What Is Your Stance on Non-Black POC Using the N-Word?

[Shadow_Lord]

This is always a subject of debate between people I know. Should Hispanic, Arabs, Asians, etc.. be able to use the N-word? Particularly Arabs from North Africa who say that they can say it because they're from Africa.

Your thoughts GAF?

 

[Avixph]

Unacceptable.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Why do they want to say it?

 

[wandering]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwoxnQ4eLR4

 

[Brakke]

It's so easy to just never say it. Solve the problem the easy way.

I dunno why people get so worked up their right to "use" the word.

 

[Quick]

If you have to think about it and/or ask, then don't.

 

[Lil Marco]

If you have to think about if its ok to say it, then its not ok to say it.

 

[TheGeniusArcana]

Non black POC here, and yeah, don't say it.
If anything, I think non blacks shouldn't ever feel /okay/ with saying it even if their black friends are cool with it in that sort of situation that often gets brought up.

 

[MisterShine]

I grew up with a lot of Hispanics (Puerto
Ricans mostly), I heard it fairly often? I never heard anyone take issue so I never thought too much of it.

edit: lot of Puerto Ricans are black now that I think on it. Probably should've put that together.

 

[blame space]

No one is allowed to say it except black people

 

[yanipheonu]

Having proper and civil social interactions means having to feel out what you can say to people and what you can't.

I probably wouldn't lead with the N-Word.

 

[lightskintwin]

It's weird some of ya'll need guides to socially interact with people.

 

[AAK]

Slightly off topic, but how did Pulp Fiction get away it?

 

[Enzom21]

I'll quote myself from the other thread that we just had about this:

As the word was created and used exclusively to denigrate us, absolutely.
It doesn't matter how someone who isn't black feels about the word, they are allowed to be divorced from it.

I am all too used to that in our annual "Why can't I say nigger too?!" thread.

And if white people don't get to say it, being black doesn't "excuse its use."

If you are not black, do not fucking say it. The fucking end.

Did you not get the answer you were hoping for in the other thread?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1369525

Unless those Arabs from Africa are black, they can't say it.

 

[Slayven]

Why do you want to say it?

 

[blame space]

Pretty obviously because cool people say it

 

[lightskintwin]

Slightly off topic, but how did Pulp Fiction get away it?

I mean if you ask me, it was poorly done, not that the word was said but that Tarantino's character was the one saying it to Jackson's character. It came across forced.

 

[Speevy]

Slightly off topic, but how did Pulp Fiction get away it?

Because Quentin Tarantino is weird and Sam Jackson.

 

[Samara]

This is always a subject of debate between people I know. Should Hispanic, Arabs, Asians, etc.. be able to use the N-word? Particularly Arabs from North Africa who say that they can say it because they're from Africa.

Your thoughts GAF?

Saying nigger in some part of the world is okay. Example in Martinique or Haiti it is commonly used. Mostly because of the prestigious note that the french language gave to the word. Oh and the damn colorism about rather being called a negress rather than a ''black'' person.

It's not a universal word that is accepted everywhere. How are people not getting that?

 

[maxxpower]

Brown person here. If there was an N word equivalent for us I would never fucking use it, so of course I wouldn't use the N word.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

No one is allowed to say it except black people

This.

Why do you want to say it?

But also this.

 

[Psychoward]

Slightly off topic, but how did Pulp Fiction get away it?

Because it's a movie and Jimmy wasn't supposed to be a good person?

 

[Bounceounce]

I think anyone should be able to say Nigga or Nigger if it's in reference to the word or in a novel/historical text (and that they should do so) or in music, which has been my perspective ever since reading half of Huckleberry Finn in elementary school.

Beyond that though?

Don't use it in conversation/as an insult, and when it comes to nigga, take that up with the black people up in your immediate vicinity.

Where i'm from there wasn't really ever any policing of it so despite being black that discussion wasn't very relevant until High School which was when all of the police shootings/protests were breaking out and myself and other black kids started developing our social justice ideologies and started to make shifts in what we accepted in our friends circles/from others and what not.

I'm ambivelant on it in either direction mostly, but it's probably just easier not to say it and if you say it to not say it within the vicinity of any black person who hasn't "cleared" you to use it (not that I believe in the concept of a "nigga pass") and not to say it if any black person tells you not to.

Especially since so many people who try to fight to say nigga end up being bigots themselves or people who don't care about/dismiss the black fight for civil rights/the issues that plague us as unnecessary and fiction, not cool.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

We get this thread a lot

 

[Knightmarre]

Words are words. Anyone can say anything as long as they are prepared for the consequnces.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Don't fucking do it.

 

[Brakke]

Slightly off topic, but how did Pulp Fiction get away it?

But he didn't? Lotta people uncomfortable with Tarantino and "nigger" for his whole career.

 

[LionPride]

No

 

[MsKrisp]

In short no...

I had a couple of Iranian customers that kept calling each other sand n****s while I was dealing with them, and it was just uncomfortable

 

[Slayven]

Words are words. Anyone can say anything as long as they are prepared for the consequnces.

