LOL at the criticism of the graphics of a game that isn't even close to finished yet. Is that where we're at now?
Where we are is in a thread with some people trying to believe this game looks better than any other.
LOL at the criticism of the graphics of a game that isn't even close to finished yet. Is that where we're at now?
Where we are is in a thread with some people trying to believe this game looks better than any other.
Can't wait till they released more footage with improved graphics. Heads are going to explode around here.
That video is equally barren and empty.
It's got trees and clouds, that's all I see in there. No wildlife or anything, you know.
Funniest thing is that you're making the assumption that the entire game will be about huge monsters and only landscape, with no cities or anything else.
Also, more folliage as I already said, and more detailled too. Only thing you shown is a desert. Also, some people showed Gran Pulse from FF13 and trying to argue it's the same... yeah, minus the folliage, the creatures and real time fighting.
Just asked my brother what he though graphically of the trailer. He watched it in 720p by the way. (Not perfect, but better than nothing).
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There you have it
Here is footage of the console version of Far Cry 3.
http://youtu.be/lKdnS5frw7w?t=10m45s
Funniest thing is that you're making the assumption that the entire game will be about huge monsters and only landscape, with no cities or anything else.
Also, more folliage as I already said, and more detailled too. Only thing you shown is a desert. Also, some people showed Gran Pulse from FF13 and trying to argue it's the same... yeah, minus the folliage, the creatures and real time fighting.
because we can only judge what the pic shows. they might have big cities but who knows they might also have to compromise in details in those areas.
even infamous 2 had areas that were gorgeous and other not so much.
you can only compare what you can see.
I already said I expect it to be better later on, I'm just calling bullshit that people are saying THIS trailer exceeds the PS360..
Ok, time to open some eyes i think.
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Very low polygonal terrain
Sun height doesnt affect shadows at all. Here sun is about in 30 degree, but shadow is cast from 80 degree. So lighting is static, mostly prebaked. Shadow resolution looks like 1024k.
Particles quality is on pair with pre PS2 era, alpha texture resolution 64x64?
Water rendering is very simple, there is no refraction or distortion and no reflections from objects. Also next example of very low resolution alpha textures.
Foliage is completely sprite based, same as in Xenoblade
LOD is very aggressive, even for sprite based foliage and that means bandwidth problems of WiiU
Yeah, its on pair with midtier current gen open world games, but even that is generous. What is good in this footage? Characters/NPCs models, materials and HDR.
Are you looking at the same video? Horses roaming around, humans riding along the routes, people going about their business.
1:08 of the video. Shows a shot of people doing things, shortly after shows people walking along the trails. The ...you know what... never mind. I'm not bothering with you anymore.
Yes we did notice this, but we also noticed that this game is still not finished.Derrick01 said:Dropping truth bombs. I hope the (formerly graphics don't matter) wii crowd noticed this.
It does in some aspects which it shows how much potential the finished product has. More ram and superior GPU is there so its possible. Lets see what the devs do, in the end its really up to them.
Dropping truth bombs. I hope the (formerly graphics don't matter) wii crowd noticed this.
Foliage with poor draw distance, landscapes that are no more detailed than other games (texture filtering seems better though, which I'll give it that), and oh my, monsters. AI for monsters don't compare to games with characters that walk around doing an activity that isn't walking around aimlessly with a random grazing animation here and there.
Lol. Yeah ok.
Dropping truth bombs. I hope the (formerly graphics don't matter) wii crowd noticed this.
& CPU limits is there to reduce its superiority, believe me. CPU is not proper for the WiiU hardware.
You must've missed my edit, where I said that I was talking about the non-town stuff we see in the video, because it's obvious that a finished game would have people and whatnot in or near towns, whereas a game in alpha state isn't extremely likely to even have towns already (at least we didn't see any in the footage).
But hey, it's okay. I don't care about this thread anymore.
No I wont believe you since you dont seem to understand the design differences between the hd twins and the wii u.
"slightly better than any other on PS3/360".
Just to make it clear.
Dropping truth bombs. I hope the (formerly graphics don't matter) wii crowd noticed this.
Funniest thing is that you're making the assumption that the entire game will be about huge monsters and only landscape, with no cities or anything else.
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There's also a trailer you know ?
