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[DKehoe]

Here's your problem OP.

It's not even so much about needing to take it seriously. It's that if you want every detail explained in exhaustive detail (like how he got into Germany or how the rest of the zeppelin flight went after he threw the Nazi off) then you'd end up with pacing that would drag the film down.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Only the first film is worth the praise.

 

[Scotty W]

If you enjoyed it when you were 12, then it was everything it was meant to be.

 

[Trunx81]

I loved 3, for many things. First of all, the soundtrack was amazing. Likable characters. Mystery and adventure. Many set pieces, making the movie feel longer (in a good way) than it was. A lot of quotable lines. And, not to forget: An amazing point and click video game with the SCUMM engine.

Nothing beats Riders, but the blasphemy that we got with part 4 (Aliens ffs) is a turd compared to all the previous 3 movies.

 

[pramod]

It's not even so much about needing to take it seriously. It's that if you want every detail explained in exhaustive detail (like how he got into Germany or how the rest of the zeppelin flight went after he threw the Nazi off) then you'd end up with pacing that would drag the film down.

It still doesn't excuse the lazy writing though. Both the Zeppelin scene and Germany scene makes me think some guy thought "hey how cool would it be if Indy ran into Hitler? Or threw a nazi off a Zeppelin?" And then just tried to write that into the plot.

On the other hand in Raiders the writers just gave u the setup..you knew Indy had to somehow sneak into a nazi base, find the ark, rescue Marion, and escape with the ark..you have no idea how he could pull it off and it was amazing to watch it happen.

 

[pramod]

Actually I just realized my original premise is incorrect...the nazis didnt just let them get away and they had to escape the Zeppelin in a biplane. Somehow this part of the movie escaped my memory.

So my apologies..mods feel free to close this wretched thread.

 

[6502]

Actually I just realized my original premise is incorrect...the nazis didnt just let them get away and they had to escape the Zeppelin in a biplane. Somehow this part of the movie escaped my memory.

So my apologies..

I say you should watch the crystal skull as punishment.

Only the penitent man shall (get a) pass.

 

[Boodler81]

I say you should watch the crystal skull as punishment.

Only the penitent man shall (get a) pa

 

[Boodler81]

I would say all of the movies require major suspension of disbelief. Willie as the female lead in Temple was my favorite. I found it more enjoyable that Indy had someone on his quest that didn't want to be there instead of being like...I'm going with you. Also, Marion as a character does nothing for me. I think I'd rank 3,1,2. But each one has it's good and bad parts. I liked Crystal Skull until they got to the jungle. Then it just fell apart. Oh, and I am pretty sure The Last Crusade was the first movie I saw in theatres.

 

[Neff]

It's massively overrated. Ford and Connery make a comfy pair but the script is lazy, unoriginal, nonsensical, poorly-thought out, overly sentimental, and inconsistent with established characters.

Raiders, Doom and Crystal Skull are all far better movies, Doom especially.

too bad they made this instead of the monkey king script

The Monkey King script is dated '95, several years after Last Crusade. It's a decent script though. The opening in the haunted Scottish castle would have been amazing.

"hey how cool would it be if Indy ran into Hitler?"

That's the only truly great scene in the movie imo.

 

[QSD]

Because Crusade was a step up from Temple of Doom. Temple is the worst Indy film.

Boo! Boo this man! Temple is awesome, it's the only Indy film where anything goes.

 

[PrimetimeKnight]

Boo! Boo this man! Temple is awesome, it's the only Indy film where anything goes.

 

[MrMephistoX]

Because I love the film you don’t OP and that’s ok but I didn’t bother reading your nitpicks because I have better uses of my time than listening to armchair director’s notes from you or any other ad revenue generating negative hot takers on YouTube.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Harrison ford has amazing acting abilities I watched those Indy films growing up if they make a game it’s day 1.

 

[Quasicat]

It’s a good movie, but there are a ton of historical errors throughout.

Many of the cars were models that were built in the 1940s and 1950s even though the movie takes place in 1938.

The checkpoint between Austria and Germany would have been removed as Germany annexed Austria in March of that year, but the movie takes place in the summer.

Germany had stopped all passenger zeppelins after the Hindenburg exploded in 1937.

