Nankatsu
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Have a gearless Sam Fisher searching loot boxes for gear.
I wouldn't mind they tackled the next Splinter Cell like the latest Hitman.
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Where the hell is Splinter Cell?
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Have a gearless Sam Fisher searching loot boxes for gear.
I wouldn't mind they tackled the next Splinter Cell like the latest Hitman.
hyperbertha
Member
Fans love good games, its not their 'fault' that they didn't support it. That's some logic. They just didn't like the direction the series was going and rightfully so. If Ubisoft takes an established series in a different direction, and it doesn't do well, that's entirely on them. Bring back the REAL splinter cell, not this action hero bullshit.
And no conviction isn't even responsible for the marking system in games.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
It died when they started having daylight levels. Also there were way too many games. Nowadays Ubi just uses it to troll people into Ghost Recon DLC.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Ubisoft has yet to find a way to monetize it beyond the initial buy in fee.
HaveButOneLife
Banned
I can't get into stealth games, I really want to get into Thief especially but they're tough games, I've never been good at stealth.
Arachnid
Member
If you have an Xbox One, the digital versions of both the 360 and OG Xbox Double Agent games are on it. The OG Xbox version is better, and more in line with Chaos Theory gameplay.
I'm still waiting for an OG Xbox emulator so I can finally play the original version of Double Agent. I heard good things about it. They really dropped the ball on the next gen versions.
Thief is is a great stealth game. I'd say keep trying to get into the genre. There's a learning curve to it but once you get past that, all stealth games share a lot in common. Thief is one of the harder ones, so you could come back to it. The main and most basic idea is keeping all enemy view cones in a small area in mind to plan a path through. After that, you just have to take secondary stealth gameplay aspects into account like lighting and speed (or even surfaces you're sneaking on depending on the game).
Start with third person stealth. That's the easiest since you know exactly what the enemy sees and you can position the main character accordingly. I'd actually recommend the Metal Gear series. It's more simplistic in stealth than something like Splinter Cell or Thief. You really only have to worry about view cones and camo index. Then go to Splinter Cell. It's a bit more involve/difficult, but still third person. After that, end off on the original Thief games. They are hardcore stealth games in first person which makes it more difficult (if you need a good bridge to first person stealth, try out Deus Ex or Dishonored 2; hell try those anyways, fantastic games).
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HaveButOneLife
Banned
I played some of Chaos Theory and thought it was pretty tough too, my issue is with patience.
I own all of the Deus Ex games as well, I'm at the beginning of Mankind Divided but it's already good.
Arachnid
Member
Yeah, patience is a big part of the genre. If you're not patient and can't get past that (which is OK), try out the more aggressive stealth games that work better on the move like Splinter Cell: Blacklist and MGSV.
I also recommend starting with Human Revolution before Mankind Divided. HR is MUCH better (also they both follow the same protagonist),
HaveButOneLife
Banned
It's funny because I'm actually very patient IRL, I guess I just figure I don't have much time to play some genres so I can't get into them.
I do understand that the Deus Ex games follow the same protagonist, don't know about the first few though. I should play more MD but should definitely get on HR on PC first.
MarlboroRed
Member
Sadly I do not. There is also the PS2/GC versions, which are (more or less) the same from what I gather, and can be emulated very well today, but the OG Xbox allowed the devs to do things with the lighting that simply wasnt possible on the other consoles. And in a game like Splinter Cell, lighting is part of the gameplay.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Wasn’t it because Blacklist didn’t sell well enough/meet expectations, so they put any sequels or future releases on the back burner?
Arachnid
Member
I couldn't even tell you. I had all the Splinter Cell games on Xbox bought the second they were put out but I just happened to see it on sale last week. I haven't heard anything about them adding BC games so that's weird since the SC games were the very last wave of BC games added.
Likewise. If it weren't for your earlier post I wouldn't have even known. There was no announcement or anything. The last OG Xbox game I remember being added to the BC program was SSX3.
I've been wanting to play the Xbox version of DA for years.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
From what i've heard, Sam Fisher trapped in a tower roof while he was trying to figure out where to go next.
IfuckinghateReddit
Banned
Where the hell is Syphon Filter?
