What's your favorite conspiracy that's a fact and not a theory?

[DryvBy]

A friend and I like to discuss conspiracy theories for fun. I don't know how all these years I've managed to ignore this one but welcome to Operation Northwoods. It's not the craziest thing I've read that was true (that would still be MK Ultra or the "gay bomb"), but it's new to me. I always thought this was just some nutty conspiracy people passed around until last night.

Operation Northwoods was some evil plan by the CIA to have the US commit acts of terrorism on their own people in order to get the public/government onboard with a war in Cuba. Some of these false flags include "the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities"

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So what's your favorite conspiracy that came out to be true?

Edit: I've already seen what I feared: FALSE FLAG POSTS! We're looking for things that came out to the public as true.

Examples of theories that aren't proven: 9/11, moon landing, mass shootings, no one has ever dropped a nuclear bomb, UFO, bigfoot, Nessy...

 

[AngularSaxophone]

The moon landing was faked.

 

[appaws]

I think there is something about 9/11 that is not quite right.

I am not talking about the bullshit that "9/11 truthers" say about melting points of steel and all that shit. Or the people who make really outlandish claims about empty planes, trucks with explosives, etc. All nonsense.

I am only talking about the very realistic connections later discovered between some of the hijackers and agents of the US and Israeli governments. They could be coincidences...especially since they were Saudi citizens, and the intelligence assets of Saudi Arabia have deep connections with both the CIA and Mossad. Still, there is something there that we are not being told...

 

[Musky_Cheese]

The moon landing was faked.

which one?

 

[bad guy]

The Bay of Pigs Invasion

 

[AngularSaxophone]

I think there is something about 9/11 that is not quite right.

I am not talking about the bullshit that "9/11 truthers" say about melting points of steel and all that shit. Or the people who make really outlandish claims about empty planes, trucks with explosives, etc. All nonsense.

I am only talking about the very realistic connections later discovered between some of the hijackers and agents of the US and Israeli governments. They could be coincidences...especially since they were Saudi citizens, and the intelligence assets of Saudi Arabia have deep connections with both the CIA and Mossad. Still, there is something there that we are not being told...

You’re probably going to think I’m crazier than you already do but there weren’t any planes. None. Everything on TV was CG. it was either some kind of drone we hadn’t seen at that point in time or a missile. There used to be footage on YouTube but oddly enough it’s gone now. The only thing it comes up under is 9/11 ball theory and the footage is crappy.

*edit here it is


Something comes from the top right of the screen. Clearly not a plane and the trajectory doesn’t line up with any of the plane footage out there.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I wouldn't say this is my fav as it's grim but as I was talking about it today......
Jimmy Savile.

He was a UK t.v presenter for kids from the 70's to around the late 80's I think. He was extremely famous and did lots of charity work for hospitals around children's wards and other such things.

The conspiracy was that he was committing acts of sexual assault and that the BBC/ UK government were covering it up.
Turns out that it was all true but in fact it was far worse.

After his death a great deal started to surface in that he was possibly the UK's biggest sex offender to date.
It came to light that he was assaulting women, children (supposedly in the hundreds) and he was a necrophiliac.
British M.P's and a great deal of other people of power were also found to be committing sexual assaults on young children but were covering it up for one another.

 

[appaws]

You’re probably going to think I’m crazier than you already do but there weren’t any planes. None. Everything on TV was CG. it was either some kind of drone we hadn’t seen at that point in time or a missile. There used to be footage on YouTube but oddly enough it’s gone now. The only thing it comes up under is 9/11 ball theory and the footage is crappy.

These really out there things just work to discredit much more down to earth things about our "deep state."

 

[Airola]

You’re probably going to think I’m crazier than you already do but there weren’t any planes. None. Everything on TV was CG. it was either some kind of drone we hadn’t seen at that point in time or a missile. There used to be footage on YouTube but oddly enough it’s gone now. The only thing it comes up under is 9/11 ball theory and the footage is crappy.

*edit here it is


Something comes from the top right of the screen. Clearly not a plane and the trajectory doesn’t line up with any of the plane footage out there.

Dude, this thread is about conspiracy theories that have been proven to be right.
Whatever your opinion about the conspiratory nature of 9/11 is, none of it has been proven.
Perhaps you should start a thread about conspiracy theories in general.

 

[bad guy]

The ties between the Bin Laden family and the (president) Bush family.

 

[mushy tailspin]

That these mass shootings are fake

Lad Vegas shooting predicted 2 weeks prior

All of these mass shootings will have a visual or audio clue to the next one, and also all school shootings happen on days they are supposed to be having drills for the school in the case of a live shooting

 

[DryvBy]

Dude, this thread is about conspiracy theories that have been proven to be right.
Whatever your opinion about the conspiratory nature of 9/11 is, none of it has been proven.
Perhaps you should start a thread about conspiracy theories in general.

