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What's the Best Way to sell my Sony XBR 960 CRT HDTV?

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JB1981

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The set is ISF calibrated. The calibration was done by this guy http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/

It's about as perfect a CRT as one could find. The problem I have is that it's causing me severe eye strain. I'm hoping to sell this beauty and move onto LCD tech (which appears to be a lot easier on my eyes). I love the TV. I use it basically every day and it performs like a champ, but the eye strain is becoming too much to take. I would be more than happy to sell it to a fellow Gaffer, but if that's not possible, what's the best place for me to get rid of this thing? I won't be happy parting with it, but I have to for the sake of my eyes.



I'm also interested in selling my Integra 7.1 DTR5.5 receiver. If I move to LCD I'm going to need a receiver with HDMI switching. The 5.5 has also been a great product.If anyone's interested please let me know. I'm located in Toms River, NJ.
 

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Id say Craigslist since you would be dealing with people locally. I shudder at the thought of having to ship that monstrosity.
 

JB1981

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Ryck said:
Id say Craigslist since you would be dealing with people locally. I shudder at the thought of having to ship that monstrosity.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'm just new to this sorta thing so I was looking for some advice.
 

heavy liquid

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I'm not sure why it's causing you eye strain? How is LCD easier on the eyes? I'm not berating you in any way, I honestly don't know.

I would LOVE to own a 960. How much would you consider selling it for? I'm sure shipping would cost an arm and a leg, and I don't know if I should really buy it right now anyway. But I might make an exception.

Most people consider the 960 the pinnicle of CRT tech, which is still better than LCD, plasma, DLP and other HDTVs after all these years (in my opinion, and many others at least). You still can't find a better black level than on a CRT. And you don't have to worry about burn-in or response time. Sure, the thing is HUGE, but so what? The picture is amazing, as long as you have the space for it. But I'm sure you know all of this, anyway.
 

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A friend of mine is supposed to be buying my CRT from me...but she seems to be flaking out and doesn't seem to want it all of a sudden.

My brother said he's interested, but I haven't confirmed anything yet. I tried asking my coworkers, but they weren't interested. So if none of that works, I'll just try craigslist or something.

So I guess the thing to do is...ask coworkers, friends who are still stuck in SDTV land, or even a family member? And then craigslist if all that fails.
 

JB1981

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heavy liquid said:
I'm not sure why it's causing you eye strain? How is LCD easier on the eyes? I'm not berating you in any way, I honestly don't know.

I would LOVE to own a 960. How much would you consider selling it for? I'm sure shipping would cost an arm and a leg, and I don't know if I should really buy it right now anyway. But I might make an exception.

Most people consider the 960 the pinnicle of CRT tech, which is still better than LCD, plasma, DLP and other HDTVs after all these years (in my opinion, and many others at least). You still can't find a better black level than on a CRT. And you don't have to worry about burn-in or response time. Sure, the thing is HUGE, but so what? The picture is amazing, as long as you have the space for it. But I'm sure you know all of this, anyway.

where do you live?
 

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fat chance! i'll ask around though, see if one of my friends is looking for a new tv. dunno if they'd want a CRT. i've got a decent one myself and will go flat panel as soon as i find a new job
 

dark10x

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You still can't find a better black level than on a CRT.
Tell me about it.

I'm planning on building a new PC this year and I want to buy a new CRT to go along with it. There is a very nice Sony widescreen CRT out there, but it is basically impossible to purchase. I love my TV, but I sure do miss the inky blackness of a CRT (the only CRT I do own doesn't make a good PC display either as it is a TV not a PC monitor). :(

Good luck with selling it, JB. I hope you are happy with an LCD. It should help your eye strain, but I think you'll be disappointed with it at the same time (not that you have a choice at this point).
 

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As someone who just went from CRT to plasma, I just thought I'd chime in on black levels, as I found it more distracting than I thought it would be.

You might not find it a problem but I found that the Philips plasma that I bought did not have really good black levels. I didn't think it would be a problem but I found it distracting, particularly in games like Gears which has a lot of black and I would be looking at it thinking 'this is not black, it's grey'.

