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Why do some games get a 'pass' with certain themes (nudity, sex) from some outlets? Are East/West treated differently?

Second, i was complaining about the lack of sexy outfits of a grown ass 30 year old women like black cat and lara croft in that thread and not the lack of 16 year old hot sex and skinny dipping nipples and all, so i don't know why are you surprised that a 30 year old man wants to see a 30 year old looking woman in a bikini but don't want to see the nipples and sex scenes of a teenage girl in his games.

Not everybody is a "grown ass 30 year old man wanting to see 30 year old looking women". Sexuality plays a big role in your average Teenager's life as they begin to make their first experiences. So why shouldn't a game, that's targeted at a teenage audience, not be allowed to explore these themes in a safe and tactful manner?

Not every game has to cater to your specific tastes as a "30 year old man", just like games with fanservice don't have to appeal to those who don't enjoy that sort of titillation. You seek tolerance for your specific tastes, but are unable to extend the same kind of tolerance towards demographics that have other interests. You want to enjoy your fanservice? Fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But then don't go around pointing fingers at other demographics for liking stuff that you don't like.

I'm confident though, at least I'm not gonna tell people what to watch, what to like whatsoever.

Speaking about missing the point, tell that to the OP in question because he's the one who quite clearly has not understood that notion.
 
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MagnesG

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You've gone spectacularly off-tangent here. Bold makes no sense either.
You just have to edit your post on multiple. I'll just post ok. Let me make it clear, I may misjudged your last post. But I still get the sense of entitlement from your earlier post. It's like 'that thing is not okay but this is approved'. Your reasoning seems arbitrary when at end it's only the relationship between dev' intention and customers that matters. Customers will justify whether that game is allowed or not (aside from game ratings etc.).

Also, I'm just posting my personal opinion. Which means I'm seeing that kind of thing as distasteful. That's it. The scene can also be depicted as edgy, weird and a bit gross (an adult seeing the whole chapter of teen drama + sexual encounters) for me, threading between the lines, I'm not sure if that's the best interpretation of a coming-of-age story. But that's just me and I for sure am not interested in it. Still, more power for those who enjoy.
 

daveonezero

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I guess it is a little strange as the player is basically watching and hearing these acts of young adults. But idk I haven’t seen or played the game.
 

V2Tommy

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Loli’s
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I can’t listen to your arguments when you people can’t event stop abusing the poor apostrophe. It’s a 9000 thousand-year-old piece of punctuation.
 

MagnesG

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Speaking about missing the point, tell that to the OP in question because he's the one who quite clearly has not understood that notion.
Is he though? I'm sure his 'games' means real mature violent games like Tomb Raider and such. I believe he doesn't give fuck if there's other games in question include said teen scenes.

If he is then...

OP you don't call other games when you yourselves are projecting your self preferences regardless of the game's focus. I'm sure there are some people who can appreciate this.
 

BlackTron

Member
A lot of people seem to be confused thinking that the OP has some sort of problem with the content depicted in his post.

Having read the subject line, it was pretty apparent to me that OP's problem is not this content, but an apparent double standard in how content is judged.

This is just an example of the double standard. Read the OP again.

Idk what else to say. Wow.
 

ROMhack

Member
You just have to edit your post on multiple. I'll just post ok. Let me make it clear, I may misjudged your last post. But I still get the sense of entitlement from your earlier post. It's like 'that thing is not okay but this is approved'. Your reasoning seems arbitrary when at end it's only the relationship between dev' intention and customers that matters. Customers will justify whether that game is allowed or not (aside from game ratings etc.).

Also, I'm just posting my personal opinion. Which means I'm seeing that kind of thing as distasteful. That's it. The scene can also be depicted as edgy, weird and a bit gross (an adult seeing the whole chapter of teen drama + sexual encounters) for me, threading between the lines, I'm not sure if that's the best interpretation of a coming-of-age story. But that's just me and I for sure am not interested in it. Still, more power for those who enjoy.