I was just about to post this lol.

 

[AngularSaxophone]

These really out there things just work to discredit much more down to earth things about our "deep state."

But they really aren’t out there. Take the pentagon and the Pennsylvania crash sites. Especially Pennsylvania. There’s barely any wreckage. No chairs, no shoes, no luggage. Pennsylvania was just a hole in the ground. I honestly think we were threatened of an even larger attack because what had happened was already so absurd and everyone involved went with the whole planes charade. There are many videos out there. Take a look if you really believe something wasn’t right about 9/11. You’re instincts have been correct. Start looking into no planes and you’ll find your answers.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

That these mass shootings are fake

 

[mushy tailspin]

Reread my post I added info

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Reread my post I added info

They aren’t fake.

 

[mushy tailspin]

They aren’t fake.

Says who?

Show me blood. Columbine has evidence of blood show me one other

 

[Airola]

But they really aren’t out there. Take the pentagon and the Pennsylvania crash sites. Especially Pennsylvania. There’s barely any wreckage. No chairs, no shoes, no luggage. Pennsylvania was just a hole in the ground. I honestly think we were threatened of an even larger attack because what had happened was already so absurd and everyone involved went with the whole planes charade. There are many videos out there. Take a look if you really believe something wasn’t right about 9/11. You’re instincts have been correct. Start looking into no planes and you’ll find your answers.

So it's easier to believe that every video with planes shown throughout the years have been faked than to believe that whatever videos you have seen on Youtube haven't?

I actually questioned the whole thing too back in, say, 2005-2006 and even argued about it for a while in some forum. Well, I didn't make any accusations but I "asked questions" like the conspiracy theorists use to do. Eventually when looking deeper into it I was embarrassed to admit I had been completely fooled. These "no-plane" scenarios were talked about even back then but that was something I never fell into because, gladly, I was straight away able to see through that sort of bullshit

 

[AngularSaxophone]

Dude, this thread is about conspiracy theories that have been proven to be right.
Whatever your opinion about the conspiratory nature of 9/11 is, none of it has been proven.
Perhaps you should start a thread about conspiracy theories in general.

Wow. Someone posted a thought about 9/11 that I happened to agree with so I replied. Sorry if that bothered you. I actually find it pretty telling that tons of the 9/11 videos that go against what we’ve been taught to believe have been removed. I hadn’t looked in awhile.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Says who?

Show me blood. Columbine has evidence of blood show me one other

Isn’t there videos of many of the shootings?

 

[mushy tailspin]

Isn’t there videos of many of the shootings?

They only recently released pulse and guess what no blood

There's proof las vegas had multiple shooters no proof They weren't blanks because that same weekend was a planned operation to see how people behave during an event like that yet the media sold it as real shooting coincidentally the same weekend as the announced op
Girl at event appeared on news was also at pulse shooting on news

The Florida op also had planned drill that day reports of just like all the others

Look into it. The shit stinks to high heaven. Its a grab for guns

 

[OH-MyCar]

That this thread is going to be great for people from other places to go "AHA! I CAUGHT THEM SAYING STUPID SHIT!".

(Nothing against the actual thread / OP. It's a perfectly good topic).

 

[Airola]

Wow. Someone posted a thought about 9/11 that I happened to agree with so I replied. Sorry if that bothered you

Hey, I'm trying to use the happy smilies offered by this forum to say it's not that much of a serious issue for me

Besides, you didn't just agree with a person who thought there was something fishy with it, but you actually brought in a theory of there being no planes at all (and showed even a video where it's implied there might've been UFOs around at that time). It's more like saying to the MK Ultra thing mentioned in the OP that you agree but there's also this Satan worshipping Illuminati group behind it all. You are then turning a factual or even a plausible thing into something completely else (I'm saying this with heavy heart because I'm very much interested about whole Illuminati thing myself )

Not that it matters that much but I think there is a huge difference in a thread where we are supposed to talk about the real conspiracies that were proven to be true than to just generally talking about any conspiracy out there. That said, maybe this thread could be used to discuss if some other theories could be true and discuss which ones could be more likely to be true - that could be interesting.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people would be commenting and criticizing on posts that fall under the unproven and even absurd categories, that's all.

EDIT:
I'm not sure which one gets into the deeper corner with this stuff though, you or mushy tailspin

 

[mushy tailspin]

Isn’t there videos of many of the shootings?

There's been proof of paid crisis actors at all of these events too. What's up with that?

