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Where did all this Jim Ryan hate come from?

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Jubenhimer

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Jim Ryan is the current President and CEO of Sony Interactive Entertainment (AKA PlayStation). His reception from PlayStation fans has been a bit mixed. While some people feel he's doing a solid job as captain of the PS ship, there also people who seem to think he's doing everything in his power to destroy the PlayStation brand. Now I'll be honest, I think Jim Ryan is fine as a business man, and he's probably a decent guy as well. But PR is certainly NOT one of his strongest skills. Ryan has a bit of a history with nonsensical PR statements and half-truths.

* Like how he explained the lack of PS1 games on PS4 was because "nobody wants to play old games".
* Or how he tried to explain Sony's lack of indie games at future E3s in the later PS3 years as them essentially being filler.
* Or how he laughably tried to damage control Sony's initial stance on cross-play as "Think of the children!"
* Or how he said that he felt cross-gen games were problematic to their goals with PS5... Before eventually revealing the first batch of PS5 titles will mostly be cross-gen.

And then there's some of the events that happened under him, which I don't think will be as bad as some people fear, and given how corporate politics work, aren't entirely his fault.

* PlayStation on PC - Sony's been very clear about their PC strategy with it being simply a marketing vehicle for PlayStation, not a central pillar of the ecosystem like Xbox. All of their PC releases thus far have been PS4 games released 3-4 years after their debut. I think that will remain the same for most titles going forward. In the meantime, Returnal, Demon's Souls, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Appart are all still PS5 exclusive.

* JAPAN Studio closue - JAPAN Studio died for a lot of reasons. It hadn't produced a single decent commercial hit aside from Astro Bot in recent years, the studio itself became an over-bloated mess, and a lot of the talent that made its best games, had already left Sony by that point. It basically became PlayStation's version of Nintendo R&D1. I imagine it was a very tough decision to make between Doucet, Hulst, and Ryan to kill it. But in the end, we got Team Asobi which is already hiring for bigger projects, and hopefully won't be just an Astro Bot factory, and the external production unit of the group was absorbed into XDev, so hopefully franchises like Hot Shots Golf still have a future.

Sony has done some good things under Ryan too don't forget.

* Expanded PlayStation Studios with some key acquisitions
* Nabbed Bungie, a studio that Microsoft used to own to assist with multiplayer development
* Ensured the PS5 had the best possible reveal and launch it could have given the worldwide events at the time
* Gave Yoshida his own personal group to help improve Sony's indie relations.

I think Ryan overall is doing okay running SIE, but I think he needs to at the very least, get a better PR team so that every word out of his mouth doesn't sound like somebody trying to cobble together lazy excuses.
 

kyliethicc

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People love to hate on beautiful people

Look at this chad

 

Jubenhimer

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Just look at your positives vs your negatives and you got your answer.
So one negative trait, one unfortunate, but understandable in hindsight decision, and one decision that's not as radical as people hype it up as... vs. 4 good things that happened under him. Sure.
 

Saber

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Is this a real question or is this one of those "I don't understand the hate because I think differently"?

The guys has its cons and thats enought reason for dislike. Surprising is to believe that everyone should like him.
 
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I know some people is gonna hate me for saying this, I don't give a shit

The best thing he did is bringing more PS exclusives to PC, there I said it
 
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Not gonna mince words here and will trigger many......

Fuck Jimbo Ryan, I'm not gonna hide my hatred towards this motherfucker,

hmm...where do I start

- He's the biggest woke activist in the gaming industry. disgusting!!
- He killed PS4 early, one of the best system in history, my favorite system. PS4 would've gone to 130-135 millions lifetime sale number
- He killed Sony Japan Studio. My favorite studio. The studio that made ICO, The Last Guardian, Shadow of Colossus, Gravity Rush, co-developed Demon's Souls and Bloodborne; all my favorite games by the way.....

he's the main reason I abandoned PlayStation platform. Now I wish PS5 to fail, so Sony can remove his ass
 
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Jubenhimer

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Is this a real question or is this one of those "I don't understand the hate because I think differently"?

The guys has its cons and thats enought reason for dislike. Surprising is to believe that everyone should like him.
What I'm saying is that he isn't that great at PR... But I don't think that's enough reason to hate him with a burning passion. You may not like what he says sometimes, and that's a good reason to not like him that much... But people act like he's murdering PlayStation or something, when the PS5 is the fastest selling console in Sony's history even with its shortages.
 
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Not gonna mince words here and will trigger many......

Fuck Jimbo Ryan, I'm not gonna hide my hatred towards this motherfucker,

hmm...where do I start

- He's the biggest woke activist in the gaming industry. disgusting!!
- He killed PS4 early, one of the best system in history, my favorite system. PS4 would've gone to 130-135 millions lifetime sale number
- He killed Sony Japan Studio. My favorite studio. The studio that made ICO, The Last Guardian, Shadow of Colossus, Gravity Rush, co-developed Demon's Souls and Bloodborne; all my favorite games by the way.....

he's the main reason I abandoned PlayStation platform. Now I wish PS5 to fail, so Sony can remove his ass

Wait..is this satire?
 
- He's the biggest woke activist in the gaming industry. disgusting!!
I agree with this one particularly, but this is disgusting no matter who we are talking about, when Phil Spencer declared cross-platform ban for hate speech, this when I begin to dislike him too. But I think that's just the general trend now.
 
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kingpotato

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Jim Ryan is the current President and CEO of Sony Interactive Entertainment (AKA PlayStation).
You answered your own question in the first line.

- He killed PS4 early, one of the best system in history, my favorite system. PS4 would've gone to 130-135 millions lifetime sale number
They are literally still manufacturing and selling them... Also they made sure many of their top first party games are still coming to ps4 even now. It's not dead and it was definitely time for the ps5. What do lifetime sales numbers matter? Do you measure your dick with PlayStation sales figures or what?
 

Saber

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What I'm saying is that he isn't that great at PR... But I don't think that's enough reason to hate him with a burning passion. You may not like what he says sometimes, and that's a good reason to not like him that much... But people act like he's murdering PlayStation or something, when the PS5 is the fastest selling console in Sony's history even with its shortages.

I don't think it's much different from people praising him as a god or something(like its a savior or sort). People often say "console warriors" as excuse when they are pretty much the same coin only with a different side. And please, saying like "burning passion" sounds as if you're entering the internet for the first time. People tends to exaggerate when expressing themselves over the internet, and since we can't actually say for sure whats passing on the typers mind or seeing them face to face we reach that extreme conclusion.
 
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