Yeah sorry, I sometimes edit my posts afterwards to avoid getting into arguments or to clarify points better.

I didn't intend for the post to come across as entitled. I was curious to know which Japanese games OP thought might have been unfairly attacked (that's what the s/he said).
 

ROMhack

Member
A lot of people seem to be confused thinking that the OP has some sort of problem with the content depicted in his post.

Having read the subject line, it was pretty apparent to me that OP's problem is not this content, but an apparent double standard in how content is judged.

This is just an example of the double standard. Read the OP again.

Idk what else to say. Wow.

The following line is what struck me as her/him complaining about it.

Here is the sex scene of a 16 year olds. but don't worry guys, it's okay since it's a western game and the characters looks like real naked underage minors:messenger_winking:
 
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BlackTron

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The following line is what struck me as her/him complaining about it.

Here is the sex scene of a 16 year olds. but don't worry guys, it's okay since it's a western game and the characters looks like real naked underage minors:messenger_winking:

I read this as sarcasm. Put another, more matter of fact way:

"Here is a sex scene with 16 year olds that would have been blasphemous if it happened in a Japanese game using animated characters, but because this game is Western and came from OUR country, we're going to be totally okay with polygonal as-real-as possible characters having sex."

In other words, a sarcastic way of underlining the double standard in how games are judged by the leftist media.

I guess.
 
Not everybody is a "grown ass 30 year old man wanting to see 30 year old looking women". Sexuality plays a big role in your average Teenager's life as they begin to make their first experiences. So why shouldn't a game, that's targeted at a teenage audience, not be allowed to explore these themes in a safe and tactful manner?

The following line is what struck me as her/him complaining about it.

Here is the sex scene of a 16 year olds. but don't worry guys, it's okay since it's a western game and the characters looks like real naked underage minors:messenger_winking:


The propose of this thread is to expose the hypocrisy of game journalists who gets triggered by an adult woman with huge breasts like in games like Dragon crown and at the same time praise another game that shows the tits and ass of a teenage girl before she have a sexual intercourse, i thought i made my self clear, even the mod who changed the title got the idea and only change it so people like you could understand the point by hammering it directly into your brains but i guess not.
 

ROMhack

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The propose of this thread is to expose the hypocrisy of game journalists who gets triggered by an adult woman with huge breasts like in games like Dragon crown and at the same time praise another game that shows the tits and ass of a teenage girl before she have a sexual intercourse, i thought i made my self clear, even the mod who changed the title got the idea and only change it so people like you could understand the point by hammering it directly into your brains but i guess not.

Assuming you're talking about Life is Strange 2, that's a total false equivalence.
 
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ROMhack

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In other words, a sarcastic way of underlining the double standard in how games are judged by the leftist media.

I guess.

Hmm I don't think it's double standards. I just think western critics value sincerity and that's something that they probably felt the scene reflected.

Critics loved games without nude scenes like Gone Home and Firewatch for much the same reasons.
 
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Winter John

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there isn't any. it's implied they have sex and it's therefore not shown on screen.

from that video all we see is some side boob (no nipple), a bare ass, and exposed shoulders.

Well, that's shit. After reading all the harrumphing and chest clutching I was expecting some hot fuck action. I guess I'll just have to go back to Pornhub.
 
The propose of this thread is to expose the hypocrisy of game journalists who gets triggered by an adult woman with huge breasts like in games like Dragon crown and at the same time praise another game that shows the tits and ass of a teenage girl before she have a sexual intercourse, i thought i made my self clear, even the mod who changed the title got the idea and only change it so people like you could understand the point by hammering it directly into your brains but i guess not.

And you were quite obviously very displeased by the portrayal of teenage romance and boobies in Life is Strange. How else do you explain these comments?

Still not legal to record or portray anyone under the age of 18 having sex with nudity in games dude.
Dude, you can see the nipples of a teenage girl while she is starting to have sex with a 16 year old in the video i posted

You even tried linking the scene in Life is Strange to pedophilia:

You don't say

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If you honestly want to have a discussion about double standards in western games journalism, then at least have the common decency to frame the discussion as such because your own hypocrisy is certainly not helping.
 