Lets assume they're all real why did tons of people at law Vegas shooting who spoke out against it get heart attacked?

The one south of San Antonio which I was 15 miles away of the day happened had no bullet holes in or outside the church no blood. The only bullet hole was in a house across the street in side the house and the supposed exit hole of bullet was obviously an entry which makes no sense.
The metal bent inward was the size of a bullet. You ever shoot guns you know an exit points outward and the bullet would of expanded.


Not one of these events make a lick of sense yet the news says its true so throw logic out the window and believe it otherwise you're crazy. Yaaa no

 

[VulcanRaven]

You’re probably going to think I’m crazier than you already do but there weren’t any planes. None. Everything on TV was CG. it was either some kind of drone we hadn’t seen at that point in time or a missile. There used to be footage on YouTube but oddly enough it’s gone now. The only thing it comes up under is 9/11 ball theory and the footage is crappy.

There is a lot of footage of the planes hitting on Youtube.

 

[Airola]

I'm going to explain myself here a bit more.

There are different types of conspiracy theories:
1) The batshit crazy ones that wouldn't work even as a movie
2) Crazy, but interesting that could have grounds for an interesting film
3) Crazy, but actually plausible if you really think about it and it doesn't necessarily even sound like a 2 hour thriller plot.
4) Crazy, but "100% proven" as a fact by conspiracy theorists and their followers out there, but governments and officials deny it
5) Crazy, but actually 100% proven fact and even the goverments and officials aren't denying it.

This thread is about those in the fifth category. Even if you people believe in certain inside jobs and the use of crisis actors and have come to the only logical conclusion that they must be true, those conspiracies still won't fall into category 5.

I love conspiracy theories. The wilder the better. But the premise of this thread interests me in a much different way and that's why I think any other conspiracy theories should have another thread to talk about them. I don't mind off topic that much though so if this is where the discussion naturally goes and people like to talk about those other categories too instead of focusing on the original premise, I guess that's ok too.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

There's been proof of paid crisis actors at all of these events too. What's up with that?

Lets assume they're all real why did tons of people at law Vegas shooting who spoke out against it get heart attacked?

The one south of San Antonio which I was 15 miles away of the day happened had no bullet holes in or outside the church no blood. The only bullet hole was in a house across the street in side the house and the supposed exit hole of bullet was obviously an entry which makes no sense.
The metal bent inward was the size of a bullet. You ever shoot guns you know an exit points outward and the bullet would of expanded.


Not one of these events make a lick of sense yet the news says its true so throw logic out the window and believe it otherwise you're crazy. Yaaa no

Ok

 

[infinitys_7th]

I think there is something about 9/11 that is not quite right.

I am not talking about the bullshit that "9/11 truthers" say about melting points of steel and all that shit. Or the people who make really outlandish claims about empty planes, trucks with explosives, etc. All nonsense.

I am only talking about the very realistic connections later discovered between some of the hijackers and agents of the US and Israeli governments. They could be coincidences...especially since they were Saudi citizens, and the intelligence assets of Saudi Arabia have deep connections with both the CIA and Mossad. Still, there is something there that we are not being told...

A lot of the biggest crackpots in the conspiracy community are fed disinfo and lines by the intelligence community.

See the Paul Bennewitz case as a classic, and heartbreaking, example of the barely human IC monsters (in a figurative sense) destroying someone to cover up simple aircraft tests.

I'm sure a lot of the crackpottery around how the towers fell was intentionally planted to distract from legitimate questions, like KSA involvement.

 

[AngularSaxophone]

There is a lot of footage of the planes hitting on Youtube.

Aluminum planes can barely handle birds hitting the nose cones. There’s no way planes flew through buildings. It’s physically impossible.

 

[Beard of the Forest]

Limit discussion to the confines of the title please. Stick to conspiracies that have been proven to be true and not crazy youtuber rantings. Moon landing and 9/11 are off the table. I believe we have an official 9/11 conspiracy theory thread if you feel the need to discuss your thoughts on that matter.

 

[Mohonky]

That these mass shootings are fake

Lad Vegas shooting predicted 2 weeks prior

All of these mass shootings will have a visual or audio clue to the next one, and also all school shootings happen on days they are supposed to be having drills for the school in the case of a live shooting

You’re probably going to think I’m crazier than you already do but there weren’t any planes. None. Everything on TV was CG. it was either some kind of drone we hadn’t seen at that point in time or a missile. There used to be footage on YouTube but oddly enough it’s gone now. The only thing it comes up under is 9/11 ball theory and the footage is crappy.

*edit here it is


Something comes from the top right of the screen. Clearly not a plane and the trajectory doesn’t line up with any of the plane footage out there.

