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[TheD]

Being an x86 the Durango is even older than that.

Edit: beaten.

No, it is not.

The base ISA is a fair few years old, but the CPUs they are going to use will have a much more modern version of the ISA and use a modern Microarchitecture.

 

[onQ123]

Oh god, I would LOL myself to death if this is true

Why?

 

[CuboidFX]

Dang, well at least the 720'll get some nice Wii U ports!

 

[GAMERG0D]

I'm not a CPU expert but come on guys...GHz isn't all that determines how good the CPU is.

 

[Izick]

Why would a wii hacker have this information?

.

 

[CambriaRising]

NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE

 

[theman5141]

Reggie: "It's got the same processor, it's got the same games"

 

[Thoraxes]

But like the Wii U, it will still be on more modern architecture, so it's fine.

 

[GaussTek]

Guys, the 1.6GHz CPU probably will be used on the XBOX TV Top Box...

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/21/3674802/xbox-tv-set-top-box-casual-gaming-streaming-2013

...Right?

 

[Gospel]

Wow, this tells us a whole lot

 

[Insane Metal]

Well if it's an 8 core, dual-threaded per core processor based on today's best CPU's I wouldn't mind... lol. But it won't be anything like that.

 

[Akkad]

Orbis will save us, love Sony.

 

[Graphics Horse]

This new carnival of stupid runs on more threads than the next gen systems could dream of.

 

[TheD]

But like the Wii U, it will still be on more modern architecture, so it's fine.

The PPC 750 is hardly modern.

 

[Valnen]

But like the Wii U, it will still be on more modern architecture, so it's fine.

Nope. Modern architecture AND a fast clock speed is what we should be getting from next gen consoles.

This is probably Microsoft just massively worrying about hardware failure, they don't want a repeat of the 360's heat issues.

 

[Desty]

Should I cancel my pre-order just to be safe?

 

[Error Macro]

Espresso @ 1.24GHz = Nintendo are some cheap bastards, I swear
Durango @ 1.6GHz = whoa Microsoft made dat dere architecture sikk as fawk!!

 

[KojiKnight]

Wow, this tells us a whole lot

It really and truly doesn't. I don't have a twitter account, but if anyone else would like to try and ask Marcan to get some more details, I'll be glad to update the OP.

(edit) that wasn't snark, I was fully agreeing with you that the clock rate by itself means nothing.

 

[Router]

I call bullshit.

It would line up with the rumors that Durango had an 8-16 core cpu.

 

[frankie_baby]

Orbis will save us, love Sony.

That'll split the difference and be 1.4ghz

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

How many pixels is it going to show, that is the question. Where is the pixel counting dude when you need him...

 

[Darryl]

I'm not a CPU expert but come on guys...GHz isn't all that determines how good the CPU is.

did you even read the tweet?

 

[Arklite]

Orbis will save us, love Sony.

Yeah, apparently all they have to do is cross that new pinnacle 2.0 Ghz range

 

[NinjaTehFish]

How many Halo's is that taped together?

 

[frankie_baby]

It would line up with the rumors that Durango had a 16 core cpu.

What someone saw the 1 and the 6 and listed it as cores not GHz?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Espresso @ 1.24GHz = Nintendo are some cheap bastards, I swear
Durango @ 1.6GHz = whoa Microsoft made dat dere architecture sikk as fawk!!

Ok I laughed here.

 

[aeolist]

What the holy fuck is wrong with you people

 

[TheD]

Espresso @ 1.24GHz = Nintendo are some cheap bastards, I swear
Durango @ 1.6Ghz = whoa Microsoft made dat dere architecture sikk as fawk!!

PPC 750 based cores at 1.24Ghz = weak.

Modern AMD or Intel CPU at 1.6Ghz = strong-ish.

 

[Lonely1]

I can OC my Phone to higher!

 

[Eyothrie]

Why? What does this tell you that you get lulz from?