And you were quite obviously very displeased by the portrayal of teenage romance and boobies in Life is Strange. How else do you explain these comments?




You even tried linking the scene in Life is Strange to pedophilia:



If you honestly want to have a discussion about double standards in western games journalism, then at least have the common decency to frame the discussion as such because your own hypocrisy is certainly not helping.

I guess you really have a problem in your reading comprehension.
 

BlackTron

Member
Hmm I don't think it's double standards. I just think western critics value sincerity and that's something that they probably felt the scene reflected.

Critics loved games without nude scenes like Gone Home and Firewatch for much the same reasons.

Valuing sincerity is an argument that makes sense. Of course it's also highly subjective.

I do think this is what the OP is on about though, literally "why do some games get a pass with certain themes and others don't".

Context, perception, etc etc.

I do think that standards should be objective (black and white, yes/no) and the interpretation of what is done within those standards should be up to the consumer. In other words, if you're OK with this western game, you can't regulate a different (ie, Japanese) game for being "tasteless". Of course you can have an opinion and write about it as much as you want.

Without being that personally knowledgeable, it looks to me like Sony is cracking down on the content in a lot of Japanese games but this was just fine? I think that's wrong, if that's the case.
 

ROMhack

Member
Valuing sincerity is an argument that makes sense. Of course it's also highly subjective.

I do think this is what the OP is on about though, literally "why do some games get a pass with certain themes and others don't".

Context, perception, etc etc.

I do think that standards should be objective (black and white, yes/no) and the interpretation of what is done within those standards should be up to the consumer. In other words, if you're OK with this western game, you can't regulate a different (ie, Japanese) game for being "tasteless". Of course you can have an opinion and write about it as much as you want.

Without being that personally knowledgeable, it looks to me like Sony is cracking down on the content in a lot of Japanese games but this was just fine? I think that's wrong, if that's the case.

Pretty much. It's why I took issue at the OP's equivalence between the character design of the sorceress from Dragon Crown and this scene.
 
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I guess you really have a problem in your reading comprehension.

No, you just have a problem with explaining yourself properly, Mr. Grown ass dude who wants to look at grown ass 30 year old women. You don't get to criticize the hypocrisy in video game journalism, when you get all huffy puffy about that scene in Life is Strange.

Taking it as an example to display the double standard in western games reporting is fine and I agree with that. What I take issue with is your hyperbolic criticism of that scene in Life is Strange. I guess your subjective distaste for teenage romance in LiS, the also the very same reason why western journalists are more lenient on nudity in western games over erotic display in Japanese games.
 
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No, you just have a problem with explaining yourself properly, Mr. Grown ass dude who wants to look at grown ass 30 year old women. You don't get to criticize the hypocrisy in video game journalism, when you get all huffy puffy about that scene in Life is Strange.

Taking it as an example to display the double standard in western games reporting is fine and I agree with that. What I take issue with is your hyperbolic criticism of that scene in Life is Strange.

You know what, you are right man. i'm sorry that i attacked your naked teenage girl. here is a picture of her underdeveloped body for you to enjoy while i go and look for a naked 30 year old women in other western games for me to enjoy.

 
You know what, you are right man. i'm sorry that i attacked your naked teenage girl. here is a picture of her underdeveloped body for you to enjoy while i go and look for a naked 30 year old women in other western games for me to enjoy.

Ah so I did understand correctly and this topic isn't really about double standards but a veiled criticism of the depiction of teenage romance in a video game. You just posted an article about Japanese developers needing to tiptoe around Valve's rules, yet at the same time you proudly display your own hypocrisy by riling against a western game for doing the same.

Also, don't make threads about hot button issues if all you can do is give childish replies like that. I neither play LiS, nor am I in any way concerned about it. Accusing others of "enjoying naked teenage girls" only because they acknowledge that teenagers have a sexuality too and might enjoy such themes, is frikkin' low. Get a grip before you accuse others of bad reading comprehension.