Many of the books, when they zoom in, show statistics from 1943, which makes no sense based on the year.

It’s not enough to ruin the film, but it does take me out of it a little bit.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Raiders of the Lost Ark>Temple of Doom>Last Crusade>Kingdom..blah blah blah....

All in order.

 

[Sabotage]

Come here son...

 

[Spaceman292]

My main problems with it are the writing which required too much suspension of disbelief. Also the tone is all over the place.

Indy needs the map book. So he sneaks into Nazi Germany and gets it without even us knowing exactly how he did it and "escapes" with zero effort.

The bad guy Nazi finds Indy and his dad as they are trying to escape from Germany on a GERMAN Zeppelin and Indy just throws him out the window and they just let them fly away. WTF?

Anyways this movie is just all over the place with its humor and plot holes while trying to make us take it really seriously.

I have more nitpicks like the tank chase taking too long but those are more minor. For me it's the weakest of the trilogy.

Fuck you

 

[AJUMP23]

It gets praise because it deserves it.

 

[Dural]

I know everyone hates on 4, but I’ll gladly take Shia and CGI monkeys (well, okay not “gladly” per say, but it’s the less painful option) over Willie screaming her head off every 5 seconds. Honestly one of my most hated characters in all of cinema. Some hate on Short Round but he barely registered with me considering he was chill in comparison to the “adult” freaking out all the time, and the movie would have been way better if it was just Indy and Short Round on the adventure.

Also, everyone freaks out over the fridge scene in 4, yet 2 had an equally bullshit scene with the falling life raft that should have killed everyone who fell.

Don’t get me wrong, 2 has good moments, for sure, but it’s weighed down by the bullshit. Asking me to enjoy 2 is like asking me to enjoy a really well made feast while I’m simultaneously being punched in the face every 30 seconds, it’s just not going to happen. 4 is mostly unremarkable but I’m not reaching for some headache medicine when I watch it.

If 1 is a 10/10 and 3 is a 9/10 for me, I view 4 as a 5/10 and 2 as a 3/10.

Also, just want to say, I’m a sucker for “riding/running off into the sunset” shots as the ending. Last Crusade’s final shot is just:

This was tested years ago on Mythbusters and it worked.

Temple of Doom is one of the best action movies ever made, it goes from one iconic scene to the next and never lets up. The original trilogy is damn near perfect.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Next year.

Written and directed by the guy who made these:

Thank christ for that, I now have hope!

 

[Esca]

I liked it but temple of doom is my favorite. First one I remember and short round was great

 

[IDKFA]

Next year.

Written and directed by the guy who made these:

Three great films.

However, let us not forget that he also directed Knight and Day, Kate & Leopold and the god-awful The Wolverine.

James Mangold has a mixed track record when it comes to directing. The new Indy film could be amazing like Logan, or could be absolute shite like The Wolverine.

 

[kunonabi]

This was tested years ago on Mythbusters and it worked.

Temple of Doom is one of the best action movies ever made, it goes from one iconic scene to the next and never lets up. The original trilogy is damn near perfect.

It's crazy just how many memorable set pieces, scenes, and moments ToD has. It's got more than some entire trilogies manage.

 

[INC]

Best Indy film followed closely by Kingdom of The Crystal Skull

You chose......poorly

 

[SlimySnake]

Temple of Doom was great. I never understood the hate.

 

[Spaceman292]

Three great films.

However, let us not forget that he also directed Knight and Day, Kate & Leopold and the god-awful The Wolverine.

James Mangold has a mixed track record when it comes to directing. The new Indy film could be amazing like Logan, or could be absolute shite like The Wolverine.

I kinda like The Wolverine but you're right. I can't imagine the new indy movie being any good.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

It’s a good movie, but there are a ton of historical errors throughout.

Many of the cars were models that were built in the 1940s and 1950s even though the movie takes place in 1938.

The checkpoint between Austria and Germany would have been removed as Germany annexed Austria in March of that year, but the movie takes place in the summer.

Germany had stopped all passenger zeppelins after the Hindenburg exploded in 1937.

Many of the books, when they zoom in, show statistics from 1943, which makes no sense based on the year.

