure MS will be looking Sony doing stuff like FFXVI and do nothing.
You still haven't responded to my point about Minecraft.

We will see where the marbles land. But at this point i consider Bethesda's purchase a good thing as the company really needed a shakeup.
 

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Why would they jump ship ? Are they Sony fanatics or something ? Apparently every studio that MS has bought thus far has seen employees getting a raise and each studio hiring more people. Bethesda is a pc company first anyway with most of its franchises being pc-centric. Some of the takes here are hilarious.


If you are going to cut support for other platforms you will normally have staff reductions and you should see people begin to leave to other companies long before they are fired.
 

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Let's face it, Microsoft is making a huge amount of BANK by letting games like Minecraft(especially Minecraft), Cuphead and the Ori games come to the Nintendo Switch.
I think that "good will" between the two companies will continue. MS and Sony have their nukes aimed at each other, NOT Nintendo. So I think we'll still see a "working
relationship" between MS and Nintendo.

I tell you what though, all of a sudden Gamepass on the Nintendo Switch would be a MEGATON.

 

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You still haven't responded to my point about Minecraft.

We will see where the marbles land. But at this point i consider Bethesda's purchase a good thing as the company really needed a shakeup.
What point ? Minecraft isn’t doom, TES, Fallout just like it isn’t Halo, Gears, Hellblade, Fable, Forza e.t.c Bethesda makes games just like the Xbox division does. There is no point, minecraft is an everygreen title that is completely different to just about anything else on the market. You want to believe that Sony will be paying money hats to secure exclusives and MS will be releasing its biggest titles on the PlayStation , then be my guest, we will see what will happen. People are seriously overestimating the exclusive PlayStation userbase but what’s new ?

This is like the 13 TF ps5, the «gamepass will have no AAA games» e.t.c and more discussions in the past threads.
 

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If you are going to cut support for other platforms you will normally have staff reductions and you should see people begin to leave to other companies long before they are fired.
Yep, just like what is happening with every studio MS is buying. I bet that MS will hire more people for the Bethesda studios that they bought. Cutting support from playsation means nothing, gaming is changing.
 

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I guess we will see if MS's messaging from a month or two back about not caring about selling you consoles is still real or not!
If they do care about you buying an Xbox - most or all future projects will be console exclusive for Xbox.
If they actually don't care about that and just want to get game sales and gamepass revenue, then I would expect to see future games still come out on Playstation, but obviously with the "but you could play this on Game Pass on the Xbox without having to buy a $70 game" messaging!
 
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People here saying they shouldn’t be exclusive we’re some of the same people cheerleading a Spider-Man IP exclusive lol.

They will release whatever’s in development for all while the rest stay exclusive. They might release them everywhere while day 1 them on gamepass for Xbox. But then who would want to buy them for ps5? It be cheaper to buy an xss or XSX with gamepass then it would be to buy 4 or 5 of their games on a Ps5/ps4

Final Fantasy last week also

All this hypocrisy stuff is nothing new, we once had a petition signed by thousands to stop Capcom releasing DMC 4 on Xbox 360!
 

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There's people way above the XBox division's power and influence who aren't going to allow the company to turn down the profits these titles will still generate on PS5, Nintendo, PC, etc.

Basically you'll still see every Fallout/Doom/Elder Scrolls on Playstation for decades to come.
 
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You make it sound like Xbox+pc is a small market or anything, time to wake up. This is EXACTLY why you pay 7.5 billion but keep waiting for starfield, TES6 and more on PlayStation, I guess.
I'm insulted you'd think I care about Playstation from that post.
 

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They'd be stupid to not have the huge games like Fallout and TES as timed exclusives at the very least, those will move consoles.
 

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My very limited and ignorant opinion is that surely MS would make more money having Elder Scrolls multiplat
 

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By denying PlayStation say, TES6, they could loose potentially 15-20 million unit sales. Anywhere around 500million-1billion usd.

