Erica Durance was the best Lois Lane:
Michael Rosenbaum was the best Lex Luthor.
this is correct.
I liked tom welling, so im going with him.
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Who played the best Clark Kent, Superman, Lois Lane & Lex Luthor?
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this is correct.
I liked tom welling, so im going with him.
I can't stand reeve as kent. Not that its his fault mind you, I just hate bumbling kent. Kidders lois lane was pretty bad, but we haven't had many good versions of the character anyways.
Non animated:
clark- dean caine hate me if you want, but he was confident, and he felt like lois's equal when it came to being a reporter, and he would get lois back for giving him a hard time. Felt the most like the animated series.
Lois-not that I saw much of her, but I would say durance followed by hatcher, if nothing else for that great clark/lois chemistry she had with dean
Lex-rosenbloom he also gets a nod for best flash in justice league the animated series.
Superman-reeves followed by cavill I don't even have the gigantic hard on most people have for the original, and superman 2 is a huge step down even the donnor cut, but dude as superman was spot on. I think cavill could reach it with the right script though.
welling is at the absolute bottom of the list, and might as well not even be on it. Its just how much I hated his portrayal.
Non animated:
clark- dean caine hate me if you want, but he was confident, and he felt like lois's equal when it came to being a reporter, and he would get lois back for giving him a hard time. Felt the most like the animated series.
Lois-not that I saw much of her, but I would say durance followed by hatcher, if nothing else for that great clark/lois chemistry she had with dean
Lex-rosenbloom he also gets a nod for best flash in justice league the animated series.
Superman-reeves followed by cavill I don't even have the gigantic hard on most people have for the original, and superman 2 is a huge step down even the donnor cut, but dude as superman was spot on. I think cavill could reach it with the right script though.
welling is at the absolute bottom of the list, and might as well not even be on it. Its just how much I hated his portrayal.
Not sure how I forgot Teri Hatcher for Lois. She's definitely on the list.
Dean Cain as Clark Kent gets an honourable mention, but his Superman was bad.
Young Clark Kent, I think it goes to Tom Welling considering the time he had to play that role and develop it. Not exactly stellar writing or anything, but he played the role well for a long ass time.
Superman was Reeves, I guess. I mean his portrayal is iconic, and given the time he played Superman, I don't think that it could have been done better.
I honestly don't like any Lex Luthor on film or television. Hackman's was written and directed all goofy like. Rosenbaum's was a simplistic teenaged-TV version of a mad genius. But good. Spacey's was terrible in my opinion, and not because of him, but because he was being directed to be a slightly more menacing version of Hackman's in a film that just didn't work. IMO Luthor should be the most cruel, indifferent, and sublimely insane villain ever. No one has pulled that off in film or in TV despite there being plenty of terrific source material in the comics to play off of.
Superman was Reeves, I guess. I mean his portrayal is iconic, and given the time he played Superman, I don't think that it could have been done better.
I honestly don't like any Lex Luthor on film or television. Hackman's was written and directed all goofy like. Rosenbaum's was a simplistic teenaged-TV version of a mad genius. But good. Spacey's was terrible in my opinion, and not because of him, but because he was being directed to be a slightly more menacing version of Hackman's in a film that just didn't work. IMO Luthor should be the most cruel, indifferent, and sublimely insane villain ever. No one has pulled that off in film or in TV despite there being plenty of terrific source material in the comics to play off of.
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kunonabi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxAXhwLyxBk
starts about 1:10
If you want a sort of abriged telling of the whole football story skullsar did a video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZEUnWIavo
DaSorcerer7
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QFT.
brucewaynegretzky
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The only one I have a strong opinion on is Teri Hatcher for Lois.
Everything else kinda is case-by-case. No particularly strong feelings on any of the others.
And the DCAU crushes every live performance.
Everything else kinda is case-by-case. No particularly strong feelings on any of the others.
And the DCAU crushes every live performance.
I agree with all this pretty much except for the Welling hate, I thought he was pretty decent.
Cannot be quoted enough.
Erica Durance was the best Lois Lane:
Michael Rosenbaum was the best Lex Luthor.
Yes. My favourites as well.
Clarke, I'm not sure of. Never really liked any of them. Cavill either can't act, has no charisma or just bad writing. I hate clumsy Reeve Clark. imitation Routh Reeve Clark.
Superman.
I probably overstated the welling hate and it wasn't necessarily him just the writing in general.