Because this rumored clock speed is roughly the same as the Wii U's CPU clock speed, and the Wii U got killed because of it

 

[NinjaTehFish]

But can it run Cortana?

 

[Toki767]

That means whatever runs on the console will be able to run on the new new iPad.

 

[Pranay]

Espresso @ 1.24GHz = Nintendo are some cheap bastards, I swear
Durango @ 1.6GHz = whoa Microsoft made dat dere architecture sikk as fawk!!

According to rumours it has 8-16 core [durango ie] , if thats the the case then it destroys wii u cpu

 

[firebricks3]

There's a few factors at play here, with frequency being one of them. Other equally important ones are cache speeds/hit frequency at each level, average instructions retired per cycle (which paired with frequency, usually gives a more accurate picture) and flush/exception/mispredict penalties. You can get away with a shorter pipe sometimes when paired with a somewhat lower frequency (which can lower the impact of the aforementioned penalties). They are all tied to the architecture and until we know what that actually means, the frequency alone doesn't paint very much of a picture.

 

[Sandfox]

A lot of people are getting defensive without reading the tweet.

 

[Mrbob]

Wasn't there a rumor of MS having a 16 core CPU?

That is the only way I buy ths rumor.

 

[statham]

What the holy fuck is wrong with you people

they been clicking refresh every 5 minutes for something exciting.

 

[KojiKnight]

What the holy fuck is wrong with you people

People are just having a bit of fun with this new "info". It's not a good idea to take gaf seriously 100% of the time.

 

[Instro]

Would be funny for the reactions. It's likely to be clocked less than 3.2ghz either way.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Espresso @ 1.24GHz = Nintendo are some cheap bastards, I swear
Durango @ 1.6GHz = whoa Microsoft made dat dere architecture sikk as fawk!!

:lol

 

[TheChits]

I just don't know how I'll be able to enjoy the games if this is true.

 

[Fivefold]

Are we seriously making threads based on "some guy from twitter" now?

And why is that even relevant? Clock speed without other arch details such as number of cores, etc... is absolutely useless as a way to gauge power... this just sounds like WiiU damage control.

 

[Neff]

Architecture makes a difference

Indeed. Comparing numbers is irrelevant. How the machine is engineered and prioritised is what makes the difference, particularly as technology changes.

The time I've spent with Nintendo Land and Sonic All Stars Racing confirms that the alarmist view of Wii U being a performance-crippled console is demonstrably false.

BTW that locked @ 50hz Wii mode on Wii U thing in the tweet is bullshit before anybody freaks out about it.

 

[Router]

What someone saw the 1 and the 6 and listed it as cores not GHz?

No, I mean that if they are indeed running the 16core CPU then the clock speed could be much lower than the 360's 3.2ghz with 3 cores.

 

[netBuff]

I love how this very uninspiring thread is basically the Wii U technical/clock speed thread telling the world how fantastic its CPU is by saying "clock speed isn't everything" while at the same time claiming the next Xbox has a similar CPU as the Wii U based on it's (dubiously) rumoured clockspeed.

 

[Orayn]

Are we seriously making threads based on "some guy from twitter" now?

And why is that even relevant? Clock speed without other arch details such as number of cores, etc... is absolutely useless as a way to gauge power... this just sounds like WiiU damage control.

Marcan is a renowned hardware hacker who doesn't really have any vested interest in which system is the most powerful.

 

[DonMigs85]

How would a 1.6 GHz quad-core Ivy Bridge i7 compare to Xenon, I wonder.

 

[wsippel]

Why would a wii hacker have this information?

Marcan is well connected. He also hacks everything, not just Nintendo systems. He wrote the Linux drivers for Kinect for example.

 

[Kerub]

So it will be half as powerful as the 360?

 

[RedSwirl]

BUT DUDES, HOW MANY BITS?

I was starting to think the same thing. Is raw clock speed starting to become as irrelevant as bits?