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Where do we go from here PlayStation Nation?

Interfectum

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IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.
 
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yurinka

Member
IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.
Sony is the market leader and is growing in all their areas, and will continue being the market leader because even adding Zenimax and ABK revenue MS will continue being under them (in the best case where MS would keep them multi to maxize their revenue).

Out of the 3 Sony continues to be:
-Top 1 in gaming revenue
-Top 1 in active console active userbase
-Top 1 in sofware sales for consoles
-Top 1 in game subscriptions

Regarding 1st party sales they had this generation around half a dozen of them selling over 15M copies (aprox. the same than Switch), with some be released soon (Horizon 2, GT7 and GoW) or already released with potential to achieve them. And now they'll add on top of that Destiny 2. Bungie is working in multiple new IPs and plans to release "at least one" (so probably two) before 2025, but I assume these new IPs will be next gen only.

Sony 1st party sales are growing and even more now with the PC ports. They are also growing all their internal teams and working on more acquisitions. So by following this path they'll pass Nintendo in terms of 1st party sales. And this isn't counting GaaS or 2nd & 3rd party exclusives.

MS is the only one who focus on subscriptions. Sony's game subs are bigger in terms of subscribers and revenues, and is a profitable business, but it's a small part of their business. Their main focus is their consoles because their main business is to sell games for them.

Obviously MS, a.k.a. the 3rd, won't dictate nothing to the market leader. And same goes Sony Pictures, SIE is expanding their business so they will license their games IPs to allow people use them, like Sony Pictures or HBO.
 
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GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.
Yup. Not sure when it was determined that the last place console dictate anything or that Gamepass was the future.

Sony should just let MS stay the outlier who is desperately trying to give their shit away. It's worked so far and devalues the brand.

I'm not a Nintendo fan but they're smart to release their low budget products at a premium. It makes them maintain their value.

Sony games are valuable and not trash that should be given away in a Gamepass service.
 

Interfectum

Member
Out of the 3 Sony continues to be:
-Top 1 in gaming revenue
-Top 1 in active console active userbase
-Top 1 in sofware sales for consoles
-Top 1 in game subscriptions
This is thanks to their decisions with PS4, not PS5. We have no idea the repercussions of them going multiplatform or game rentals are yet.

And Sony is certainly not acting like they are at the top of the gaming industry as they are literally copying every move MS has made. Microsoft is in the driver's seat now and Sony seems cool with that.
 
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Interfectum

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Regarding 1st party sales they had this generation around half a dozen of them selling over 15M copies (aprox. the same than Switch), with some be released soon (Horizon 2, GT7 and GoW) or already released with potential to achieve them. And now they'll add on top of that Destiny 2. Bungie is working in multiple new IPs and plans to release "at least one" (so probably two) before 2025, but I assume these new IPs will be next gen only.
Even the Bungie purchase has made Sony look weak. Not only does it go against their entire organic growth stance, the announcement made it seem like Bungie was the alpha in this purchase. I've never seen a press release like the one Bungie had after a purchase like this before.
 

Concern

Member
Even the Bungie purchase has made Sony look weak. Not only does it go against their entire organic growth stance, the announcement made it seem like Bungie was the alpha in this purchase. I've never seen a press release like the one Bungie had after a purchase like this before.

I agree it all unfolded weirdly but we have to wait and see how it plays out. Might just be lip service by Bungie to not discourage Destiny players.
 

Punished Miku

Gold Member
Even the Bungie purchase has made Sony look weak. Not only does it go against their entire organic growth stance, the announcement made it seem like Bungie was the alpha in this purchase. I've never seen a press release like the one Bungie had after a purchase like this before.
Weak or not, it was just the purchase they needed to make. They basically have no shooters now, so that's one of their main weaknesses. Best to cover that gap then pretend it's not a weakness.

But yeah, everything about the deal is a little odd. The price, their independence, etc. Guess we'll see.
 

Interfectum

Member
I agree it all unfolded weirdly but we have to wait and see how it plays out. Might just be lip service by Bungie to not discourage Destiny players.
Sure but if Sony were in the driver's seat it would have been better for a line like: "Destiny 2 will still be available for all platforms but the best place to play is and will always be on Playstation."