The only one making baseless assumptions and misconstruing arguments is you with you thinly veiled childish accusations. Grow up, because quite evidently you're not fit for having a reasoned discussion. Throwing around with accusations of pedophilia when you're running out of arguments only emphasizes your own intellectual immaturity. Now go back gawking at your big boobied bimbos you big boy.
 
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Ah so I did understand correctly and this topic isn't really about double standards but a veiled criticism of the depiction of teenage romance in a video game. You just posted an article about Japanese developers needing to tiptoe around Valve's rules, yet at the same time you proudly display your own hypocrisy by riling against a western game for doing the same.

Also, don't make threads about hot button issues if all you can do is give childish replies like that. I neither play LiS, nor am I in any way concerned about it. Accusing others of "enjoying naked teenage girls" only because they acknowledge that teenagers have a sexuality too and might enjoy such themes, is frikkin' low. Get a grip before you accuse others of bad reading comprehension.

The only one making baseless assumptions and misconstruing arguments is you with you thinly veiled childish accusations. Grow up, because quite evidently you're not fit for having a reasoned discussion. Throwing around with accusations of pedophilia when you're running out of arguments only emphasizes your own intellectual immaturity. Now go back gawking at your big boobied bimbos you big boy.

Enjoy your hot teenage girl dude, i hope your country underage laws are relaxed.

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kiiltz

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Ah so I did understand correctly and this topic isn't really about double standards but a veiled criticism of the depiction of teenage romance in a video game.
You had multiple people ITT explaining that it was just the opposite but as soon as he made that post, heavily dripped in sarcasm might I add, you jumped on that to prove your point.

The internet equivalent of a girl continuously asking her boyfriend why he's mad and when he gets angry and shouts "I'm not angry!!!", she looks at him and says "see, you're angry".
 
Enjoy your hot teenage girl dude, i hope your country underage laws are relaxed.

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For the record, Section 2252 says:
(a) Any personwho—
(1) knowingly transports or ships using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce by any means including by computer or mails, any visual depiction, if—
(A)
the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(B)
such visual depiction is of such conduct;
(2) knowingly receives, or distributes, any visual depiction using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or that has been mailed, or has been shipped or transported in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or which contains materials which have been mailed or so shipped or transported, by any means including by computer, or knowingly reproduces any visual depiction for distribution using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or through the mails, if—
(A)
the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(B)
such visual depiction is of such conduct;
(3) either—
(A)
in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or on any land or building owned by, leased to, or otherwise used by or under the control of the Government of the United States, or in the Indian country as defined in section 1151 of this title, knowingly sells or possesses with intent to sell any visual depiction; or
(B) knowingly sells or possesses with intent to sell any visual depiction that has been mailed, shipped, or transported using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce, or has been shipped or transported in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or which was produced using materials which have been mailed or so shipped or transported using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce, including by computer,if—
(i)
the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(ii)
such visual depiction is of such conduct; or
(4) either—
(A)
in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or on any land or building owned by, leased to, or otherwise used by or under the control of the Government of the United States, or in the Indian country as defined in section 1151 of this title, knowingly possesses, or knowingly accesses with intent to view, 1 or more books, magazines, periodicals, films, video tapes, or other matter which contain any visual depiction; or
(B) knowingly possesses, or knowingly accesses with intent to view, 1 or more books, magazines, periodicals, films, video tapes, or other matter which contain any visual depiction that has been mailed, or has been shipped or transported using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or which was produced using materials which have been mailed or so shipped or transported, by any means including by computer,if—
(i)
the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(ii)
such visual depiction is of such conduct;
shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section.

(b)
(1)
Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, but if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, section 1591, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, or sex trafficking of children, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 15 years nor more than 40 years.
(2)
Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (4) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both, but if any visual depiction involved in the offense involved a prepubescent minor or a minor who had not attained 12 years of age, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 10 years nor more than 20 years.