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Unknown Soldier
Member
I never played Ghost Recon: Wildlands but this is a video of the Sam Fisher mission in that game.
Arachnid
Member
Man, the way he delivers that line. GOAT voice actor
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Memorabilia
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Sybrix
Member
Likely explanation is they have been trying to figure out how to bring it to today's market, when you have games like Ghost Recon, Assassins Creed and Watchdogs..... where does Splinter Cell fit in with all that?
I would love a return to Splinter Cell of old but not sure if it would sell as well as they'd want.
To me Watchdogs was their attempt at a Splinter Cell for the 21st Century which failed miserably.
I would love a return to Splinter Cell of old but not sure if it would sell as well as they'd want.
To me Watchdogs was their attempt at a Splinter Cell for the 21st Century which failed miserably.
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Not happening. It does not fit the reused assets policy to change only the settings and the title like most Ubi$$$oft games
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Efren is G.O.A.T.
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I have a follow up question OP!
If Ubisoft isn't doing a new Splinter Cell, which other studio would you like to see take the stealth crown from them?
If Ubisoft isn't doing a new Splinter Cell, which other studio would you like to see take the stealth crown from them?
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Unknown Soldier
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Ubisoft is the open-world company at this point. They don't have a single major franchise which isn't an open-world setting, this is actually unique among the "Big 4" publishers (Activison Blizzard, EA, and Take Two Interactive are the other 3). Splinter Cell was never an open-world franchise and it doesn't really work that well as an open-world game. I mean okay fine MGSV but that game still put you into missions where a small area was the mission area and the open-world was more of a free-roaming hub.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Ozrimandias
Member
Probably better that Ubi Left Splinter Cell alone....I want to the new Splinter Cell to be superb, and Ubi most likely are not going to deliver something close to that, in fact the facial animation of the latest Ubi titles are horrible, same as the gamepay.
I'd say that Splinter Cell its a franchise that suddenly died for no reason, it was a multiplatform franchse (Conviction was the exception) very marketed for the Xbox and Ubisot at the time had very close relationship with Microsoft, many of their games were built for the OG Xbox and had significant downgrades on PS2 and Gamecube. MGS was on and off: MGS 2 Substence was first released on OG Xbox alongside the first Splinter Cell, but it wasn't until HD Collection that the franchise became really multiplatform from there and beyond.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
"Open world, live service with heavy emphasis on multiplayer."
That's it. That's the key to Splinter Cells future.
That's it. That's the key to Splinter Cells future.
LostDonkey
Member
It's in stealth, peeking under your door with a snake cam.
Grand Theft Scratchy
Banned
Splinter Cell games should remain linear. It's fun to complete covert missions across the world.
If Ubisoft can't do that then they shouldn't bother reviving the series, in my opinion.
If Ubisoft can't do that then they shouldn't bother reviving the series, in my opinion.
Guardian's Light
Member
It perfectioned its stealth so well we can't see it anymore
namekuseijin
Banned
What we knew all along was confirmed a few days ago:
this was the final nail in the coffin for PS5 to me
can't wait to stream from pc to my Quest 2
real nextgen is gun in your hand, not an ancient gamepad and more pixels on tv
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SpongebobSquaredance
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GrayFoxPL
Member
I'm still waiting for an OG Xbox emulator so I can finally play the original version of Double Agent. I heard good things about it. They really dropped the ball on the next gen versions.
Oh. I see Agent 47 let himself go.
Sign
Member
The last chapter of MGSV functions almost exactly like Peace Walker. You get the credits, then a chapter where you play a bunch of old stuff while getting some new material here and there.
The only story mistake Kojima made with MGSV was not setting the last mission on Mother Base like P.W. Everything they needed to do could have happened there with less resources.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Give VR a traditional single player experience.
Go multiplatform with an open world Spies vs Mercs standalone.
Save Splinter Cell.
Go multiplatform with an open world Spies vs Mercs standalone.
Save Splinter Cell.
Lionel Richie
Member
IMO that's the worst part of Peace Walker, Kojima shouldn't have made the same mistake twice. I still love MGS V and I think it's a weirdly underrated title, kind of like Skyward Sword is for Zelda. But the second chapter was a mistake. And notice I didn't even mention a central thing that happens because that was awesome in concept but so, so poorly done.
