That plus anecdotal evidence. We got this guys stupid behaviour compared to someone in this thread saying that germany treated him very well. Who do you believe? Its not black or white. Of course Germany has racism, every country has to some extent.
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Why are black people so universally hated?
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That plus anecdotal evidence. We got this guys stupid behaviour compared to someone in this thread saying that germany treated him very well. Who do you believe? Its not black or white. Of course Germany has racism, every country has to some extent.
My experience has been quite different from yours, apparently.
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Seriously, that was a great post cap
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I saw the video and have friends who have spent time in Germany.
Socially yes, economically not really.
I have quite a few black friends here as well. Aside from obvious right wing racism, they havent told us about any racist occurence here.
And some of them live here for 3-4 years now. Its simply not black or white.
Well, yeah. I assumed he was talking from a social point of view.
Have you asked if they experienced any?
Yeah, I got to know them in a group devoted to cultural differences and that topic frequently came up. They definitely were objected to racism, no doubt about that, but they havent complained about underhand racism, like store clerks being mean or whatever.
That still might change depending on the region you are conducting a survey about this topic in and we'd be stupid to ignore racism as a problem. But that video is a grossly exaggerated piece of anecdotal evidence that is not conform with what the people I know have experienced here.
From what I've read in some racist forums, their reasoning is that black people are inferior to other races genetically. Basically they argue that due to their genes, black people are less intelligent, more prone to violent etc. They bring up statistics as proof of this and how sub-Saharan Africa has not evolve much technologically over the centuries compared to other areas. Or they'll mention that areas with more black people are usually more poor and have more violence. I've actually tried to debate against such people and it's impossible to win.
I think the issue with a lot of people is that they see patterns and instead of attributing such patterns to socio-economical issues, they attribute it to race since it's it the easiest of all answers. It's easy to attribute all the problems you see around you to a specific group of people instead of admitting that the root of the problems is much much deeper and is due to our society as a whole being broken.
I think the issue with a lot of people is that they see patterns and instead of attributing such patterns to socio-economical issues, they attribute it to race since it's it the easiest of all answers. It's easy to attribute all the problems you see around you to a specific group of people instead of admitting that the root of the problems is much much deeper and is due to our society as a whole being broken.
I doubt they would have. Most black people take the little shit in stride and move on.
It really comes down to colonialism and how most all of Africa became subjugated against their will, basically becoming minorities even in their own lands.
And research has shown that people who are minorities against their will are given two choices in society: pass as the ruling majority ethnic group as best as you can, or take an "oppositional identity" to the dominant ethnic group to salvage your self-esteem.
And since blacks have a very, very hard time passing as a European, most will take an oppositional identity. This means that everything the dominant ethnicity represents, people who take an oppositional identity will be opposed to that. This makes most or enough black people scary in Western society to stigmatize all of them negatively. Then it self-perpetuates and festers into what we have today.
And research has shown that people who are minorities against their will are given two choices in society: pass as the ruling majority ethnic group as best as you can, or take an "oppositional identity" to the dominant ethnic group to salvage your self-esteem.
And since blacks have a very, very hard time passing as a European, most will take an oppositional identity. This means that everything the dominant ethnicity represents, people who take an oppositional identity will be opposed to that. This makes most or enough black people scary in Western society to stigmatize all of them negatively. Then it self-perpetuates and festers into what we have today.
Well yeah, I can neither prove nor disprove this statement.
Best post in this thread. I completely agree.
Mr.Squirrel
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So anyone get banned yet?
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And with that my day is complete. Thanks GAF!
DonasaurusRex
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TheContact
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I think Black people have the richest history of any other race, they had the best scholars, professors, astronomers.....
....
fast forward a few thousand years and they're slinging crack on the street.
Where did they go wrong?
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fast forward a few thousand years and they're slinging crack on the street.
Where did they go wrong?
captmcblack
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Circle gets the square. Nice post.
[EDIT: ^^^ they collectively aren't slinging "crack" on the streets...and if they were, the point is that they didn't get there by anything that they as a monolithic group did.]
Mr.Squirrel
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And whites are slinging meth and brown people are moving heroin. Not really sure what you're point is....