It feels like, to me, Sony and Sony Pictures have cracked open PlayStation and are now dictating the business going forward. Personally I don't think Jim Ryan is good at his job and Playstation would benefit from someone with an actual vision for the future.
 
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Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.

The funny thing is, Sony of Japan could have easily continued onwards and built even greater heights for itself. There are a TON of amazing Japanese/Asian dev teams that would prefer to release on Playstation over Xbox (due to it being a very poor selling console in the east) and Nintendo (due to its hardware limitations), however they have actively pushed them away and pissed them off over the past 5 years.

Instead Sony of California is doing what Hollywood does. Focusing on developing by-the-numbers titles that are “shiny” rather than deep. Easily forgettable and disposable experiences. A few titles here and there break that mold, but it is becoming increasingly rare to find them in their first party line up. At least for me personally.

Glad others can find enjoyment out of them, but I would so much prefer Sony prior to 2015 back.
 

yurinka

Member
This is thanks to their decisions with PS4, not PS5. We have no idea the repercussions of them going multiplatform or game rentals are yet.

And Sony is certainly not acting like they are at the top of the gaming industry as they are literally copying every move MS has made. Microsoft is in the driver's seat now and Sony seems cool with that.
The only thing that stops PS5 to destroy all console gaming history records set by PS4 is the chips shortages. Even when they were able to ship PS5 consoles at gaming history records the consoles were selling out in minutes worldwide. The demand for PS5 is insane. Metrics from YouTube and social media set by PS5 back this.

And according to Sony the average user engagement in PS5 is higher than in PS4. Which means people plays more, so ends buying more.

PS Plus/PS Plus Collection and PS Now didn't change anyhting, if somehing if in PS5 they raised the engagement maybe it's due to PS Plus Collection because it's the only main difference wiht PS4. Gamepass didn't negatively affect PS, Sony is posting their best numbers ever (outside the lower thtan expected hardware shipments this quarter due to chips shortage) these years and are in a multi year growing trend in terms of revenue, profit, console sales, game subs, 1st party sales and total console game (including 3rd party) sales/revenue.

Nah, it's the opposite. MS is the one who mostly has been copying PS, the market leader:
-MS did buy many big gamedev studios because Sony had way more than them
-MS did buy many big (still currently top and relevant) IPs because Sony had way more than them
-With the exception of PS4 due to bizarre martian PS3 hardware, all PS were BC (but yes, MS implementation is better)
-Play Anywhere is MS's copy of Sony's Crossbuy
-Gamepass/xCloud is MS's copy of PS Now, even if MS implemented first some things Sony already mentioned as their long term plans back in 2014
-Sony has been toying with mobile games since decades ago until they got their first hit with Fate/Grand Order ($1B+/year)

Later this generation you'll see Microsoft joining the VR wagon.

The main strategies that Sony are copying from MS are:
-Bringing (in their case some, not all) their games to PC (but not day one)
-Buying multiplatform publishers and keep them multiplatform, so becoming a 3rd party for other consoles
-Adding (if Bloomberg isn't lying again) a PS Now tier with only the download parts, so since it wouldn't include cloud gaming would be available worldwide

MS made some strategy other changes that are the main differences and that Sony won't follow:
-To keep their main focus out of console (it's Sony's main business so even if expanding to new markets they'll still focus on PS)
-To release all their games and to do it day one on PC (because their main busines is PS, wants to keep exclusive selling points there)
-To include all their games on a game sub and to do it day one (because their main busines is PS, wants to keep exclusive selling points there)

And remember, the Bungie acquisition started half a year ago and the ABK acquisition started a month ago. So the Bungie acquisition isn't a reaction to the ABK acquisition.

The funny thing is, Sony of Japan could have easily continued onwards and built even greater heights for itself. There are a TON of amazing Japanese/Asian dev teams that would prefer to release on Playstation over Xbox (due to it being a very poor selling console in the east) and Nintendo (due to its hardware limitations), however they have actively pushed them away and pissed them off over the past 5 years.

