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Why do you think Playstation is Hiding their First party games?
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Go_Ly_Dow
Member
What's happened is obsession over graphics. Where if a game has a low res texture or two you get trolls in the boards focusing in on that everyday until release.
So, if you want games that look like Horizon FB, TLOU 2 and better, then you're gonna have to wait a very long time for them and also expect a lower output of games from the studio.
They do but people just don't know they exist because they don't actually care about them. They only use it to show some kind of "change" in a corporation fueled by nostalgia. Look at Sword of the Sea, nobody is talking about it because it's a small game. People don't actually care, they just act like they do.
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Astray
Gold Member
Reminds me a lot of Intel's tick-tock product strategy, which was basically slowing down their tech advancement to milk everything they could, which worked for a long-ass time right until the competition sorted its shit out and now their market share is getting devoured HARD.
Camreezie
Member
Thats all well and good but Sucker Punch, Housemarque, Bend and Naughty Dog have all not released or revealed new games in years
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Sony showed off a few new AAA games that looked good, the problem is that most of them were CG teasers or not technically first party.
I dunno how MS showing one new AAA is a “home run”
All MS needs to do for a better conference is show off Fable, Avowed, PD, Hellblade 2, and Everwild gameplay …stuff they’ve announced for years. They don’t even need new game reveals if all those show up and look good
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ProtoByte
Member
But the plurality of that showcase was dedicated to artsy fartsy indie shit that nobody cares about.
Fuck you guys who have complained about Sony's "formula" of AAA, narrative driven single player games. Now, we don't have it, and most of you are bitching.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Should have been shoved on to its own state of play
John Wick
Member
Why? They have FF16 due soon. Then the holiday 3rd party games like Fifa, Cod, Assassins Creed etc will arrive and Spiderman 2. There is also Helldivers 2 and other smaller games.
Why blow your load now?
Also let's see how the MS showcase plays out. They are holding things in reserve just incase.
John Wick
Member
How are they arrogant? Just because they didn't blow their load in one showcase?
They can do State of Play whenever they need to show a banger.
X-Wing
Member
Because readying demo's and trailers for showcases puts extra pressure on the teams. Pressure that they don't need.
They will show something when they feel comfortable about showing something.
Even without major announcements PlayStation is doing commercially fine, so no pressure needed.
They will show something when they feel comfortable about showing something.
Even without major announcements PlayStation is doing commercially fine, so no pressure needed.
TheGodfather07
Member
This is what happens when you dominate with barely any effort and your competition sucks ass.
Famipan
Member
I think they want to keep a low profile until the Blizzard case has finished.
They are probably also saving more stuff for the PS5 Pro reveal later this year.
Having released a lot of strong first party titles they don’t want to push forward SP-games before they are ready. Many games has large changes in the last two years so the only option would be to show some CGI trailer which makes fans just disappointed. And even CGI trailers may show stuff not in final product which may lead to disappointment.
There were lots of CGI here too but it was mostly 3rd party and GAAS.
They are probably also saving more stuff for the PS5 Pro reveal later this year.
Having released a lot of strong first party titles they don’t want to push forward SP-games before they are ready. Many games has large changes in the last two years so the only option would be to show some CGI trailer which makes fans just disappointed. And even CGI trailers may show stuff not in final product which may lead to disappointment.
There were lots of CGI here too but it was mostly 3rd party and GAAS.
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John Wick
Member
They were very selective in what they showed. The big games will get their own State of Play reveals.
Fabieter
Member
Besides the sqaure enix 4vs4 game, the Trailers for the other GaaS games did a bad job to actually sell what was shown.
SaucyJack
Member
I tend to agree.
I do wonder if there will another showcase towards the end of the summer that focuses on games for 2024.
Hopes were high because we hadn’t had Showcase for 18 months, but perhaps we will return to the normal situation of having 2 or 3 of these a year. This was predominantly 3rd party, hopefully next one is more 1st party focussed.
Oddvintagechap
Member
They trying to get a successful block of Microsoft/Activision.
That’s why.
That’s why.
rhodesianshepard
Member
Death Stranding 2 will most likely show up at Summer Game Fest, and maybe Rise of Ronin too? Both of those are 2024 PS5 exclusives. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is also early 2024, with Wolverine possibly releasing late 2024. That's a really solid lineup if all those games release
It sucks Factions wasn't there, but I think Naughty Dog is playing things close to the chest. They've mentioned how they won't repeat the mistakes of the past with putting extra pressure on developers. They could potentially announce and release the game within a month because it's a GAAS title
Sony overall, didn't show really anything past 2024, as they themselves have completely changed their marketing from previous generations. They no longer teasing games that are years out
It sucks Factions wasn't there, but I think Naughty Dog is playing things close to the chest. They've mentioned how they won't repeat the mistakes of the past with putting extra pressure on developers. They could potentially announce and release the game within a month because it's a GAAS title
Sony overall, didn't show really anything past 2024, as they themselves have completely changed their marketing from previous generations. They no longer teasing games that are years out
Elog
Member
I think Jim - unfortunately - is thinking tactically about this. He has the momentum - as long as he pulls off an ok showcase (which he did), he is good. Now he can see where MS lands during the summer. He has a lot of dry gunpowder to use if need be after the MS show and when Starfield is about to launch.
This is what happens when competition is weak. I do not believe all Sony 1st party studios have been standing still for one second.
This is what happens when competition is weak. I do not believe all Sony 1st party studios have been standing still for one second.
John Wick
Member
Because Internet bitches whinge and moan when they see alpha footage.
Maybe some of you need to wake up. The old E3 format of showing games years in advance is finished. Sony have State of Play to show what and when they need to. There are two big games due this year FF16 and Spiderman 2. Along with smaller titles and surprises and 3rd party marketed games like AC.
