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What happens if Trump loses but refuses to concede?

cryptoadam

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Dominos are being set in place. Dont come back in November so we can say I told you so. You are being prepared now. The left is establishing the narrative and making sure that they have control over information CCP style.

This is not a prediction this is a spoiler.

XiNN and MSDNC will be telling you on Nov 3rd/4th that the results do not match the exit polls and that the only answer is the Trump and the Russians have interfered in the election and the results are not valid. Then the UN and EU will chime in saying that Trump is not the legal POTUS and the election results are illegal. They will then all get up and demand that Trump step down, pass some resolutions declaring Trump an illegal POTUS and recognizing Biden as the legitmate winner. The Brownshits will hit the streets rioting more intensly then we have seen and probably start killing conservatives.

Its a well played out script by the globalist and the day is coming in less than 2 months.
 

Bernd Lauert

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Yep. In these scenarios, it's never Biden refusing to concede, despite not conceding under any circumstance literally being a part of Biden's plan. It's wild.
 

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Christ, full blown civil war would ensue, like actual full blown North v South levels of shit hit the fannery!
 

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Neither side would pull any theatrics like refusing to concede. From a long term perspective, it would just be self defeating.
 
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I don't pretend to know what will happen, but I will be prepared as best as I can.

I think it's important that we don't give into fear or hatred, no matter what happens. If we protect ourselves, our loved ones, and each other, we'll get through it. Pay attention, and be prepared to get involved. We may not be able to watch this one comfortably from the couch.
 
It would only be in a couple of places, if any, swing states, Florida again (most likely). Maybe MN/MI/etc.

You'd get the normal protesting idiots, but I honestly don't think there is enough general animosity among the vast electorate to cause any kind of Civil War 2 without some sort of institutional seize of power. BLM/ANTIFA causing violence will only hurt their causes, same with Right Wing Extremists/White Supremacists.

Now, if say DC police tries to get involved and arrest the President or something, that's when some real boogaloo shit gets started, but I expect either way we'll have yet another boring transition of power.
 
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Civil war in the US would be regional this time. Rather than Oregon vs. Texas, it will be rural Oregon vs. Portland.
Well I meant in scale, The right is a sleeping giant just waiting to erupt given the expectation to be fucker over, and we are going getting the Left at 25% of their full fascistic strong arming. It will be a bloodbath. I hope to god it doesn't go down like that!
 
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The West coast threatens to secede, violence erupts in the streets. Calls for international aid go out from Dems, the UN and China invade. Antifa insurgents disrupt supply lines and kill thousands.

This is assuming the US military doesn't go along with the coup.
 

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It’s pretty elegantly outlined in the 12 and 20th amendments.

12th.

If there’s no electoral college winner declared The House Votes to select the president.

20th.
If after that he refuses to step down he’s legally In office till January 3rd.

If he refuses to leave at that point the secret service escorts him out in handcuffs and he doesn’t have enough support from the joint chiefs to allow him to stay.
 
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Whataborman

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Again Hanging Chads was Gore not Bush.

Hillary conceded but acted like a giant baby and didn't really do an official concession.

Dems are the ones who act like babies.

Exactly.

The more accurate article is "What will happen when President Trump is reelected and the democrats refuse to concede?"

The dems are setting up a scenario where they will try to force a coup via mass rioting and looting in the street.

If after that he refuses to step down he’s legally In office till January 3rd.
January 20th.

That's inauguration day, regardless of who wins.
 
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Who exactly would be fighting for the left in this scenario?
No one.

But I can see a lot of patriots stepping up to fight for President Trump if the dems try to steal the election from him via fraud or other means.

There are a lot of people who are disgusted with what has been happening the past few months with COVID and BLM/Antifa riots, just not disgusted enough to act, but massive voter fraud or an attempt to steal an election could compel them.

I really think we're one event from shit hitting the fan in this country. One violent protest in the wrong neighborhood, one more COVID restriction, etc...
 
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Civil war won’t happen. None of us have the stomach for that kind of bloodshed when it really comes to it.

People will scream for law and order if the anarchy spreads beyond the yuppie liberal sections or mostly unpopulated downtown parts of cities.
 

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No one.

But I can see a lot of patriots stepping up to fight for President Trump if the dems try to steal the election from him via fraud or other means.

There are a lot of people who are disgusted with what has been happening the past few months with COVID and BLM/Antifa riots, just not disgusted enough to act, but massive voter fraud or an attempt to steal an election could compel them.

I really think we're one event from shit hitting the fan in this country. One violent protest in the wrong neighborhood, one more COVID restriction, etc...
Just seems to me that its basically unwinnable because given the way that Dem support is geographically so heavily biased towards the same metropolitan areas that would be the most debilitated by civil unrest, they'd tear themselves apart long before affecting the rest of the country. Especially after they've alienated LEO's to the degree they have, who's going to be fighting for them college kids? They won't be able to rely on the streets.
 