Instead Sony of California is doing what Hollywood does. Focusing on developing by-the-numbers titles that are “shiny” rather than deep. Easily forgettable and disposable experiences. A few titles here and there break that mold, but it is becoming increasingly rare to find them in their first party line up. At least for me personally.

Glad others can find enjoyment out of them, but I would so much prefer Sony prior to 2015 back.
Sony Japan continues being in charge of Sony, PlayStation and SIE.

Japan Studio got restructured to be rebranded, to change its management, to fire some people and hire other people. Plus in the same way they did in all the other areas of the world, now every regional XDEV team reports to XDEV instead to local gamedev studios. Both Japan Studio (now known as Team Asobi, name of one of its previous internal teams, where now the studio is focused) and their XDEV Japanese teams are growing in headcount and continue doing their previous work.

Team Asobi is working on internally developed games and XDEV Japan continues publishing Japanese 2nd party games, they published Death Stranding Director's Cut after the restructuring.

PS continues getting many Japanese 3rd party exclusives and according to Jimbo they are working to strengthening bonds with Japanese 3rd parties, and in overall (not only Japanese or 3rd party) they plan to have more exclusives than ever. They have at least a PS4 exclusive of any known Japanese 3rd party. And they also get all 3rd party Japanese multiplatform games, only a few 3rd party important games are Xbox or Switch exclusives, and in many cases are timed.

And not only counting the Japanese ones, in the last decade PS exclusives dominated the GOTY awards and have been selling bettter than ever before. So their quality seems to be better now, or at least people seems to like them more.
 
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yurinka

Member
Even the Bungie purchase has made Sony look weak. Not only does it go against their entire organic growth stance, the announcement made it seem like Bungie was the alpha in this purchase. I've never seen a press release like the one Bungie had after a purchase like this before.
Sony did buy a partner they had since almost a decade ago, the talent that revolutionized the FPS games and the MP with Halo and Destiny. And that Destiny brand, the fastest selling one and second biggest MMO setting also a new bar popularizing GaaS on console and becoming one of the most popular ones. Buying the company thtey also buy their upcoming IPs, at least a couple of them to be released in a few year, that it's fair to assume they can be at least as big as influential as their previous one were.

Plus Sony also will milk these IPs on cinema/tv shows/animation, and will use this knowledge, expertise, data and tools to improve the other FPS, MP and GaaS being made in PS Studios. And well, Destiny 2 continues making a lot of money and has a roadmap to continue releasing expansions during some years more.

Aaron Greenberg has Twitter profile of a Sony mascot that was very popular, relevant and influntial decades ago but isn't as popular anymore, even more than what happened with Halo.

But guess what, Sony has the talent that made both Crash Bandicoot and Halo, the best games of the series that made them that important and relevant. They have Naughty Dog making Uncharted and TLOU, and Bungie making Destiny and potentially huge new IPs, and even also Deviation making a 2nd party new IP that will be also owned by Sony.

With this movements Sony also secures all Destiny and future Bungie IPs to be on PS and Sony's game subscriptions. And if Jimbo wants to block them from appearing in rival platforms or subscriptions.

The alpha is Jimbo, who bought all this for only $2.4B+$12B in retention bonuses he bought 100% of Bungie and their IPs. For now he will allow them to continue selfpublishing as multitplatform publisher under SIE, without integrating them under PS Studios or without forcing them to be exclusive. And having full creative freedom like the PS Studios. Maybe this is why they wanted to leave MS and decided to sell their companies and IPs to Sony. If in the future Jimbo changes his mind he will be able to do whatever he wants with Bungie and their IPs because their owner now won't be Bungie's bosses, their owner now is SIE.

Meanwhile with ABK MS overpaid with $68.7B a shitshow with Activision focusing all their studios on CoD whose most recent game underperformed, Blizzard with WoW being passed by the PS console exclusive Final Fantasy XIV Endwalker, Diablo specific controversies and concerns, Overwatch 2 issues, many old IPs that aren't relevant anymore, and many key staff who left, other staff creating the harassment controversies, other staff making strikes, etc.

MS will have a huge studio management challenge puttting order there, firing who needs to be fired, hiring who needs to be hired and maybe bringing back some needed key staff, fixing the development issues some teams have, revive the underperforming IPs and maybe to bring back and make relevant some old IPs with potential. But well, we know how "good" MS is with studio management, specially those big acquired ones. Specially compared to Sony.
 
