Brofist
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Those systems had some demand to begin with. No one wants the Vita.
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Why did Sony drop the price of the vita? Hiroshi Kawano explains:
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Those systems had some demand to begin with. No one wants the Vita.
The PSP had rampant piracy didn't it? I guess that is a contributing factor. I think it also affects the 3DS in a negative way too. I'm pretty sure DS flashcarts were huge for the DS when they came out.
michaelius
Banned
I think you are mistaken - it isn't Wii U thread.
People want Vita but it needs to be cheaper and have more games.
Nah the flash cart was later, 2 to 3 years after the DS was out.
PSP was rampant from circa DSlite (2006).
Psp sold quite a bunch in 2012(so says nintendo) and yet no games sold any significant amount.
Suggesting that people bought games digitally is kind of laughable considering the selection.
Vita won't get a free ride thanks to piracy here, it needs games more than anything.
And by games I mean real effort that apparently SCEJ will never give.
Keep telling yourself that.
clay_ghost
Member
? Well that the same problem wiiu Is faceing lol
Isn't that the same thing that the Wii U needs and generally what all consoles face...?
Sounds good to me.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The causes for the poor WiiU sales are quite a bit different.
Vita's biggest issue is the high price of entry. First and foremost that's the issue that needs to be solved because even with the best games in the world, a 250 dollar handheld game device with a proprietary memory card that brings the cost closer to 300 is a very hard sell. I honestly don't see price being an issue with the WiiU.
They seem to be addressing this issue, however, as the article notes, the Vita will still be more expensive than the most expensive 3DS model, so it's still a hard sell.
Which people, I wanna laugh too.
AranhaHunter
Banned
The Vita OS is nowhere near mature enough to be put on a phone. They can't dual boot with android because it wouldn't be as user friendly and due to piracy concerns. A gaming tablet with an ecosystem for general apps, music/mp3, ebook store integrated with the rest of psn is the way to go. After that matures, you can release a vita phone in the end of 2014.
Price of the mem cards is the single most common complaint I see when people talk about the Vita here, so it shoudln't be hard to see.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Those are all indie games though, which like I said are welcome, I'm talking about a big retail title.
There's barely any retail space as it is, without waves of software selling that's not gettng any better.
Father_Brain
Banned
There will definitely be a bump from the price drop/SS/PSO2, but if it's not below 15k/week by the end of March (if not sub-10K), I'll be amazed.
They put out a bunch of awesome games and it still didn't sell that well.
So they're cutting the price. Mystery solved.
Screamapillar
Member
5 inches isn't big enough? Give me a break...
Lord Ghirahim
Member
It would have to be half its original price and get several system selling exclusives at this point... to reach Gamecube levels of success. I sense that people who retain hope for Vita's recovery have lost track of time. Vita has been out for 14 months and has seen two holiday seasons in Japan already. Retailers and the majority of publishers seem to have given up on it in favor of the safer bet.
EatinOlives
Member
This line of thinking makes no sense. Vita is having a rough first year so the first thing to do is...scrap it completely and pretend it never happened?
If Sony wants it to be successful they need to focus MORE on it, not less.
yeah, because Sony clearly has ips that can be easily compared to Nintendo's in terms of mass market appeal
you're looking at two extremely different situations here, don't fool yourself
It's baffling, isn't it? I'll never understand that line of thinking. It's a desire for self-fulfilling failure.
CadetMahoney
Member
They don't even want it in Japan.
So why not fix that?
Other than Gravity Rush, what awesome game did Sony put out in 2012 in Japan?
Also, it took them the whole 2012 to realize they need to cut the price, especially giving up the holiday period?
Brilliant.
Beer Monkey
Member
Retailers need shelf space this fall for the new consoles. I can't imagine Vita space NOT being the first thing cut. That hurts it even further in the eyes of consumers.
Given the length of software development cycles, its hard to imagine ANYTHING turning the Vita around in the West before the upcoming retail space crunch. unless there are some secret AAA titles being finished in the next 6 months. And I'm not talking about console ports.
Given the length of software development cycles, its hard to imagine ANYTHING turning the Vita around in the West before the upcoming retail space crunch. unless there are some secret AAA titles being finished in the next 6 months. And I'm not talking about console ports.
Should they have not dropped the price? It seems that might have made you happier.
UberTag
Member
Just to play devil's advocate, what awesome game did Sony put out in 2012 in Japan for PS3?
Because I see one awesome game for Vita and ZERO homegrown awesome games for PS3. 1 is a bigger number than zero.
Rollo Lawson
Banned
Strangely they did with PSP Go...I definitely don't see it happening twice.