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Civil war won’t happen. None of us have the stomach for that kind of bloodshed when it really comes to it.
How did Americans stomach it in 1861? Or any nation for that matter?

The hatred against Trump/Republicans is off the charts with the media even popularizing the idea of assassination. It's easy to say that, but when your city starts burning and Antifa shows up and starts stoning you, what other option is left?
 
How did Americans stomach it in 1861? Or any nation for that matter?

The hatred against Trump/Republicans is off the charts with the media even popularizing the idea of assassination. It's easy to say that, but when your city starts burning and Antifa shows up and starts stoning you, what other option is left?
Twitter Outage & Social Media Outage =/= real outrage.

Trump OR Biden would have to do something very very deliberately despicable to get Americans to fight Americans en masse.

ANTIFA/BLM are burning their own cities. Sure, there are some sane people there, but not a majority (obviously). Where have they done any real damage where a Republican is in charge?

I absolutely agree they're a threat, but they're not some giant nationwide problem we need to be afraid of.
 
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The left doesn't have the numbers OR the balls. Theyre mainly kids that yell at people on twitter.

"Dad, Trump lost and isn't leaving office! Stupid orange piece of shit! Were going to civil war!"

"Okay Son, don't forget your skateboard, have fun!"
 
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Doesn't matter who concedes. Congress certifies the results of the electoral college vote. If Trump loses he gets kicked out of the White House on schedule, regardless of what he thinks of the election.

You need to stop worrying about what Trump will think/do. Worry about what the electors will do, they're the ones deciding the outcome. Counting those electoral votes isn't difficult. Worry about Congress not certifying the results for some reason. Don't think that has ever happened.

It isn't in Trump's hands. It isn't in Biden's hands.

If Trump loses he'll claim the election was stolen because he doesn't want to be called a loser. If Biden loses the Democrats will claim the election was stolen because they want an excuse to do absolutely nothing worthwhile for another 4 years. Neither of those "opinions" matter when it comes to deciding who sits in the oval office.
 
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Twitter Outage & Social Media Outage =/= real outrage.

Trump OR Biden would have to do something very very deliberately despicable to get Americans to fight Americans en masse.

ANTIFA/BLM are burning their own cities. Sure, there are some sane people there, but not a majority (obviously). Where have they done any real damage where a Republican is in charge?

I absolutely agree they're a threat, but they're not some giant nationwide problem we need to be afraid of.
I agree with this. Unless the communists venture into red states, I don't see a civil war happening. Any potential war, if there ever was one, would be rather short for obvious reasons.
 

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Worry about Congress not certifying the results for some reason. Don't think that has ever happened.
Good point.

I can see a scenario where President Trump wins and a Nancy Pelosi led House refuses to certify the election.

I'm not sure exactly what would happen then, but I guess the Supreme Court would step in.
 
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Twitter Outage & Social Media Outage =/= real outrage.

Trump OR Biden would have to do something very very deliberately despicable to get Americans to fight Americans en masse.

ANTIFA/BLM are burning their own cities. Sure, there are some sane people there, but not a majority (obviously). Where have they done any real damage where a Republican is in charge?

I absolutely agree they're a threat, but they're not some giant nationwide problem we need to be afraid of.
What about the statues being thrown down/destroyed? Or the constant boycotts/termination of those with moderate/right-wing views?

Like that's the thing. They've been getting more bolder and defiant each month. They don't have to actually venture into Republican territory in order to piss them off.
Maybe even a large gathering at the White House again could be enough to spark something.
 
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I can see a scenario where President Trump wins and a Nancy Pelosi led House refuses to certify the election.
I think Pelosi loves being the most powerful Democrat in America. I think she also loves being in that position in a time where she can blame absolutely everything on Trump or the Russians and her base will eat it hook, line, and sinker.

If Biden wins Pelosi loses that position. She also will suddenly be faced with having to you know, defend her positions. She'll have to do something besides cry "Russians" and go on vacation if there is a crisis while the Democrats are in charge.

Her job has been ridiculously easy during a Trump presidency.

Oh, and this is an interesting dive into Congress's role. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/contested-election-brawl-capitol-hill
 
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Civil war won’t happen. None of us have the stomach for that kind of bloodshed when it really comes to it.
Across history, people have had the stomach for all sorts of atrocities when push came to shove. I do not trust that we won't now.
 

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I agree with this. Unless the communists venture into red states, I don't see a civil war happening. Any potential war, if there ever was one, would be rather short for obvious reasons.
Yeah I mean also more people were used to shooting for food or defending their property from wildlife then so just hopping on a horse with your rifle or six shooter was easier and natural. Plus it’s not like people just starred shooting in the streets: they had to enlist in local militias and get drafted into the Union Army. If military leaders didn’t defect there wouldn’t have been a civil war and despite the divisiveness on Twitter we are not even close to that.
 