(c)Affirmative Defense.—It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating paragraph (4) of subsection (a) that the defendant—
(1)
possessed less than three matters containing any visual depiction proscribed by that paragraph; and
(2) promptly and in good faith, and without retaining or allowing any person, other than a law enforcement agency, to access any visual depictionor copy thereof—
(A)
took reasonable steps to destroy each such visual depiction; or
(B)
reported the matter to a law enforcement agency and afforded that agency access to each such visual depiction.

Two things. Fictional people don't have legal protection under the law (and thank god). Second, it has to have a "minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct" AND "such visual depiction is of such conduct". That is, a real minor must be doing the sexy time and it must explicitly show the sexy time. Whoever posted this is a moron who can't read.
 
For the record, Section 2252 says:


Two things. Fictional people don't have legal protection under the law (and thank god). Second, it has to have a "minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct" AND "such visual depiction is of such conduct". That is, a real minor must be doing the sexy time and it must explicitly show the sexy time. Whoever posted this is a moron who can't read.


Well, this game is being mass reported now for CP on Steam, so i guess we will see if anything will be done or not.
 
Well, this game is being mass reported now for CP on Steam, so i guess we will see if anything will be done or not.
I'm all for holding the social justice crowd to their own standards, but if people go around acting like actual laws are being broken, it will cause people to be even more wary of games like Senran Kagura. My goal is a more open and free creative environment for game creators, not a more restrictive one, so I'm not going to cheer on trolling that is going to make things worse.
 
You had multiple people ITT explaining that it was just the opposite but as soon as he made that post, heavily dripped in sarcasm might I add, you jumped on that to prove your point.

Geez, just look at his comments, he's not being "sarcastic", but is dead seriously triggered because a frikkin' video game dared depict teenage romance in a serious and non-explicit manner. He's now going around accusing everybody of f*cking pedophilia for defending the game!

Enjoy your hot teenage girl dude, i hope your country underage laws are relaxed.

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Oh noez, I better hide my Max Frisch and my Bernhard Schlink too!

Doubling down on your childishness isn't going to make it any better. I hope your silly crusade is also aimed at hundreds of commercial movies depicting the same themes, including classic literature of which I've named quite a few and are part of the educational curriculum in many European countries. The mere depiction of these themes does not equal pedophilia, you silly outrage monger.
 
I'm all for holding the social justice crowd to their own standards, but if people go around acting like actual laws are being broken, it will cause people to be even more wary of games like Senran Kagura. My goal is a more open and free creative environment for game creators, not a more restrictive one, so I'm not going to cheer on trolling that is going to make things worse.

It's okay, we are just exposing Steam double standards and forcing them to treat all games the same way by enforcing their own rules they created.

Geez, just look at his comments, he's not being "sarcastic", but is dead seriously triggered because a frikkin' video game dared depict teenage romance in a serious and non-explicit manner. He's now going around accusing everybody of f*cking pedophilia for defending the game!



Oh noez, I better hide my Max Frisch and my Bernhard Schlink too!

Doubling down on your childishness isn't going to make it any better. I hope your silly crusade is also aimed at hundreds of commercial movies depicting the same themes, including classic literature of which I've named quite a few and are part of the educational curriculum in many European countries. The mere depiction of these themes does not equal pedophilia, you silly outrage monger.

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At least I'm not the one embracing childish mob mentality to bully a harmless video game from an online store while throwing around with baseless accusations and copy/pasted screenshots of legalese from wannabe Steam lawyers with an ax to grind because they are scared someone might take their precious boobies away.

That behavior is not any better than the triggered snowflakes false flagging a game for whatever perceived slight of sexism they might have identified in a game in the name of their self-deluded prudish crusade. That mentality is exactly the reason why the creative freedom in the gaming industry is in such dire straits nowadays, because of petty and vindictive ideologically misguided wannabe zealots enforcing blind reductive mob rule.