As luck would have it, the Philips broke down after three weeks and I exchanged it on the weekend for a Samsung plasma. It's black levels were nearly up to the Pioneer and having it for a few days I am thrilled, I'm not distracted anymore.

So when you have been watching CRTs for 20 or 30 years or whatever with their perfect blacks, check whether you will find the less-than-perfect blacks of other technologies distracting.

Details in the dark areas and how skin looks were also really important I found. It was a blessing in disguise being able to have a plasma for three weeks and then getting another chance to pick a TV knowing all the potential defects of the technology.
 

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Bildi said:
As someone who just went from CRT to plasma, I just thought I'd chime in on black levels, as I found it more distracting than I thought it would be.

You might not find it a problem but I found that the Philips plasma that I bought did not have really good black levels. I didn't think it would be a problem but I found it distracting, particularly in games like Gears which has a lot of black and I would be looking at it thinking 'this is not black, it's grey'.

As luck would have it, the Philips broke down after three weeks and I exchanged it on the weekend for a Samsung plasma. It's black levels were nearly up to the Pioneer and having it for a few days I am thrilled, I'm not distracted anymore.

So when you have been watching CRTs for 20 or 30 years or whatever with their perfect blacks, check whether you will find the less-than-perfect blacks of other technologies distracting.

Details in the dark areas and how skin looks were also really important I found. It was a blessing in disguise being able to have a plasma for three weeks and then getting another chance to pick a TV knowing all the potential defects of the technology.


QFMFT

Many "videophiles" don't seem to realize that it's not about what's new, it's what;s about what's best.
 

Bildi

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heavy liquid said:
QFMFT

Many "videophiles" don't seem to realize that it's not about what's new, it's what;s about what's best.

Absolutely. The ONLY reason I had to change from CRT was because my 23" Sony CRT was too small for the distance I was sitting from the TV (about 12 feet) and I found myself squinting, leaning forward or sitting on the floor.

I had looked at new technologies about a year ago thinking maybe they're getting close to CRTs and was completely and utterly unimpressed.

I looked at LCDs back then but they have traits in the way they handle colour and movement that I find distracting so they were out. Back then I did not consider plasmas. Recently I got tired of squinting so investigated TVs again and after much research and a few days of plugging in my stuff into TVs in the shop I ended up going with a 42" plasma.

At the end of the day, CRTs handle blacks, black details, and color gradation better that all other technologies and all the resolution in the world is useless if these elements are lacking.

Thankfully I find my plasma close enough to CRT that I don't get distracted by it, but in no respect would I ever say the picture is BETTER than a CRT (except for resolution and the screen is so much bigger at 42" that the actual dpi is less than the CRT so in that respect its questionable whether it has a resolution advantage as such).

Definitely annoys me how people jump on the 'newer is better' bandwagon. Size and resolution are the only advantages over CRT I think.
 
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JB1981 said:
The set is ISF calibrated. The calibration was done by this guy http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/

It's about as perfect a CRT as one could find. The problem I have is that it's causing me severe eye strain. I'm hoping to sell this beauty and move onto LCD tech (which appears to be a lot easier on my eyes). I love the TV. I use it basically every day and it performs like a champ, but the eye strain is becoming too much to take. I would be more than happy to sell it to a fellow Gaffer, but if that's not possible, what's the best place for me to get rid of this thing? I won't be happy parting with it, but I have to for the sake of my eyes.



I'm also interested in selling my Integra 7.1 DTR5.5 receiver. If I move to LCD I'm going to need a receiver with HDMI switching. The 5.5 has also been a great product.If anyone's interested please let me know. I'm located in Toms River, NJ.






1. Ebay
2. Today's paper.... put in an ad and someone will bound to make an offer.
3. Pawn shop
 

Dr_Cogent

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Shit, if you lived closer and the TV was priced right - I would scoop this up in a heartbeat.

Too bad your about 678 miles away.

CRT is STILL the best. Heavy, but best.

C'mon SED!!!!
 