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How did Americans stomach it in 1861? Or any nation for that matter?

The hatred against Trump/Republicans is off the charts with the media even popularizing the idea of assassination. It's easy to say that, but when your city starts burning and Antifa shows up and starts stoning you, what other option is left?
Across history, people have had the stomach for all sorts of atrocities when push came to shove. I do not trust that we won't now.
All of these people acting out are operating under the assumption that no one is going to shoot them for rioting/looting or whatever. There's a strong element of "tear down the system" while subconsciously understanding that there's enough of a system in place that they're in no real serious danger. As it stands, anyone who dies during these protests actually make it to the front page of most major news publishers.

If bullets start flying, I don't think people are really willing to put their lives on the line so that people don't use the wrong pronouns or use microaggressions. We're just not equipped for that kind of war torn environment or feel that our ideals are so important that it's worth risking actual lives over.

When the news starts reporting that dozens of people are regularly killed in violent clashes with law enforcement or counter protesters then I might start thinking something is truly happening.
 

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It will be a peaceful transition if Trump loses. If he loses he will know he will have to eventually concede, so he should only hold out on very clear indication of a few votes might flip in a meaningful way. With that known Trump will see he is headed out the door an do the last power move. Leave like a class act, thank the people for allowing him to help "right the ship" and ask them to join him in welcoming the incoming Biden Admin.... then dish on Obama and how he couldn't do it.
 
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It will be a peaceful transition if Trump loses. If he loses he will know he will have to eventually concede, so he should only hold out on very clear indication of a few votes might flip in a meaningful way. With that known Trump will see he is headed out the door an do the last power move. Leave like a class act, thank the people for allowing him to help "right the ship" and ask them to join him in welcoming the incoming Biden Admin.... then dish on Obama and how he couldn't do it.
Something tells me he would go on a declassifying spree that will leave this nation virtually ungovernable for a few years.
 

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Again Hanging Chads was Gore not Bush.

Hillary conceded but acted like a giant baby and didn't really do an official concession.

Dems are the ones who act like babies.
That was hillary. She couldn't take losing. Women are such sore losers sometimes. Same with men. Let's see how this pans out. If we drag trump out by his hair and it rips out, do we put that in the museum or a donation bin for those chemically harmed by tremendous hair?
 

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Civil unrest of unprecedented level would ensue, that is for sure. Constant protests in front of the White House, a lot of street violence and looting. Trump hotel would probably get demolished as well as any Trump property. Who knows what would happen after.
 

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It doesn't matter if the loser of the election "concedes" or not, because regardless, the winner of the electoral college (officially counted by Congress the first week of January) will be sworn in for a four year term on January 20th and be President.

I don't really understand why there's any question of whether Trump would leave or not. He has proven time and time again that he is not a dictator. It seems to me that the worry over whether Trump will "accept" the election results is projection from the other side, given how they still do not "accept" that Trump beat Hillary in 2016 and will surely have a reason not to accept Biden's defeat in 2020 if Trump wins again.
 
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A nice NSA man has a lovely ‘chat’ with Trump, and he miraculously decides to leave after all...
 

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If there's not a clear-cut winner from the electoral process, it's going to be mass civil unrest. If Trump kind-of wins, and then the house votes for the winner, it's going to be chaos. If Biden kind-of wins, and then the court ends up choosing the presidency, it's going to be chaos. Whatever happens, it needs to be clear and definite. I don't think that's going to happen this time.
 

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That was hillary. She couldn't take losing. Women are such sore losers sometimes. Same with men. Let's see how this pans out. If we drag trump out by his hair and it rips out, do we put that in the museum or a donation bin for those chemically harmed by tremendous hair?
Better to drag him out by the depends, also creates a giant wedgy.
 

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I remember people saying this about Obama. The Left said it about W before that. It came up during the 2004 and 2012 re elections for each president.

Imo it is dictator domination fantasy for losers
 
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It's never going to happen. If Trump loses then he will step down. This whole idea of Trump trying to go full dictator and seize power is a fantasy. Not even the Republicans would support him in such an endeavor.


In fact I think most of his supporters wouldn't support him in such a move either.
 
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The only way one side would support it is if there was something blatant and obvious on the other side. If Trump very clearly loses a fair election, no one would support him staying "to defend the republic!" and honestly I don't think he'd even bother.

If he loses and there is very obvious malfeasance on the side of the left that could change the election result.. that's where it gets murky. I still don't think anything would happen.. because stuff like that is going to appear at the local and maybe state level, not like Biden snuck off and placed a bunch of fake ballots himself or something.

But the majority of the country isn't about real tyrants or dictators, no matter how much the other side pretends its so.
 
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