TheDiabolical
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penis envy
Sarcasm? The majority of first world nations are liberal compared to the U.S.
Mammoth Jones
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Those "statistics" magically started happening that way in the late 1960's...
Gee, what else happened in the late 1960's that might promote a biased "enforcement" of the law for Blacks in America.....?
Lol, the fuck?
Young Money
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Honestly alot of people probably have a bad experience, such as a robbery, mugging, or other crime, committed against them by a black person and then generalize that experience onto all black people.
It's sad. I see racism every day here in GA. From black and white people. Ignorant people on both sides keep the hatred flowing.
As an example, I know white families that are incredibly racist. I know black families that are just as racist.
A friend of mine used to be scared to death of me. He grew up in a insulated community. There were literally no other races around. All he knew about other races is what his friends and family told him. He met me and was scared to death of me. He would not talk around me very much. He would do little things such as make sure he had a wall to his back. He would recognize all the ways out of a room when he entered. When I confronted him about it, he admitted that all he knew about white people were the things his family and friends told him. White people were evil. All we cared about was forcing black people to be our slaves again. We routinely carried around nooses to lynch black people if the mood came upon us. All white people were redneck hillbillies who joined the KKK as children. After talking to me, he relaxed and thanked me for opening his eyes to the fact this is obviously not true.
It's sad. I see racism every day here in GA. From black and white people. Ignorant people on both sides keep the hatred flowing.
As an example, I know white families that are incredibly racist. I know black families that are just as racist.
A friend of mine used to be scared to death of me. He grew up in a insulated community. There were literally no other races around. All he knew about other races is what his friends and family told him. He met me and was scared to death of me. He would not talk around me very much. He would do little things such as make sure he had a wall to his back. He would recognize all the ways out of a room when he entered. When I confronted him about it, he admitted that all he knew about white people were the things his family and friends told him. White people were evil. All we cared about was forcing black people to be our slaves again. We routinely carried around nooses to lynch black people if the mood came upon us. All white people were redneck hillbillies who joined the KKK as children. After talking to me, he relaxed and thanked me for opening his eyes to the fact this is obviously not true.
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I'm fairly sure it originates from skin color. I don't pretend to know about every culture in the world, but of the ones I do know, dark skin is not looked upon fondly. In the east Asian countries I've been to and lived in, even people of the same ethnicity often receive discrimination if their skin color is of a darker tone. I've ready that even in African countries (where the vast majority of the populations are "black"), the lighter-skinned population receives better treatment. My limited exposure to Latin American television also seems to indicate that lighter-skinned people are treated better (or at least featured more on television) in those countries.
Why do so many humans seem to prefer lighter skin to darker? That's something I'd be interested in hearing about.
Why do so many humans seem to prefer lighter skin to darker? That's something I'd be interested in hearing about.
EleventhDoctor
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Go to Google and type in
Why do black
And see what autocompletes. It's wild.
Why do black
And see what autocompletes. It's wild.
this is a great post
Sanky Panky
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These conversations are exhausting even to look at on the first page of the O/T. Not that it doesn't warrant discussion or that it doesn't exist, but it is such a pervasive problem that we'll always be dealing with it, and we'll always have the same reasons as to why it exists.
Throughout history, it's all about the color of the skin, and the limitations of the African continent in fostering economic development. The darker skin color is closer to the color of apes (less evolved in the eyes of the ignorant), and Africans being behind in economic development reinforced the idea to the colonists of them being inferior.
Nowadays, it's a vicious circle as the result of institutionalized racism. Limitations, poberty, etc, result in rescentment, rebelliousness, crime, victim mentallity (not for all of course), which in turn reinforce negative stereotypes. Rinse and repeat. There will always be the poor in a society. Sadly, one minority has been historically discriminated against.
Throughout history, it's all about the color of the skin, and the limitations of the African continent in fostering economic development. The darker skin color is closer to the color of apes (less evolved in the eyes of the ignorant), and Africans being behind in economic development reinforced the idea to the colonists of them being inferior.