Mengy
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Superman TAS is my favorite depiction of the mythos, in every way including the cast, so I'll exclude that completely (because it is tops in every category for me) and just do a live action list:
Clark Kent - Reeve
Superman - Reeve
Lois Lane - Durance
Pa Kent - John Schneider
Ma Kent - Annette O'Toole
Lex Luthor - Michael Rosenbaum
This single clip alone completely embodies why I feel that Rosenbaum, when let loose with the character, was the best live action depiction of Lex every put to a non-cartoon screen. He was spot on perfect when allowed to be:
I am the villain of the story
Clark Kent - Reeve
Superman - Reeve
Lois Lane - Durance
Pa Kent - John Schneider
Ma Kent - Annette O'Toole
Lex Luthor - Michael Rosenbaum
This single clip alone completely embodies why I feel that Rosenbaum, when let loose with the character, was the best live action depiction of Lex every put to a non-cartoon screen. He was spot on perfect when allowed to be:
I am the villain of the story
True Savior
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Reeve
Reeve
Kidder
Hackman
Brando
Stamp
Reeve
Kidder
Hackman
Brando
Stamp
Erica Durance was the best Lois Lane:
Michael Rosenbaum was the best Lex Luthor.
Take that Smallville shit out of here you heretic.
Really? Routh was basically channeling Reeves both as superman and Clark, so not sure how you can have a copy-cat above the original.
Or you might just be trolling
TacticalFox88
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I'm going to come out and say it.
Fuck Reeves.
I'm fully on-board the Cavill Train.
And Stamp too.
Fuck Reeves.
I'm fully on-board the Cavill Train.
And Stamp too.
The Cowboy
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Christopher Reeve for Clark Kent and Superman - no one has done as good as a transition between the 2 as him. I mean watch the scenes in Superman 2 in when Lois catches him out, in the space of a few seconds he goes from clearly looking like Clark Kent to really looking like Superman (heck in the movies you could pass him off as 2 entirely different people and i recon a lot of people wouldn't notice).
Kevin Spacey for Lex Luthor - i know I'll be in the minority on this one but i really do like his version better than all other live action version.
Erica Durance for Lois Lane - i wasn't a huge fan of Smallville's later seasons and was on the verge of giving up, until Erica Durance showed up as Lois Lane. I really like how they went with her character, and think she was the best part of the show for the remaining seasons.
Kevin Spacey for Lex Luthor - i know I'll be in the minority on this one but i really do like his version better than all other live action version.
Erica Durance for Lois Lane - i wasn't a huge fan of Smallville's later seasons and was on the verge of giving up, until Erica Durance showed up as Lois Lane. I really like how they went with her character, and think she was the best part of the show for the remaining seasons.
Poodlestrike
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No other live action take really sold me on the idea that people could believe Clark and Supes were different people. Hoping they emphasize the posture stuff in BvS at some point.
kunonabi
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No, Welling pulled that off a bit in the later seasons and certainly during some of the many, many, many, many times he went evil or got possessed.
Hari Seldon
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Yeah that scene shows how brilliant Reeve was. He made the Clarke Kent / Superman thing actually believable instead of comic book nonsense.
Welling was good being evil except his smirk.
In a decidedly campy take, sure, but I can't cross that bridge into reality. Short of prosopagnosia ("face blindness disorder"), they're the same guy and look like the same guy to me. It's nice acting for a melodramatic cartoon, but it's not believable in the real world.
Only Reeve played both Kent and Superman as actually being the same person, and he did it better than anybody else in both cases. Sure they buffed up Cavil but if Reeves was making it today they's buff him up too. That's just hitting the gym. Cavil was okay but he never shone remotely to the level Reeves did. He just nailed the character and remains definitive on screen.
Lex though I'm torn between Rosenbaum and Spacey. I think rosenbaum did more with it (but he had a lot more time to) but Spacey while not perfect nailed being cold and cruel perfectly at the right moments.
Ma Kent I'd have to go with Diane Lane
Pa Kent torn between Costner (even though they wasted the character) and Glen Ford (who had little screen time but used it wonderfully).
Lois Lane - Kidder in first film.
TBH in film I still think Superman nailed the character better than anything since including Man of Steel (it had the effects and thunder but little else and contained some very muddled character moments).
Lex though I'm torn between Rosenbaum and Spacey. I think rosenbaum did more with it (but he had a lot more time to) but Spacey while not perfect nailed being cold and cruel perfectly at the right moments.
Ma Kent I'd have to go with Diane Lane
Pa Kent torn between Costner (even though they wasted the character) and Glen Ford (who had little screen time but used it wonderfully).
Lois Lane - Kidder in first film.
TBH in film I still think Superman nailed the character better than anything since including Man of Steel (it had the effects and thunder but little else and contained some very muddled character moments).
kunonabi
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I can agree with that. He was pretty good at differentiating his evil forms(Red K, Bizarro, Lionel-possessed, and Ultraman,etc) which I thought he never gets enough credit for.
relevant to the discussion: The Daly Supermen (with Daly, Routh, Cain)
sticking to live action, I'm going to go with...