Thats the rub, they want to say it and be exempt from the history of the word

 

[Media]

I'm uncomfortable singing along with Amanda Palmer's (she's white) Guita Hero because she says Hey, nigga, in it. I'm Native American.

So nope, not even for us.

 

[Wesley-Sigma]

No one should be saying it.

 

[Grenouille]

Heard a Cypress Hill song the other day in which this happened. Apparently guy got a pass because he is hispanic. But he looks straight up white! Weird thing.

 

[Kthulhu]

Personally, it makes me uncomfortable.

 

[Dominator]

I have another question, if you're not black and you're rapping along to songs, is it ok to say the word? I don't do it because I don't want to make anyone I'm around uncomfortable but I know others who let loose around others and don't give a fuck and say the N-word like its nothing while rapping along to songs. They don't use it in their everyday speech, just when rapping songs.

I'm going to be honest, I've done it a few times alone but I seldom rap along to songs when I listen to them. I save that for pop smash hits. Just want to get a consensus on if this is racist/totally wrong to do.

 

[akira28]

Why is this debate more popular than any other? "Who gets to use the n-word?"

 

[PixelatedBookake]

If your a non-black POC and you wanna say nigga but can't, try to find a word white people used (or still use) to oppress you and replace it with that. Just crack open that racist dictionary and take a look. This can be fun for the whole family.

 

[norm9]

I think it's slightly different if it's hip hop.

 

[PanSexual_Peacock]

As a black man, I never had a problem with my Hispanic friends saying it in High School. But that probably had a lot to do with knowing they weren't racist. I'm not exactly proud of the fact that I still use the word around my friends when we chill. I can easily not say it at all around other people or in a professional setting.

 

[Kickz]

Are black people who aren't African American ie have history of slavery allowed to say it?

 

[blame space]

Black people get to say 0.002% more English words than I do. 😠

 

[JordanN]

 

[VanWinkle]

It's so easy to just never say it. Solve the problem the easy way.

I dunno why people get so worked up their right to "use" the word.

Yeah, I've never been in a situation in my life where I needed or wanted to use the word. I just wish it would go away.

 

[Slayven]

Why is this debate more popular than any other? "Who gets to use the n-word?"

You know why, black people get one word, and because of that shit will never be equal.

 

[ZeoVGM]

What reason would they have to say it exactly?

 

[Media]

Yeah, I've never been in a situation in my life where I needed or wanted to use the word. I just wish it would go away.

Same here. Also the word fag. I just don't see why the hell I'd want to use it.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Is it just as reprehensible to refer to a fellow white guy as "my nigga".

Or is the word banned from all speech unless you're black?

Do you think one day it'll be allowed or never.

 

[DietRob]

Just don't do it. Absolutely no reason to at all.

Don't give me the I was singing a song excuse either. Skip the word. I don't want to hear my black friends say it's OK, it's not. I don't want to hear anything about your freedom of speech, you got the freedom to get a foot in your ass too.

Don't say it.

 

[Hopeford]

If your a non-black POC and you wanna say nigga but can't, try to find a word white people used (or still use) to oppress you and replace it with that. Just crack open that racist dictionary and take a look. This can be fun for the whole family.

Gonna quote an old story i remember posting about the last n-word thread I remember posting in.

I knew one dude who told me to call him the n-word so that he could call me a spic(or rather "spica" which he thought sounded hilarious) without feeling bad about it. I assured him that while I appreciated both the intention and his permission, following through with it would likely have resulted in me getting a couple dirty looks.

I assured him he had permission to call me a spic, spica or anything else he wanted to but that I'd stay away from the n-word to avoid both being rude and asskickings in the streets. He understood my intentions and intended to buy me a beer for it. I'm more of a girly drinks kinda guy, so instead he bought me haagen dazs ice cream. I feel like I got too much for too little. I think that night ended in a lot of alcohol and the word "bro" being uttered more than it is likely legally allowed to.

I love that bastard, good friend.

For some added context, what happened is that he had never heard the word spic before. Then he heard it once and he was like "...That sounds so fucking fun to say" with the goofiest smile, then he was like "Oh, shit, I feel bad saying that to you." Theeen the quoted story developed from that haha

 

[Zekes!]

It's a no. Like, I get why some non-Black POC would use it if they grew up in neighbourhoods alongside Black people (New York) but it still doesn't sit right with me. As someone who lives in an area where there are no such Black neighbourhoods (British Columbia) whenever I run into non-Black POC saying nigga it immediately comes across like they think they're cool because they use it. Growing up, I was always hearing Asian dudes using it and shit pissed me off.

It bugs me to this day that JLo says nigga in I'm Real, and Ja Rule have her the pass on that shit.

Is it just as reprehensible to refer to a fellow white guy as "my nigga".

Or is the word banned from all speech unless you're black?

Do you think one day it'll be allowed or never.

Quickest way to make me want to slap a dude is for White dudes to call each other niggas.