It’s not enough to ruin the film, but it does take me out of it a little bit.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

You could mention that knights can’t live for a thousand years and earthquakes aren’t contained to a single building while you were at it.

Spoiler

Just a bit of sarcasm. Enjoy what you like

 

[Wildebeest]

Temple of Doom was great. I never understood the hate.

The world is a much darker and bleaker place now compared to when it was released. At the time, it was considered too dark.

 

[Pagusas]

It’s a good movie, but there are a ton of historical errors throughout.

Many of the cars were models that were built in the 1940s and 1950s even though the movie takes place in 1938.

The checkpoint between Austria and Germany would have been removed as Germany annexed Austria in March of that year, but the movie takes place in the summer.

Germany had stopped all passenger zeppelins after the Hindenburg exploded in 1937.

Many of the books, when they zoom in, show statistics from 1943, which makes no sense based on the year.

It’s not enough to ruin the film, but it does take me out of it a little bit.

If the next film really is about time travel... then all that is easily explained!

 

[Insane Metal]

I love Indy so much that I would even rewatch KotCS sorry guys

 

[Quasicat]

This is why we can’t have nice things.

You could mention that knights can’t live for a thousand years and earthquakes aren’t contained to a single building while you were at it.

Spoiler

Just a bit of sarcasm. Enjoy what you like

Well now you’re just being silly.

Spoiler

also a little bit of sarcasm.

 

[winjer]

It's not a perfect movie. But I would say it's the second best Indy movie.
The Lost Ark is still my favorite.

 

[poppabk]

Because it was a fun adventure with great leads playing off each other. The first movie resolves itself without actually needing Indy but who cares, it's a fun pulpy 50s style action movie with a great director and a great cast.

 

[Badlucktroll]

This movie was almost Indiana Jones and the Monkey King. It even got as far as location scouting. I think it would have been more similar to temple of doom than what we got.
https://www.eightieskids.com/indiana-jones-and-the-monkey-king-the-sequel-too-mad-to-get-made/
Still wish we got an Atlantis Indiana Jones in the 90s.

 

[IWasInSeinfeld]

I wanted to watch this movie again for a long time, thank you, OP, for inspiring me to do it, I will be back later to discuss it.

 

[Oberstein]

Wasn't last crusade set before ww2? Still nazi germany, but probably not as tightly locked down.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Because Crusade was a step up from Temple of Doom. Temple is the worst Indy film.

Not the worse, the one with the crystal skull is the worst.

I have mixed feelings about Temple of Doom. Somethings are awful but it also has a lot of great scenes and sequences:
-Intro sequence
-The bugs in the trap
-The snake/bug dinner
-The mine cart sequence
-Some great jokes "Water, water, water... WATER!!"

In the end I find it to be a lot of fun and enjoyable movie.

 

[joedan]

Temple of Doom is my favourite India Jones Movie. [shrugs]

Random point. Adventures of Bayou Billy is a great NES game.

 

[SpiceRacz]

Not the worse, the one with the crystal skull is the worst.

I have mixed feelings about Temple of Doom. Somethings are awful but it also has a lot of great scenes and sequences:
-Intro sequence
-The bugs in the trap
-The snake/bug dinner
-The mine cart sequence
-Some great jokes "Water, water, water... WATER!!"

In the end I find it to be a lot of fun and enjoyable movie.

Never heard of this 'Crystal Skull' film you speak of.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Never heard of this 'Crystal Skull' film you speak of.

Good for you!!
I wish I had never heard of it too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull

 

[Dural]

Temple of Doom is my favourite India Jones Movie. [shrugs]

Random point. Adventures of Bayou Billy is a great NES game.

Agreed on both points.

Played the shit out of Bayou Billy as a kid.

 

[SpiceRacz]

Good for you!!
I wish I had never heard of it too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull

I'm kidding. That movie sucks dick and I try to erase it from my memory.

 

[LimanimaPT]

I'm kidding. That movie sucks dick and I try to erase it from my memory.

Sorry for reminding you...

 

[RaduN]

A few dumb, crowd pleasing moments, sure, but that ending...that fucking ending: "Indiana...Indiana, let it go" it was an absolutely amazing moment in every possible way.

If a saga ever had a perfect ending, then it's definitely this one.