Superman: Christopher Reeve - he just had a presence as Superman, and this... almost tangible goodness when he talked. Plus, he just looked the most like Superman.
Clark: Reeve or Cain, for different reasons. Reeve's Clark, the bumbling and complete posture change and demeanor when he was Clark, is the only way I think Clark and Superman could actually co-exist without someone figuring it out. He just looked so different as Clark. Cain was the cooler, more "normal" Clark, and much more like the comics.
Lex: Spacey or Rosenbaum. Spacey's Lex was based on Hackman's, but he wasn't particularly goofy, and was much darker. He went straight cold-blooded murderer in the kryptonite shiv moment. Honorable mention to Smallville's Lionel Luthor, who in the first few seasons was basically "evil adult Lex Luthor with hair". (and looked like Lex Luthor II from the early 90s comics)
Lois: Kidder or Durance. I think I'll go with Durance, because she had so much time to develop. She had the personality down. Smallville really had good casting.
It may have been a bad show, but they did those two fairly well.
Kenzodielocke
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Clark - Brandon Routh
Superman - Brandon Routh
Lois Lane - Kate Bosworth
Lex Luthor - Kevin Spacey
Superman - Brandon Routh
Lois Lane - Kate Bosworth
Lex Luthor - Kevin Spacey
AuthenticM
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Everyone from Man of Steel, except for Luthor. Spacey was the best Luthor.
kunonabi
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It also has hands down the best Jonathan Kent.
Agreed on all points.
Cavill is 2" shorter......based purely on physical stature, i'd say Welling.
Cavill is too short, can't take him seriously.
Erica Durance was the best Lois Lane:
Michael Rosenbaum was the best Lex Luthor.
Here here. Regardless of the spotty material they were given, they really brought a lot to the roles.
The Real Abed
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Christopher Reeves was the best Superman.
But my favorite will always be Dean Cain.
And pretty much everyone from Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.
But yeah, Reeves was really good at convincing people he was two different people. Though glasses are still a silly disguise. Surely someone would tell from his hair.
But my favorite will always be Dean Cain.
And pretty much everyone from Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.
But yeah, Reeves was really good at convincing people he was two different people. Though glasses are still a silly disguise. Surely someone would tell from his hair.
Clark Kent - Christopher Reeve
Superman - Christopher Reeve
Lois Lane - Noel Neill
Lex Luthor - Clancy Brown
If they give her some real material to work with, Amy Adams has a shot at the Lois crown. Honestly I don't think Lois has been very well depicted in live action media overall.
Superman - Christopher Reeve
Lois Lane - Noel Neill
Lex Luthor - Clancy Brown
If they give her some real material to work with, Amy Adams has a shot at the Lois crown. Honestly I don't think Lois has been very well depicted in live action media overall.
Not Spaceghost
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I CAN DEFINITELY TELL YOU WHO PLAYED THE MOST ENRAGING CLARK KENT
FUCKING TOM GODDAMN WELLING.
More like Tom Waahhwahhhelling.
Honestly I haven't really been the biggest fan of any Clarks or Supes on screen, I never really even liked Reeve all that much as an actor but he at least 100% looked the part, it's such a shame that the 80s outfit is really garbage looking. Henry Cavil was okay. But yeah I don't really know who I'd say did the best job of Clark / Superman
Erica Durance is the best Lois Lane i've ever seen and the only thing that kept me going through the rest of Smallville. But I chalk this up to the fact that no other Lois Lanes actually get any real expositions in their films / shows like Erica's Lois did.
Michael Rosenbaum was an awesome Lex, he had that really good "crooked guy trying to act like he means well" vibe about him. His voice was so good at reassuring you that everything was great, he could lie to your face and you'd buy it even when you knew otherwise.
FUCKING TOM GODDAMN WELLING.
More like Tom Waahhwahhhelling.
Honestly I haven't really been the biggest fan of any Clarks or Supes on screen, I never really even liked Reeve all that much as an actor but he at least 100% looked the part, it's such a shame that the 80s outfit is really garbage looking. Henry Cavil was okay. But yeah I don't really know who I'd say did the best job of Clark / Superman
Erica Durance is the best Lois Lane i've ever seen and the only thing that kept me going through the rest of Smallville. But I chalk this up to the fact that no other Lois Lanes actually get any real expositions in their films / shows like Erica's Lois did.
Michael Rosenbaum was an awesome Lex, he had that really good "crooked guy trying to act like he means well" vibe about him. His voice was so good at reassuring you that everything was great, he could lie to your face and you'd buy it even when you knew otherwise.
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