Synless
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What is with the Japanese and the Hot Springs/Beach Day trope that permeates throughout all of anime/jrpgs?
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SlimeGooGoo
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bender
What time is it?
Sounds like all involved in the situation could have used a nice relaxing trip to a hot springs.
Fake
Gold Member
Not true. You and all need to like what I like and hate what I hate.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Anime is about some socially awkward dope (stand-in for their Otaku audience) who gets the hottest girl without having to do anything scary, like flirt with her or make a move or compete with other guys for her affection. Instead it all just happens through little accidental “ice breaker” moments like that. It all makes sense when you look at it that way.
michaelius
Banned
Onsens are important part of culture in Japan. And people still use public bathhouses there even when they don't need to do it anymore.
www.toki.tokyo
like you even have whole citisies famous for hundreds of hot springs they have
Soaking in the Warmth: A Dive into the Onsen Culture of Japan — TOKI
Although the exact beginnings of onsen in Japan are unclear, hot springs are referenced in the Nihon Shoki, which was written in the second half of the 1st century. Within the Nihon Shoki text, three of Japan's oldest onsen are referenced: Ehime Prefecture's Dogo-Onsen, Wakayama Prefecture's Shiraha
www.toki.tokyo
like you even have whole citisies famous for hundreds of hot springs they have
CamHostage
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Some additional context here on the history:
(It's a Youtuber, so expect that, but there's historical clips of the kind of evolution from like a light way to inject fluffy filler comedy relief into a series to practically a requirement for any anime series and the basis for a number of games/spin-offs.)
One further thing not mentioned in this thread (not sure if it's in the video, didn't watch the whole thing,) specific to anime and sometimes manga, a hotsprings/beach episode is produced sometimes as bonus content to help sell the DVDs. The series airs weekly on TV, then for the home release, they would remaster the scenes (often episodes were patchy going to air, and get finalized really for the video release) and maybe add bonus content. A whole new episode might seem extreme for "bonus content", but getting material with all the female characters in bikinis was merchandisable.
(It's a Youtuber, so expect that, but there's historical clips of the kind of evolution from like a light way to inject fluffy filler comedy relief into a series to practically a requirement for any anime series and the basis for a number of games/spin-offs.)
One further thing not mentioned in this thread (not sure if it's in the video, didn't watch the whole thing,) specific to anime and sometimes manga, a hotsprings/beach episode is produced sometimes as bonus content to help sell the DVDs. The series airs weekly on TV, then for the home release, they would remaster the scenes (often episodes were patchy going to air, and get finalized really for the video release) and maybe add bonus content. A whole new episode might seem extreme for "bonus content", but getting material with all the female characters in bikinis was merchandisable.
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NeoIkaruGAF
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This is like asking why is it that it’s always America saving the world from aliens / terrorists / asteroids / superbugs in Hollywood movies. Or why whatever super menace comes to threaten the Earth, it always, always, always attacks New York.
Interfectum
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captainpat
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Hot spring scenes can be good but the template boys peeping on girls thing is so boring.
SlimeGooGoo
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Guilty_AI
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Oh yeah, they are "different" eh? Cultural heritage really does work in mysterious ways.
John Bilbo
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I wish one day there will be a jrpg set only on the beach and hot springs.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Yup…such is life.
FunkMiller
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Stealth ‘Jin’s ass in Ghost Of Tsushima is magnificent‘ thread.
Lupingosei
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crunchyBiscuits
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Mabdia
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Well... that is the Cancel Culture official forum. What did you expected?!
009EspadaSageJay
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japan is a coastal country hot springs and beaches are huge in japan no idea why japan promoting there own culture is no some how bad or "cringy" you know whats cringy he man and burger boy having sex in TLOU2 you know whats cringy edgy completely pointless sex scenes in Game of thrones You know whats cringy the future is female when half of these women weight about 115 soaking wet and would struggle to beat up the nerdiest of neck beards who only thing they live on is mountain dew and taco bell.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Hurrrr someone said something bad about my anime, I’m gonna even the score by criticizing a bunch of random western shit.
