High clock GPU that probably has yield issue's, Fast SSD that don't come cheap.
And that's why i stated after the released specs that sony's next console is a mess even while everybody is praising it. It's way overenginered and costs way to much to produce which will result in a higher price and less sales and a smaller market as result.
cooling systems are one of the least expensive parts of a console. As an example the cooling system of the PS4 pro is $2. The one in One X is around $10. The bluray drive is $15-$20 in comparison.Proprietary SSD (or at least custom) and rumored expensive cooling system.
It lost in sales and in the end it lost in mind-share because they dropped the ball. Overall though? The 360 was the better console to play games on, even if the PS3 had better features.
I skipped the ps3, by the time it got good and the 360 got crap, the next gen was pretty much here. I picked up a PS4 and played the PS3 games i missed in better graphics!Yeah 360 won that generation in my books. PS3 may have edged it in the end but 360 had enough awesome content + running all the third party stuff + having far better online infrastructure that I didn't feel like I was missing anything not being on PS3. I did get a PS3 towards the end of the generation and it was like "meh.. yeah pretty good".
Sounds like something Jack Tretton would say about the PS3. "People want to pay more!"Not just anti-Sony fanboys though. I've seen quite a few posts of people saying that if the PS5 is more expensive, it's because it's the better console / has the better SSD / has the better exclusives / is worth paying more.
360 lost the gen? How so?Because the ONE time Microsoft and Sony were neck and neck, was because the PS3 was way more expensive.
(the 360 still lost the gen)
Hey, at least if they try to scam us with the price we´ll get some good meme material. xDDamn....beat me to it! Il post this one instead:
This is basically what it feels like.Because fanboys.
Just let's say, the SSD needs 12 flash chips, because of the way they designed it. One chip may be cheap, but 12 ain't.
The high frequencies. Every chip have to reach then with the given power target.
The big box. It wouldn't be so big if they could reduce the size. Every inch are additional costs (they produce millions of those things) . And it can only be so big because of the cooling solution. Because the Mainboard and the soc should quite small.
I believe they could go as low as 399 and 349But the SSD is very expensive, there is no way that thing is cheap!
According to who? Do people have insider information about the deals that Sony do with suppliers about the cost?
When the Xbox Series X specs were announced and said it was a 12TF console, everyone was saying the thing wouldn't cost less that $600 USD. However, they are selling it at $499 (with people even believing that they could cut the price in response to Sony because they showed an ERP).
But Microsoft is so big they can afford to lose more money on each console!
According to who? Do people have insider information about how much money are companies willing to lose on each product they make?
Then, there's the fact that people ignore, which is that EVERY COMPANY that develops a product, they have to design each product based on a target price. They don't make a product out of gold and say, " Oh well, I guess we'll have to sell it at $10,000". They KNOW they need to hit a selling price point, and they need to design the product around that target. If the product goes higher than that, it will only be approved if they are willing to take the loss, they will never allow to build a product with the mindset that they will sell it at a higher price (unless the market allows it).
I'll make sure to edit and add the link when I find it, but there was an interview with Mark Cerny about the PS4 design, and he said that they were set on selling it at $400, and they had to make compromises to make sure they hit that target. Of course it will be the same for the PS5
There is no way that Sony didn't want to limit themselves to a $400. If they approved a $500 console, it's because, like I wrote above, the market allows it. How do they know the market allows it? They spend a lot of money doing market research.
Then, there's the fact that the PS5 Digital Edition exists. If they were willing to do two models, it had to be because they still wanted to hit a target price. If they knew they could go to $500, but still wanted to hit $400, they do a lowered SKU. Why did Microsoft make the Series S? Because they wanted a lower price point, but this time, they needed to lower the specs to hit THAT low of a price point. Sony might be able to take the cost of a Disc Drive.
Another thing that it's important to take into consideration, is that Sony could make a 50TF, 40 GB Ram console and sell it at $3,000 USD. Of course there might be people who says "Wow! 50TF at JUST three thousand dollars? that's a steal!, but is that something that Sony would want as a business? Is that the market they want to be in? The answer is NO!.
The market Sony wants is the market Sony has, and it's 100 million big. They want to keep as much as possible. They know that 100 million people are willing to pay $400 for their console. They are so willing to pay it, that Sony did NOT have any real price cut the entire generation! So, what makes you think they will say " whatever, we will sell the PS5 at $600!"
IMO, the most realistically price point the PS5 can be is $399 for the PPS5 DE and $499 for the PS5. If course they can say "Fuck it! and announce that it will be higher", but of course they haven't done anything that would point they'd do that.