Nowadays, it's a vicious circle as the result of institutionalized racism. Limitations, poberty, etc, result in rescentment, rebelliousness, crime, victim mentallity (not for all of course), which in turn reinforce negative stereotypes. Rinse and repeat. There will always be the poor in a society. Sadly, one minority has been historically discriminated against.
CrushDance
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I find myself more afraid of black people than white people. But only black people and others who behave a certain way. It's a cultural thing. We're told that black people are the face of crime, black people are dangerous, etc. And to make it worse, a lot of rapper tend to find it hilarious to promote that image of the "tough black guy" and people without any stability to begin with, gyrate to that.
There is nothing inherently bad about black people, but people have been made ot think that way. There is nothing inherently bad about the way a lot of black youth dress, talk or act; but people have been made to think that way. It is just a different kind of attack on black people.
And quite frnakly, a lot of black people are promoting that image as their own. When I'm walking at night, I'm wary of everyone! No lie. But during the day in an isolated area, I'll be more suspicious of someone if I see them wearing "gangsta" clothing. I'm sorry but it's the truth. The people I see wearing that type of dress style are A) Usually not very educated, B) Way too brazen C) Want to act tough. So I tend to cross the street or just ignore them. Here in Canada though, a lot of Asians and Native Americans/Indians dress like that, not just black people. So they all get the "Averting path" from me.
I find the way someone carries themselves to be the discerning factor for me. The way a lot of black people carry themselves in NA is typically very sloppy. I walk with a swag, a lot of my black friends walk with a swag. But we don't overdo it and dress like we just rolled out of bed. Note that this doesn't mean a suit and tie or form fitting clothing. Simply walking with some sense of urgency, not lazily waddling from side to side makes a BIG difference. It's about confidence and the way one promotes themself. And sadly enough, the way we promote ourselves is largely by the very famous people. Because they are the only black people they see or know. White people, Asian people; have it much easier because the vast majority of their famous people are scientists or from famous backgrounds.
So yeah, people love rap music, "black culture" whatever the F that means. But they don't like black people. I might love some heavy rap music, but I don't want to be around an actual gangster. This is sadly what a lot of black youth are failing to see. So when they say "Man! I wish I was black!" They're missing the point that being a black person, you have so much more to prove to begin with.
//Lastly. One last thing I want to touch on is the colour discussion. It is no falsehood that in European cultures, black was traditionally seen as the colour of death, evil, destruction. While in Africa and Japan as far as I know, White is seen as the colour of death. And then you have European civilizations taking power...So it is no coincidence that...we, "black people" got that label stuck to them. Because we were demonic and different. I know very few actual "black" people. And even then I wouldn't say they're outright pitch black. SO you see this terminology being thrown around all the time as a "Black and White" issue. That alone creates such a massive mental gap that one can't help but acknowledge the differences. The majority of "black people" in America are more cocoa and light brown than anything! Yet they are still labeled as being "black" or "African American" and not "American". So a question:
If there are African Americans, Asian American, American Indians. Who are the true Americans? When will those groups become actual Americans? Because it seems that only white people are true Americans. Not, White Americans. Who are the true Americans?
There is nothing inherently bad about black people, but people have been made ot think that way. There is nothing inherently bad about the way a lot of black youth dress, talk or act; but people have been made to think that way. It is just a different kind of attack on black people.
And quite frnakly, a lot of black people are promoting that image as their own. When I'm walking at night, I'm wary of everyone! No lie. But during the day in an isolated area, I'll be more suspicious of someone if I see them wearing "gangsta" clothing. I'm sorry but it's the truth. The people I see wearing that type of dress style are A) Usually not very educated, B) Way too brazen C) Want to act tough. So I tend to cross the street or just ignore them. Here in Canada though, a lot of Asians and Native Americans/Indians dress like that, not just black people. So they all get the "Averting path" from me.
I find the way someone carries themselves to be the discerning factor for me. The way a lot of black people carry themselves in NA is typically very sloppy. I walk with a swag, a lot of my black friends walk with a swag. But we don't overdo it and dress like we just rolled out of bed. Note that this doesn't mean a suit and tie or form fitting clothing. Simply walking with some sense of urgency, not lazily waddling from side to side makes a BIG difference. It's about confidence and the way one promotes themself. And sadly enough, the way we promote ourselves is largely by the very famous people. Because they are the only black people they see or know. White people, Asian people; have it much easier because the vast majority of their famous people are scientists or from famous backgrounds.