Senhua
Member
I also could do the same to American:
"what-is-with-the-american-and-the-guns-and-freedom-trope-that-permeates-throughout-all-of-realistic-Wshooter"
Next time please do more research about East/SoutEast Asian culture especially Japan before making a thread OP.
Thanks god this is American forum, if you ask that question to East Asian community.....lol
Larxia
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I'm not sure if you're serious, I guess you're probably exagerrating on purpose. But anyway, it's really not comparable, your argument would be fair if OP complained about too many animes being shonen for example, but that's not the case, he didn't criticize a genre, he criticized a specific scene being identical in many different medias.
Guilty_AI
Member
nah, shonen simply designates anime/manga targeted to teenagers/kids that usually involve action.
Super hero wasn't really a genre in movies, it became a genre because theres way too fucking many nowadays.
That said i was half exagerating. The point is american media also has tropes that a lot of the people complaining about jp cliches often don't even realize, or even indulge in it themselves.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Oh give me a break. I’m pretty sure any western anime fan who criticizes anime cliches is well aware that American media also has some cliches. Nobody is reading your comment like “oh…oh my god, thank you for opening my gaijin eyes! I used to think that western media was above criticism but not anymore!!!!”
Honestly just makes you look like a defensive weeb.
Guilty_AI
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Madflavor
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The fuck you talking about? I’m talking about a specific scene that plays out the same in Jrpgs.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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I always enjoy this trope. Guys complaining are just a bunch of soyboys
YukiOnna
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From what I've seen, they don't at all. Are you okay though? What a weird way to react.
TheMay30thMan
Member
Your loss, dude.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Thread taken right from Reset and placed here with the subtlety of a dead cat after it rained in some ones basement.
Sorry OP but people who won't agree with you won't be banned for sexism (including the women) nice try. Gaf detectives on the scene!
Answering your question, there are plenty of girls doing shenanigans at the springs as well, not as much but a good amount.
Do you disapprove of that side too or is this a one sided thing out of curiosity?
Sorry OP but people who won't agree with you won't be banned for sexism (including the women) nice try. Gaf detectives on the scene!
Answering your question, there are plenty of girls doing shenanigans at the springs as well, not as much but a good amount.
Do you disapprove of that side too or is this a one sided thing out of curiosity?
CGiRanger
Banned
Or the College Partying/Frat scenes in media as well.
Dacon
Banned
Culture is what.
That's a very myopic view of anime. It's so much more than that.
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TransTrender
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Outside of anime and video game tropes, every time I've been to Japan, communial baths are a very common very regular thing.
Hot springs are just an extension of that.
Not sure about beach days since I haven't been to a real beach in Japan, but I've head of this from my colleagues.
en.wikipedia.org
So this also makes it seem like beach days are real events which get people excited. Also makes sense given the country's geography, work/life balance, and affinity for the outdoors when the weather is good.
The weeb shit is fan service for weebs.
Hot springs are just an extension of that.
Not sure about beach days since I haven't been to a real beach in Japan, but I've head of this from my colleagues.
Marine Day - Wikipedia
So this also makes it seem like beach days are real events which get people excited. Also makes sense given the country's geography, work/life balance, and affinity for the outdoors when the weather is good.
The weeb shit is fan service for weebs.
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TransTrender
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Under-appreciated post right herewhat's with the American/western Murder Porn?
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TastyPastry
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i love the trope and i hope it never dies. i've also been planning my first trip to japan for years and i can't wait to experience an onsen for myself. seriously we should make a onsen thread because i want to know what the comfiest onsen in all of japan is and visit it.
JackNightblade
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this is why i think anime is booming right now. we are in a time, as westerners, where we arent allowed to have cultural heritage so we see it in spades in anime and we cling to it.