 

[mushy tailspin]

Go watch fox news they'll handle the thinking for you. They'll even make air plane sounds as they spoon feed it to you.

Everyone thinks its crazy until its proven true beyond all doubt which id say fake shootings, and inside job 9/11 have been. But until an alphabet agency admits to it this isn't the thread for it.

Yet your kind shits on everyone that can see things for what they are. It scares you

 

[infinitys_7th]

Aluminum planes can barely handle birds hitting the nose cones. There’s no way planes flew through buildings. It’s physically impossible.

They didn't "fly through the buildings". They just heavily damaged the floors near where they impacted, and the collapse of those floors destroyed the buildings.

It's all about kinetic energy.

 

[Tenderfood]

I am not sure if this is real or not but I have heard that Bill Cosby is half Jewish.

 

[Mohonky]

They didn't "fly through the buildings". They just heavily damaged the floors near where they impacted, and the collapse of those floors destroyed the buildings.

It's all about kinetic energy.

45+ tonnes of plane capable of nearly 900km/h......but how does it penetrate a building :/

 

[mushy tailspin]

They didn't "fly through the buildings". They just heavily damaged the floors near where they impacted, and the collapse of those floors destroyed the buildings.

It's all about kinetic energy.

And building 7?

A bird.

Anyone have a potato canon? Fire a coke can at thin piece of steel and watch what happens. Can will fold upon its self and open up much like a bullet. What it will not do is even scratch the steel

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[Mohonky]

And building 7?

A bird.

Anyone have a potato canon? Fire a coke can at thin piece of steel and watch what happens. Can will fold upon its self and open up much like a bullet. What it will not do is even scratch the steel

Do the calculations; you think the walls of a building, whose outter construction is concrete and glass, can sustain 11,000,000nm of force in an impact? What do you think would happen? The plane would crumble like a coke can and the building would incur a few scratches?

 

[mushy tailspin]

Do the calculations; you think the walls of a building, whose outter construction is concrete and glass, can sustain 11,000,000nm of force in an impact? What do you think would happen? The plane would crumble like a coke can and the building would incur a few scratches?

I think in under 2 hours numerous thick steel beams would crumble. A fire so hot a building across the street crumbled.

Its been proven it went down by controlled demolition. Thermite, 100s of accounts of hearing explosions, the direction of the blast smoke while it was falling, news anchor reading script early about a building falling while its still standing,
The unbelievable odds 3 buildings fell perfectly onto themselves. The fact government has been caught lying countless times but when the next thing happens they instantly get a clean slate and are to be trusted and those who don't are nuts.

Its alllll bullshit all of it. If its on the news its a lie. A feel good story of a dog rescuing a kid LIES.

They cried wolf, they continue to, and anyone still falling for its an idiot. Not my fault people need tragic events to fight for something

 

[appaws]

See, this is exactly what I was talking about. Plausible questions about the funding and movements of the attackers derailed by utter nonsense.

 

[JDB]

Man this forum is cancer

 

[TrainedRage]

My pick is the Black Night Satellite.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite_conspiracy_theory

According to some UFO conspiracists, the Black Knight is an artificial satellite of extraterrestrial origin which has orbited Earth for approximately 13,000 years; the "satellite" story is most likely a conflation of several disconnected stories about various objects and their interpretations,[4] all of them well documented independently.

I also believe it relates to Tesla in some way. And some say it has been sending transmission signals.

 

[TrainedRage]

Man this forum is cancer

That theory is unproven.

 

[JDB]

That theory is unproven.

I mean just go through your posts

 

[mr2xxx]

Can’t say I’m shocked

 

[TrainedRage]

I mean just go through your posts

I just did. They are all opinions by one person. Clearly this person is unstable and can't be trusted.

 

[infinitys_7th]

I think there is sufficient evidence to conclude now that UFOs represent something that is not:

1. Based on contemporary technology
2. Natural phenomenon

There are too many radar recordings showing objects making sudden turns at high speeds, and sightings where objects accelerate/deccelerate beyond natural possibility or our capabilities.

As I mentioned before, I think a lot of the "UFOs are from aliens" meme is a disinfo/discrediting plot by ICs to cover up something else we probably wouldn't expect.

 

[Deleted member 713885]

Have I told you about the Gulf of Tonkin?

Jaime, pull it up.

 

[John Day]

Holy shit I love this thread keep it coming hahahahahaha.

 

[the.acl]

That these mass shootings are fake

I don't necessarily believe that they're fake but I've entertained the idea.

If so, what's the agenda? To disarm the American people?

Even if they were fake, what's scary is that no one would believe it. Even with evidence, everyone would shake it off as conspiracy.