They're slowly building their library and I love it. I take comfort in the fact that I'm covered for at least another year. We got some good ones coming up:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2
Killzone Mercenary
Soul Sacrifice
Tearaway
Dragon's Crown
Hotline Miami
DOA 5+
Muramasa Rebirth
What I'm hoping for between tonight and E-3
God of War
Infamous
GTA
PS2 games through Gaikai
Nah, this is a good platform. It's already got great games and more to come. I'm a little worried but not enough to think it's going to completely die.
Edit:
Well that was part of the PSP platform, they just gave up on that version. They did the same with the original PS3's but they didn't completely kill off the PS3 as a system, just certain versions. If you noticed, they dropped the price of the 3G vita to the same price as the WiFi Vita in Japan. I bet they're phasing that model out. I mean do we really need 3G for the vita?
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2
Killzone Mercenary
Soul Sacrifice
Tearaway
Dragon's Crown
Hotline Miami
DOA 5+
Muramasa Rebirth
What I'm hoping for between tonight and E-3
God of War
Infamous
GTA
PS2 games through Gaikai
Nah, this is a good platform. It's already got great games and more to come. I'm a little worried but not enough to think it's going to completely die.
Edit:
Well that was part of the PSP platform, they just gave up on that version. They did the same with the original PS3's but they didn't completely kill off the PS3 as a system, just certain versions. If you noticed, they dropped the price of the 3G vita to the same price as the WiFi Vita in Japan. I bet they're phasing that model out. I mean do we really need 3G for the vita?
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
I see, because whether or not you buy a Vita is a matter of intelligence. Smart people (or at least "smart enough", we don't really know what the bar is) don't buy the Vita, and people like me who buy a Vita are stupid. And wanting Sony to support the Vita is stupid too. And smart people don't want Sony to support the Vita. Okay, so long as we're clear...
LOL - ya right... I think they're trying like crazy to crack it... THEY ARE FAILING... Basically the Vita's a tough nut to crack...
As for the software sales, the current attach rate appears to be about 2.5 for physical releases, and the Vita is a digital-centric system, so I'd bet when all is said and done the Vita will easily beat the PSP's software attach rate...
And it is very likely that piracy was a huge problem for the PSP; Peace Walker sold something like 100,000 copies in NA its first week (total NA sales ~400K), while the torrent for the CSO was downloaded more than 2 million times in the same time period... God of War Ghost of Sparta sold only ~34K copies in NA, while within a month of its release a single torrent of the rip had more than 5 million downloads and 2K seeders on one popular torrent site... those are insane discrepancies...
MiniDisc was actually quite popular in the music industry, and found a niche there for a number of years... My friends and I used ours for home recording and swapping music for ages, and I'm sure it was ultimately quite profitable for Sony; they only discontinued it when it was clear that digital memory was superseding the disc as a storage medium...
IchigoSharingan
Member
Why throw two corpses at each other? Let them RIP.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus 2 Port
Killzone Mercenary Killzone has never been a big series
Soul Sacrifice Will only do damage in Japan
Tearaway Too niche
Dragon's Crown Also for the PS3
Hotline Miami Port
DOA 5+ Port
Muramasa Rebirth Port
intheinbetween
Member
so, the price cut needs an explanation.. interesting..
I'm not the one claiming Sony put out a bunch of awesome games on Vita. why are you talking to me?
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No. You are the one saying saying When a product is floundering you act. I'm just saying they are not acting fast enough.
Hmm well that is true for me. I want one but there are no games for it that I was interested in ( apart from Uncharted and gravity rush) and as far as I known not a single one I am interested in that was announced. So I got a 3ds xl instead despite liking the vita better because there were more games for it that I was interested in.
Ninja Gaiden isn't a direct port. There have been Vita modifications done to it.
Killzone is big enough.
Soul Sacrafice will do just fine in the states
Tearaway is about as Niche as LBP
Hotline Miami is a port but it has crossplay which is awesome
DOA 5+ Has Crossplay
Muramasa Rebirth added a jump button
Besides, there's nothing wrong with ports, espcially since they're not direct ports. Many of these games have been reworked for the Vita. If there were nobody would buy the MGS HD, God of War HD, DMC HD, Silent Hill HD, or ICO/SotC HD versions.
There's nothing wrong with ports unless they're pretty much the only thing a struggling platform has to offer.
RukusProvider
Banned
If they're a "little" behind, I wonder what would constitute as a "lot."
You can try to push as hard as you can but it doesn't matter if there isn't an audience for it. I firmly belief that is the case for the vita, atleast in the West.
You can try to push as hard as you can but it doesn't matter if there isn't an audience for it. I firmly belief that is the case for the vita, atleast in the West.
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