Wii U is quite similar to 360, to be honest but without a proper CPU to cover the edram limits from what I know.
Yes we did notice this, but we also noticed that this game is still not finished.
I wouldn't call focus on little details truth bomb in fact.
What he just done is "here ! this small place looks bad". We judge a game as an overall.
Also, small clipping on grass will be something that will disappear in the final product for sure. (PS: Lol at calling me Wii crowd )
Actually it isnt.
I didn't notice any of this until it was pointed out.
That's not my problem. We're judging what was shown.
The little details is what makes a game look good or bad. There's no point having a next gen NPC or character if he's in a 360/ps3 environment.
Delight me, please. I'm a regular reader of Beyond3d, not find something of particul exotic on wiiU.
You must've missed my edit, where I said that I was talking about the non-town stuff we see in the video, because it's obvious that a finished game would have people and whatnot in or near towns, whereas a game in alpha state isn't extremely likely to even have towns already (at least we didn't see any in the footage).
But hey, it's okay. I don't care about this thread anymore.
Yes we did notice this, but we also noticed that this game is still not finished.
Including both The Last of Us and God of War: Ascension?
Or are we strictly talking about open world games here...
It's sad, because those things are very apparent. Especially the pop in and angular shores... which I still think is because early development, but who knows?
It's very pretty. And yes, it's unfinished. But what was shown doesn't really look beyond the 7th gen systems.I am not the type to sit there and pick games apart. I tend to enjoy just playing them more. That said, looks nice to me.
It's crazy how many people are ripping the Wii U for its graphics and tech. I bought a Wii U and knew about the graphic technology and all of the other shit that is not next gen and I am satisfied with it. The game pad brings a whole new element into gaming and that's why I like it. If you want graphics and performance, go spend $1000 on a new computer. I will happily be buying the Next Box aswell which will again, not be computer quality but will still be great enough. If people like the graphics how they are, why fight with them?
Huff said:X is totally better!
What flaws? I didn't see them - doesn't count.
This game is still in development, you can't judge it yet!
Graphics arn't important, its only the gameplay that matters!
It's very pretty. And yes, it's unfinished. But what was shown doesn't really look beyond the 7th gen systems.
If one wants to claim the game will surpass the 7th gen systems when it's finished, more power to them I guess. It remains to be seen, and certainly may do so. But I don't think from what's shown the claim that the trailer currently does surpass the 7th gen systems' output yet holds true.
But it's very pretty.
Man, you people are awful, I just don't understand how you can debate about this.
All these games look very good, I don't sit in front of a game and wonder why it doesn't look like Crysis 3 and I don't care actually.
It's crazy how many people are ripping the Wii U for its graphics and tech. I bought a Wii U and knew about the graphic technology and all of the other shit that is not next gen and I am satisfied with it. The game pad brings a whole new element into gaming and that's why I like it. If you want graphics and performance, go spend $1000 on a new computer. I will happily be buying the Next Box aswell which will again, not be computer quality but will still be great enough. If people like the graphics how they are, why fight with them?
What does NEOGAF think of the graphics on Wii U's second wave of games
Including both The Last of Us and God of War: Ascension?
Or are we strictly talking about open world games here...
RDR's frame rate is mostly fine. But in general I'd support this. Most developers seem to prefer it the other way for whatever reasons.RDR and Skyrim on consoles had unstable framerate, should have had shittier graphics for smoother gameplay.
You enter on a thread named(my emphasis):
And complain that people are talking about graphics. Interesting thought process you have going on there.
Its been claimed it looks better than every PS360 game, except for ones it doesn't, but those games don't count cause of stuff. Its a bit fascinating to watch.
So You dont know how prebaked shadows works and that they can occlude geometry?
My prebaked lighting comment was about environment geometry in general, because characters and trees seem to have same shadows cast every time, like many PS2 game had for example.
Most of terrain is flat and then is covered with sprited based foliage like Xenoblade 1 was, nothing really to talk about and of course nothing impressive, rather unimpressive i would say.
About particles. Can You show me current gen game with such low quality alpha textures?
mxrz said:Its been claimed it looks better than every PS360 game, except for ones it doesn't, but those games don't count cause of stuff. Its a bit fascinating to watch.