So yeah, people love rap music, "black culture" whatever the F that means. But they don't like black people. I might love some heavy rap music, but I don't want to be around an actual gangster. This is sadly what a lot of black youth are failing to see. So when they say "Man! I wish I was black!" They're missing the point that being a black person, you have so much more to prove to begin with.
//Lastly. One last thing I want to touch on is the colour discussion. It is no falsehood that in European cultures, black was traditionally seen as the colour of death, evil, destruction. While in Africa and Japan as far as I know, White is seen as the colour of death. And then you have European civilizations taking power...So it is no coincidence that...we, "black people" got that label stuck to them. Because we were demonic and different. I know very few actual "black" people. And even then I wouldn't say they're outright pitch black. SO you see this terminology being thrown around all the time as a "Black and White" issue. That alone creates such a massive mental gap that one can't help but acknowledge the differences. The majority of "black people" in America are more cocoa and light brown than anything! Yet they are still labeled as being "black" or "African American" and not "American". So a question:
If there are African Americans, Asian American, American Indians. Who are the true Americans? When will those groups become actual Americans? Because it seems that only white people are true Americans. Not, White Americans. Who are the true Americans?
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I do have to admit that the "Why do black people have white palms" result made me chuckle a bit.
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No.
http://www.timwise.org/1998/10/color-conscious-white-blind-race-crime-and-pathology-in-america/Tim Wise said:
I think the numbers are a bit old but to say "alot" of white people have been robbed, mugged or had crimes committed against them by a black person is bullshit. There are racist people out there who hate black people that HAVE NEVER MET A BLACK PERSON. Stop perpetuating myths because you are just making excuses for the bigots.
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id like to thank the jews for giving us black folk a second chance
cutmeamango
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Native americans are the true 'americans' by racial geographical diferentiation. British colonialists (after the spanish and french I think) would be historically the 'americans' per land estabilishment.
Ethnically, everyone that is born and can be identified by cultural traits of the country, is american.
EDIT: I think.
bobbychalkers
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Why do white people love Wayne Brady lol
All my evidence is anecdotal. And my opinion. I never claimed otherwise. Where I live 95% of violent crime is caused by a black person. Does that mean white people do not commit violent crimes? No. It does not. You also ignored the next line where I stated that ignorant people on both sides keep hatred flowing. Anyways, before I get accused of being a racist I'm going to leave this topic. I posted my thoughts on the subject, which is what the OP asked for.
TheKaeptain
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Yep. When I lived there Turks were hated to the point that they weren't allowed in certain clubs.
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CrushDance
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I know who the true Americans are.
My point is, in America. You guys always refer to everyone BUT white people as " X American". When it is Native Americans who are the actual Americans. But white people somehow are the "true" Americans. It's disgusting.
Honesty time!
You see a black man walking towards you in Jeans and a Tee. How do you react?
You see a black man walking towards you with overly bagging clothing, a loose fitting hat, lame $2 Jewels. How do you react?
Which of those two people are you going to be more wary of? This really has little to do with colour and much more to do with the way on carries them-self. It isn't even a "Black" people thing. Everyone knows the importance of dressing well, speaking politely and hell; even shaking hands firmly. And no, doing that does not make you a "White person". It makes you an approachable person. Sometimes you have to give a little in order to be accepted. Someone wearing a mask all the time for example, would not be liked by anyone! Dressing and moving with power portrays confidence and assuredness. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that the way a lot of people who idolize rap moguls dress portrays any of that? I see Jazy-Z when he's making deals, going out or business meetings, dressed sharply with a suit or high end clothing and speaking strongly. Yet when he's at a concert or whatever, he's sagging unbelievably.
It annoys me that people like him USE their "own people" to rise.
I just see seas of confused black people googling this. Genuinely, and honestly confused about it... oh my god. It almost makes up for the rest of the questionable, black people searches...
as far as OP goes..
I think it was covered with the dark skin issue. Being dark just rubs people the wrong way. Its historically evil...
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