If anything you're letting your own emotion overriding your rational judgment if you think your childish behavior and silly cheer-leading for mob mentality is in any way conducive to a betterment of the situation. All this fake outrage will inevitably result in Steam making stricter rules and granting less freedom to artistic expression and thematic choices.
 
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K1Expwy

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Can anybody name a Japanese game that deals with sexual content as sincerely as Life if Strange 2 does and includes nudity/sexual content and was attacked by more than five critics?

Edit: To explain, I'm curious to know which games might have been unfairly attacked. The only one I can think of is maybe Catherine.
It wouldn't be seen in a game made after 2004, because intercourse, exposed nipples and genitalia are not approved by Cero, their ESRB/PEGI.
GTAV (which was popular there for a while) replaced a sex scene with minors with them smoking cigarettes (and even now JP games are frequently removing cigarette use). A recent Switch game that included a blip of cartoon nipple was pulled immediately from the eShop, and patched to comply with the ratings board. There are older examples of games (sometimes physical copies) that were initially overlooked, halted from sale and replaced.

What's crazy is the media, and our Sony friends in San Mateo, treat Japan as though they are uncivilized and they don't already police themselves. Their standards don't align perfectly with the West (which is why violent M rated games from the west frequently require censorship to even clear Cero's "adults only" rating), but there's already a line that developers aren't allowed to cross. Regardless of Japan's cultural history, Cero only allows certain content on game platforms.
 

Enjay

Banned
Loli’s
Pedo’s


I can’t listen to your arguments when you people can’t event stop abusing the poor apostrophe. It’s a 9000 thousand-year-old piece of punctuation.
Also funny how most everyone here is trying their darndest to seem enlightened on this subject.
 

MagnesG

Banned
OP did you mean Dragon's Crown as an example?

Those praise is what ticks me off the most, clearly double standard in their face.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Easy.

Make a game for horndogs with underage anime style girls squealing, lifting their high school skirts and spreading their legs for panty shots in photo mode = censorship

Make a game where the point of the game isn't sex, but it might have some sex scenes (God of War, GTA etc....), where the visuals have more mature looking characters and they aren't putting their crouch in triple zoom mode into the screen = let it slide
 

MagnesG

Banned
Make a game for horndogs with underage anime style girls squealing, lifting their high school skirts and spreading their legs for panty shots in photo mode = censorship
Looks like a straight up doujin game.

Make a game where the point of the game isn't sex, but it might have some sex scenes (God of War, GTA etc....), where the visuals have more mature looking characters and they aren't putting their crouch in triple zoom mode into the screen = let it slide
Comparing the lowest of the low to somewhat tolerable high. Hyperbole much.
 

Danjin44

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Problem here with most journalists and some people here is they think enjoying sexy character design is all about "being horny and want to masturbate to them". They forget lots of straight woman cosplay as sexy characters like 2B because they simply enjoy the design, it has nothing to being "horny" or anything.

Games like Catherine which has no nudity or sex and most cast full adults but it has high chance of getting censored just because it has anime art style.


This more to do with entire nature culture in west. In west "cartoon" art style should never be for adults unless it comedy like South Park or Family Guy, I mean did we ever see serious animated adult movie like Ghost in the Shell or Akira in west? No!! because in west if it is adult story then it should be live action rather than animation.
 
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Problem here with most most journalists and some people here is they think enjoying sexy character design is all about "being horny and want to masturbate to them". They forget lots of straight woman cosplay as sexy characters like 2B because they simply enjoy the design, it has nothing to being "horny" or anything.
I was actually at a con this weekend, and I'd say that the vast majority of costumes that women wore were skin tight spandex suits - particularly Spider-Gwen for some reason. Like, there must've been 30-40 Spider-Gwens there, maybe more, all in the same store-bought suit.

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Saw a Slave Leia and a 2B too. Those skin suits were popular with guys too, whom I had no trouble telling the religion of. Cons are apparently where you can explicitly show the outline of your penis to people and not get arrested.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also saw some Mortal Kombat girls - but from the early Mortal Kombat games when the characters were sexy.
 
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