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3liteDragon

Member
Even the Bungie purchase has made Sony look weak. Not only does it go against their entire organic growth stance, the announcement made it seem like Bungie was the alpha in this purchase. I've never seen a press release like the one Bungie had after a purchase like this before.
Sure but if Sony were in the driver's seat it would have been better for a line like: "Destiny 2 will still be available for all platforms but the best place to play is and will always be on Playstation."

It feels like, to me, Sony and Sony Pictures have cracked open PlayStation and are now dictating the business going forward. Personally I don't think Jim Ryan is good at his job and Playstation would benefit from someone with an actual vision for the future.
The alpha is Jimbo, who bought all this for only $2.4B+$12B in retention bonuses he bought 100% of Bungie and their IPs.
You guys really need to watch this video in full, the deal’s a big win for Sony & it’s not $2.4B + $1.2B for the employees like some are implying on here, he specifically calls out Paul Tussi from Forbes & a GAF member regarding this.

 

Concern

Member
Sure but if Sony were in the driver's seat it would have been better for a line like: "Destiny 2 will still be available for all platforms but the best place to play is and will always be on Playstation."

It feels like, to me, Sony and Sony Pictures have cracked open PlayStation and are now dictating the business going forward. Personally I don't think Jim Ryan is good at his job and Playstation would benefit from someone with an actual vision for the future.


I don't think he is either. The PlayStation brand sells itself. That idiot didn't have to do anything literally.

But for all we're doing here is assuming. Just have to see how it plays out. Couldn't care less for destiny but I'd like to see what they do next.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
Sony Japan continues being in charge of Sony, PlayStation and SIE.

Japan Studio got restructured to be rebranded, to change its management, to fire some people and hire other people. Plus in the same way they did in all the other areas of the world, now every regional XDEV team reports to XDEV instead to local gamedev studios. Both Japan Studio (now known as Team Asobi, name of one of its previous internal teams, where now the studio is focused) and their XDEV Japanese teams are growing in headcount and continue doing their previous work.

Team Asobi is working on internally developed games and XDEV Japan continues publishing Japanese 2nd party games, they published Death Stranding Director's Cut after the restructuring.

PS continues getting many Japanese 3rd party exclusives and according to Jimbo they are working to strengthening bonds with Japanese 3rd parties, and in overall (not only Japanese or 3rd party) they plan to have more exclusives than ever. They have at least a PS4 exclusive of any known Japanese 3rd party. And they also get all 3rd party Japanese multiplatform games, only a few 3rd party important games are Xbox or Switch exclusives, and in many cases are timed.

And not only counting the Japanese ones, in the last decade PS exclusives dominated the GOTY awards and have been selling bettter than ever before. So their quality seems to be better now, or at least people seems to like them more.

Playstation had moved their HQ to California back in 2016. For all intents and purposes, the Playstation branch is now an American company with modern (regressive) Californian* sensibilities. If it were truly still a Japanese company they would not be allowing the hypocritical and draconian levels of censorship to continue unabated, especially on Japanese titles.

I have no doubt that Jim is saying such, but the reality is that many Japanese developers and gamers are not happy with Sony since the move. Check any major Japanese social media and you will see a lot of outcry. Hell, it has gotten to the point that devs have actively pursued to not release games on Playstation over its competitors (so no, they do NOT get ”all Japanese 3rd party multiplatform games”). Some have even released middle finger versions to Sony (look up Omega Lab Life for example).

Jim is a talking figure head. I don’t trust a word that comes out of his mouth. I need to see action, and so far I have seen nothing in regards to Cali-based Playstation making amends and working to get Japanese devs back. They continue to needlessly censor Japanese titles while letting far worse content continue uncensored in western titles.

GotY awards mean nothing. Using it as a gauge for anything is utterly meaningless and actively works against any point you are making.
 
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yurinka

Member
You guys really need to watch this video in full, the deal’s a big win for Sony & it’s not $2.4B + $1.2B for the employees like some are implying on here, he specifically calls out Paul Tussi from Forbes & a GAF member regarding this.