No idea if MS would do that. And if it will be worth it.
 

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-All Bethesda games will now be totally console exclusive, no mercy.

-All upcoming Bethesda games will immediately change their development to become cinematic, third-person, hold-your-hand gameplay and have stupid banter.
Wolfenstein and Doom as well, no exception.

-All previously released games are being removed from BC, a few older games will be re-released as new remakes and cost 70$.

oh sorry I thought Bethesda was bought by Sony
 
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By denying PlayStation say, TES6, they could loose potentially 15-20 million unit sales. Anywhere around 500million-1billion usd.

No idea if MS would do that. And if it will be worth it.
Worth it for what? pissing contest? Microsoft just spent a lot of money, they are going to want to see a return on investment.
 

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There's people way above the XBox division's power and influence who aren't going to allow the company to turn down the profits these titles will still generate on PS5, Nintendo, PC, etc.

Basically you'll still see every Fallout/Doom/Elder Scrolls on Playstation for decades to come.
What company , Bethesda studios are now a part of the Xbox first party division. Pc, of course everything MS makes gets released on PC, no news there . Switch, of course not a direct competitor , MS will release a title here and there. PlayStation, just wait and see. And lol at talks about Xbox’s division power, The Xbox ecosystem(which includes Xbox consoles, mobile, pc) is one of the biggest projects MS has right now.
But yeah MS paid 7.5 billion just to have Bethesda games on gamepass day one while Sony is moneyhatting stuff like FFXVI, I heard the 13 TF ps5 is coming.....
 

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Worth it for what? pissing contest? Microsoft just spent a lot of money, they are going to want to see a return on investment.
And they will , gamepass subs will explode and the Xbox will gain marketshare in the console market.
 

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Bethesda are HUGE on PC, alone.

They are, but that’s because they are multiplatform. They are really not generate that amount of money on pc only. Most of their games still sell more on console then pc. You think full exclusive wouldn’t hurt them in sales...lol?

This the Minecraft model.
 

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What company , Bethesda studios are now a part of the Xbox first party division. Pc, of course everything MS makes gets released on PC, no news there . Switch, of course not a direct competitor , MS will release a title here and there. PlayStation, just wait and see. And lol at talks about Xbox’s division power, The Xbox ecosystem(which includes Xbox consoles, mobile, pc) is one of the biggest projects MS has right now.
But yeah MS paid 7.5 billion just to have Bethesda games on gamepass day one while Sony is moneyhatting stuff like FFXVI, I heard the 13 TF ps5 is coming.....

Microsoft.
 

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Keep everything multiplatform for the next cycle of big game releases. Ultimately they need their studios and IP's to leverage Gamepads onto every platform out there. They still need a large mobile game publisher to force companies like Apple to bend the knee to their pressure. Gamepass is the Xbox brand going forward.
 

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They've bought 3 really good developers and Bethesda. The IP of Wolfenstein, Doom, Elder Scrolls and Fallout will be huge.

Just hope they don't fuck it up because they have form on that front.
 

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Gamepass wouldn't make back the money spent on Bethesda.
It isn’t my fault that people are in denial and short sighted and can’t see MS’ plans for gaming. O.k, this is my last post , MS bought Bethesda to continue publishing games on PlayStation day one, because.....,the games sell (as if spider man wouldn’t sell on pc+Xbox). Whatever, I am out, many fans can keep daydreaming, it won’t be the first time in recent months anyway.
 

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MS can't make games....so let's buy'em and then....we can..pretend they're ours

seriously though, these Zenimax games gotta be exclusive to Xbox, NOT including PC otherwise the move is lame because I have a PC. If it's just more gamepass...that's hilarious...I can be enjoying Starfield for a few bucks and then toss it.
 

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If, as stated, the goal is to reach subscribers.....

Make the games exclusive XBox and GamePass (Console, PC). If Sony and Nintwndo want in on these games, they'll need to allow XBox GamePass on their consoles. This will likely take some conslle specific curating, but....