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JB1981 said:
It's about as perfect a CRT as one could find. The problem I have is that it's causing me severe eye strain. I'm hoping to sell this beauty and move onto LCD tech (which appears to be a lot easier on my eyes).
Makes no sense.
 

dark10x

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Details in the dark areas and how skin looks were also really important I found. It was a blessing in disguise being able to have a plasma for three weeks and then getting another chance to pick a TV knowing all the potential defects of the technology.
Right on.

That's EXACTLY what I went through. Despite researching and testing these displays prior to purchasing, I ended up with a plasma that I was not pleased with last year. After struggling with various issues for a while, I sold it to a friend and went with a Pioneer. It solved nearly every problem. It was the knowledge of what problems existed that allowed me to choose correctly the second time. Of course, the blacks still aren't up to CRT quality and that continues to annoy me. I've gotten over it somewhat, but I won't be completely satisfied until we hit the point where blacks are truly black.

I'm not surprised by your Phillips experience, though.

I remain excited by Pioneer's next generation displays, though. Pure black in a dark room...just as it should be.

It IS important to realize what you lose when moving from a CRT, however. It's not an easy adjustment to make...
 

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I also have the XBR 960 and its a ****ing awesome tv my xbox360 games look amazing, but it does weight about 200lbs
 

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I have this TV and I love it. Eye strain? Have you tried prolonged viewing experiences with other sets to make sure you won't have the same issue?
 

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I have a similar model (wasn't going to pay for XBR), and I plan on selling mine in 6 months.

While I think it is a great TV, it's too small of a screen and it weighs too much. I refuse to lug that thing around when I can get a larger screen at 1/3 the weight.
 

Shawn

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You still can't find a better black level than on a CRT.

I sure do miss the inky blackness of a CRT.

Come on, if black level is the only defense one has for CRT displays, then, I'm sorry -- that's not enough to convince me to stick with yesterday's technology.

There are many other factors to consider when arguing one display technology over another.

Remember, black level is just one thing.

One thing.
 

snacknuts

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pxleyes said:
While I think it is a great TV, it's too small of a screen and it weighs too much. I refuse to lug that thing around when I can get a larger screen at 1/3 the weight.

I don't know how you guys use your TVs, but I put mine on an entertainment center and don't move it around unless I am rearranging furniture, so weight isn't really a factor for me.
 

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Shawn said:
Come on, if black level is the only defense one has for CRT displays, then, I'm sorry -- that's not enough to convince me to stick with yesterday's technology.

There are many other factors to consider when arguing one display technology over another.

Remember, black level is just one thing.

One thing.

Um, when it comes to image quality black levels/contrast levels are one of the biggest things, and CRTs still shine at it. Yeah, they're a pain to move, but exactly how often am I doing that? I'd rather take those black levels over the very rare occasion that I have to move it.
 

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CRT's overall color and contrast quality is still top-notch compared to LCD or plasma, but I can see why you would like to sell the TV if it is damaging your eyes. Dark tones in other style of monitors are a pain to watch for me since they don't look crisp or clear at all.
 

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What kinda price are you looking for? I might be/or know someone who is interested (I live in NY could drive to pickup).
 

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Awesome TV. The only thing I can't stand about it are the apature grill lines. Annoy the hell out of me.
 

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Right on.

That's EXACTLY what I went through. Despite researching and testing these displays prior to purchasing, I ended up with a plasma that I was not pleased with last year. After struggling with various issues for a while, I sold it to a friend and went with a Pioneer. It solved nearly every problem. It was the knowledge of what problems existed that allowed me to choose correctly the second time. Of course, the blacks still aren't up to CRT quality and that continues to annoy me. I've gotten over it somewhat, but I won't be completely satisfied until we hit the point where blacks are truly black.

I'm not surprised by your Phillips experience, though.

I remain excited by Pioneer's next generation displays, though. Pure black in a dark room...just as it should be.

It IS important to realize what you lose when moving from a CRT, however. It's not an easy adjustment to make...

Damn it, I wanted to order a 427xa next week, but still not sure if I will be satisfied with it. I really can't stand the blacks of my LCD, and I know they will be a bit better on the 427, but I'm not sure by how much.

I already got the stand for $80 from a friend.
 
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