Great video, it's very well explained. Sony bought the Bungie stocks from Bungie employees and the total price is $3.6B.

Notice that the people who had the Bungie stocks were the Bungies employees and are the same people who Sony wants to retain.

Sony will pay them upfront these $2.4B (2/3 of the total) once they close the acquisition, and then will pay the remaining third split during the next few years (typically between 2 and 5) if they stay working at Bungie, acting as a retention bonus.

For Sony it's great because allows them to retain people while also allows them to spread the cost of the acquisition over multiple years.

Fun fact: In the previous studio where I did work it was sold twice and in both cases signed a retention bonus due to the acquisition. And then, separated from that we had a different retention bonus: stock options. Basically you sign a deal that if in X years you continue in the company you'll be able to buy a X amount of stocks at a cheap price, and they offer you to buy it at price above the one in the market.
 
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Bo_Hazem

Banned
Great video, it's very well explained. Sony bought the Bungie stocks from Bungie employees and the total price is $3.6B.

Notice that the people who had the Bungie stocks were the Bungies employees and are the same people who Sony wants to retain.

Sony will pay them upfront these $2.4B (2/3 of the total) once they close the acquisition, and then will pay the remaining third split during the next few years (typically between 2 and 5) if they stay working at Bungie, acting as a retention bonus.

For Sony it's great because allows them to retain people while also allows them to spread the cost of the acquisition over multiple years.

It's a great, competent, and tested studio with healthy environment for better things to come. Really enjoyed your input and I'm very optimistic of what's next from PS. Jim is no joke and he'll keep PS leading the home console and the world mindset since the dawn of PS1.
 
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IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.
I think your looking at this wrong ....

1. Sony is following what Nintendo is doing which is creating great IP and turning those IP into other forms of media to expand. Think ghost of tsumui, last of us and Uncharted.

2. MS is providing access to the same 3rd party games day one like Rainbow Six Extraction, MLB, etc for $9.99 a month compared to Sony charging full price upfront. They have to have an answer for that are else it will get worst. For example, what if a game like Elden Ring was available in game pass day one? That would be a very bad look for Sony from a consumer standpoint. Sony needs a counter service to further entice gamers to buy and keep playing on playstation and creating a subscription service so they can at least offer these same games day one for the same price as game pass would make a lot of sense even if they don't put new first party games in that service day one.

3. Sony can and already is competing on a higher level than MS. Just think about, this year alone Sony as more highly anticipated games and the PS5 is outselling Xbox even with the massive shortages. Xbox is doing a great job of trying to catch up but they still suffer from the same issue that will not be fixed for another 2-3 years and that's creating great exclusive new games/IP. Sure, we all are looking forward to redfall and starfield but we have no idea what those games will turn out to be.

4. Jim Ryan's biggest mistake was lying about the cross gen stuff early on but I think the moves he has made are not bad. We still need to give him more time, people quickly forget the PS4 had a amazing Gen and PS5 gen just started.

I think the industry is going in a better direction, games are becoming more accessible through things like game pass and all 3 of the big gaming companies (Nintendo, Xbox and PlayStation) are doing well and trying to put out better games. This year alone each company as at least one highly anticipated game coming out, when was the last time that happened?
 
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nowhat

Member
So I'm not going to read all of the pages, apologies if this obvious joke has been already made, but as for the direction:

 

BreakOut

Member
I think your looking at this wrong ....

1. Sony is following what Nintendo is doing which is creating great IP and turning those IP into other forms of media to expand. Think ghost of tsumui, last of us and Uncharted.

2. MS is providing access to the same 3rd party games day one like Rainbow Six Extraction, MLB, etc for $9.99 a month compared to Sony charging full price upfront. They have to have an answer for that are else it will get worst. For example, what if a game like Elden Ring was available in game pass day one? That would be a very bad look for Sony from a consumer standpoint. Sony needs a counter service to further entice gamers to buy and keep playing on playstation and creating a subscription service so they can at least offer these same games day one for the same price as game pass would make a lot of sense even if they don't put new first party games in that service day one.