Woopah
Member
Maybe that will be the case in the future, but it definitely hasn't been so far.
There has been 10+ Sony published PS5 games announced in their Showcases, including 4 more in the one last night.
Has any Sony published PS5 game been announced in a State of Play apart from Rise of the Ronin? I could be forgetting something.
rhodesianshepard
Member
Look at HFW and GOWR. HFW was announced in mid 2020 and was expected to release in 2021. GOWR was announced in late 2020 with a 2021 release date. Sony is no longer announcing games that are more than 1.5 years away. The marketing has completely changed.
Sucker Punch and Bluepoint's next game should ideally take 4-5 years of development time. 6 months or so should be added to that estimate due to covid as well. Sony isn't announcing games 2+ years away anymore. Both Sucker Punch and Blue Point could be right on track with those estimates, given Sony's announced to release window
Naughty Dog is expected to reveal Factions this year, as stated by its president. It's a GAAS game, so it's release could be imminent after it's reveal. Also, Bend Studio was a support studio until recently. Their new IP most likely just recently began full production, so 2026-7
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
When the creation of a little trailer is too much of a hassle for a couple hundred men strong dev team, you could film a short behind the scenes look, interview a dev or something just anything would be enough to give an update and keep people entertained. I don't understand the gameplay or nothing mentality. Games far out and ones that release within the next couple months should balance each other out every time.
Woopah
Member
I wouldn't say it has completely changed, Sony has announced several games they are publishing that will come out more than 1.5 years after release:
Spiderman 2
Wolverine
KOTOR remake
Marathon
And that's if you don't count God of War Ragnarok, Horizon 2 and GT7.
We don't know yet if Death Stranding 2, Rise of the Ronin and Fairgame will release within 1.5 years of announcement, but I'm not too convinced all of them will.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Damn you Microsoft! You're even the reason that Sony is shit now!!
Damn youuuuuu!
Seriously, if you honestly believe the crazy gymnastics your mind just did....Now imagine if Microsoft left gaming and Sony were free to do what they want?
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saintjules
Member
There wasnt anything from Spider-Man yesterday to warrant a solo SOP this far out. I expect one closer to release.
They just did one for GoWR. They just did that yesterday.
rhodesianshepard
Member
I think Disney partnership is the reason why Spiderman 2, Wolverine, and KOTOR all got announced early. I don't think Sony would announce these games, especially KOTOR, without pressure from Disney. And Bungie acts completely independent of Sony, so that should not mean much
Woopah
Member
Possibly but we have no proof or evidence pointing to that Disney strategy, especially as Sony is still the publisher. They are also the publisher for Marathon and therefore in charge of marketing.
I don't see a big difference in how those games were announced compared to how Fairgame and Death Stranding 2 were announced (CG trailer, most with no date).
StealthGoblin
Banned
Then the showcase shouldn’t have happened. It’s massively backfired and given the initiative to Xbox.
Being quiet for so long and then underwhelming everyone is either an act or arrogance or stupidity.
TheDreadLord
Gold Member
Why OP assumes they are hiding? Perhaps they don’t have anything to show. Perhaps the development of such games isn’t going well. Perhaps they are ugly as fuck. Perhaps they aren’t interesting. Perhaps they are so delayed that they won’t show up until 2025.
Alan Silvestro
Member
Because Microsoft-Activision affaire. 
Loxus
Member
If Microsoft shows GTA 6 or an unannounced Super hero game at their upcoming even, Sony would be forced to show an unannounced exclusive to maintain their momentum.
This is what I meant, Microsoft isn't giving Sony a reason to announce games years out.
rhodesianshepard
Member
What evidence do you need? It's not like Sony will ever come out and say that Disney pushed them to announce KOTOR before the game ever began full production. Sony never does that shit on their own, so where do you think that came from? Death Stranding 2 getting an announcement in December of 2022 for a 2024 release is in line with HFW and GODR announcement strategy. Fairgame will most likely come out within the next year or year and a half. And Sony will not publish Bungie games, Bungie will. Bungie is independent and surely gets to decide to when to announce its own games
Camreezie
Member
Any game taking 6 years is excessive. These dev cycles are getting fucking ridiculous
HazukiSensei
Banned
Pretty much. The damage control is whats sad. Peoplemdont want admit things suck right now. Its adorable, innocent, and sad at the same time.
HazukiSensei
Banned
And lets be honest, its not because they need that much time. Few devs take that long. Usually for groundbreaking, tech showcase titles.Theres other factors involved, and its mainly a money thing.
That and many of them found ways tk monetize the same game for an extended period of time.
HazukiSensei
Banned
Wait are you counting remasters? Lol
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
So, Sony only responds to Microsoft and doesn't lead?
Sounds like a true market leader to me.
This show was 2 years in the making and was bobbins...I'm not accepting any excuse that it's microsofts fault that Jim Ryan can't string two sentences together without editing.
Crimson_Fate
Member
Its simple.... They can only show so many live service games at a time.
Don't worry we'll get to see all those first party live service games they are working on as soon as these others fail.
Don't worry we'll get to see all those first party live service games they are working on as soon as these others fail.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Already calls for another showcase
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L*][*N*K
Banned
Probably because they are at least a year away from being ready to be shown, I highly doubt we will get any major Sony first party game next year, maybe Death Stranding but no Naughty Dog or Sucker Punch or Santa Monica, because if those games were ready to be released in a 20 months window they would have shown it.
Sony Fanboys, I know you guys are a bit jumpy today but you don't need to come after me, this is just my assumption.
Sony Fanboys, I know you guys are a bit jumpy today but you don't need to come after me, this is just my assumption.