3. Sony can and already is competing on a higher level than MS. Just think about, this year alone Sony as more highly anticipated games and the PS5 is outselling Xbox even with the massive shortages. Xbox is doing a great job of trying to catch up but they still suffer from the same issue that will not be fixed for another 2-3 years and that's creating great exclusive new games/IP. Sure, we all are looking forward to redfall and starfield but we have no idea what those games will turn out to be.

4. Jim Ryan's biggest mistake was lying about the cross gen stuff early on but I think the moves he has made are not bad. We still need to give him more time, people quickly forget the PS4 had a amazing Gen and PS5 gen just started.

I think the industry is going in a better direction, games are becoming more accessible through things like game pass and all 3 of the big gaming companies (Nintendo, Xbox and PlayStation) are doing well and trying to put out better games. This year alone each company as at least one highly anticipated game coming out, when was the last time that happened?
I think Sony is diversifying and that’s a good thing. As long as they stay true to what made them first place. Personally I don’t see them giving that up because it seems like they are very painfully aware of why they are where they are. So tapping in the new markets while maintaining what they know brought them to first place can ensure that they stay financially stable if Microsoft makes another huge disruption to the industry. Time will tell but I don’t think that they are going to abandon anything that made them where they are. (Single player, high quality, worth a big price tag shit) It seems like they are hyper aware of how they found success.
 
Yup. Not sure when it was determined that the last place console dictate anything or that Gamepass was the future.

Sony should just let MS stay the outlier who is desperately trying to give their shit away. It's worked so far and devalues the brand.

I'm not a Nintendo fan but they're smart to release their low budget products at a premium. It makes them maintain their value.

Sony games are valuable and not trash that should be given away in a Gamepass service.

You know you talking to a fanboy when people say "MS gives all their **** away for free".... When all they do is give a 11 for a month. The conversion will set you back about £121 a year minimum. Also are we calling games like Fh5, Psychonauts, flight Simulator trash? And upcoming ones like Elderscrolls and Starfield?
 
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I think Sony is diversifying and that’s a good thing. As long as they stay true to what made them first place. Personally I don’t see them giving that up because it seems like they are very painfully aware of why they are where they are. So tapping in the new markets while maintaining what they know brought them to first place can ensure that they stay financially stable if Microsoft makes another huge disruption to the industry. Time will tell but I don’t think that they are going to abandon anything that made them where they are. (Single player, high quality, worth a big price tag shit) It seems like they are hyper aware of how they found success.

God of War 2018 is their best selling game on the PS4 at 19 million copies sold. They are not giving up single player games any time soon but they are smart enough to know they have to change with the times and add more value and variety to stay competitive.
 
IMO Playstation should have stayed the course and followed Nintendo's lead... instead they are letting the the platform in last place dictate the terms. Sony cannot compete on the level that MS is playing right now. Going down this multiplatform / subscription route is exactly what MS wants them to do. Jim Ryan has no vision for what games should be. He's going to let Sony Pictures and Microsoft dictate the direction of the Playstation business.

No doubt, 5-10 years from now people will be reminiscing about the PS4-era Sony and game industry as a whole.
Good thing Sony isn't doing what the platform that's in last place is doing. They aren't going for a subscription route... They are still releasing their games at full price and Jim has said multiple times they won't be releasing their games day one on any subscription service. Hell Spartacus seems more like a "Playstation legacy" kind of service than anything else where you're getting old PS games and will start to get PS5 games like PS Now has PS4 games already. In no way that's related to what Gamepass is.

And saying Jim Ryan is letting Sony Picture and Microsoft dictate the direction of PlayStation is nonsense considering what's happening right now. Their studios are either working on single player games OR multiplayer / live service games. In what way is this letting MS and Sony Pictures dictate anything? Are we witnessing Naughty Dog doing an Uncharted game again because a new movie is going to be released?

If anything, Sony has always remained quiet and doing exactly what they have always done: Their own thing. Gamepass is like 5 years old and i don't see Sony rushing or scared of anything.

I mean we get god knows how many topics on how Sony needs to react to MS, because they have to...and then your post says how much they are reacting to MS? I don't see how. Even their acquisition strategy is completely different to MS.
 
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