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Wii U FAQ, translated from Japanese
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Ha! You have to cover all the bases.
Ok, I'll try. Thanks!
Wait, I thought Wii owners didn't buy hardcore games....?
I'm so confused now, should go lay down.
You'd want useful or meaningful "accomplishments" and not "finish first mission on any difficulty" "finish second mission on any difficulty"
Meesh
Member
True, i'm getting two Wiius at launch and dont want to have to pay extra to dl on my second Wiiu like I did with Wii.
Where do you get that? They're there but just required or system wide. By this point I am ok with that.
This pisses me off to no end. It's the same fucking hardware. There's no reason why it can't upscale Wii games to 720p.
I was going to buy a Wii U so I can finally play games like Xenoblade and TLS in HD (as well as some other Wii games that've been released over the years) -- but I guess Nintendo doesn't want my money.
Epic smh.
Did Xbox 360 upscale Xbox games when you played them on your Xbox 360...
Wait, that's the ONLY reason you'd buy it? Dude, Dolphin is free.
True, i'm getting two Wiius at launch and dont want to have to pay extra to dl on my second Wiiu like I did with Wii.
WHAT?! Why 2 of them?
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Hell, do any PS3 have bc now?
Nicely done sir.
...it's different hardware.Do they? Do they upscale PS2 games for Diablos?
When the hardware is the same there's no reason why they can't upscale.
Oh... so just because Nintendo decided to use similar hardware, they have to figure out and implement a method to improve the visuals of games developed for an older platform to please you? And you would know for a fact that this is simple for them. The backwards compatibility itself isn't enough? Should I be upset that if I buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 or Vita right now, I can't play the previous gen games? How do you know if there is or isn't a "reason why they can't?"
You aren't even satisfied with the Wii game being released as is, to be displayed as intended? Why buy it then? It's a Wii game. Made for the Wii. Released for the Wii. Get over it. It's a Wii game.
Play it on dolphin.
JimboJones
Member
To be fair is a little dissapointing there is no basic upscaling/filter options (not referring to uprezzing, thats not gonna happen with 99% backwards compatibility).
Can't wait for this thing to launch, I'm betting we are gonna get more important questions answered by gaffers following launch day than Nintendo have in the past year.
That's fine for regular achievements (it's "you started the game!" that I resent to the point that when I see them I want achievements/trophies to outright disappear), but I definitely can see how those would get annoying on Miiverse.
There's little reason not to upscale even if the hardware's different... so long as the system has a good scaler built in.
What you meant, I think, is upping the resolution, and there's plenty good reason to not bother supporting that. We're not talking PC games that are designed in advance with some degree of scalability in mind, these are console games design to perform at a specific level at a specific resolution. It's possible that the Wii U can't keep up with, say, putting Xenoblade at 720/1080p, or weird issues crop up. Then there might be issues with the HUD, or minor visual glitches that are really annoying, or whatever. The safest thing is to run EXACTLY like on the Wii, and only use a hardware scaler to create a decent looking HD signal, much like 360 or PS3.
I'm all for a discussion on what the Wii U technically can and can't do when it displays a Wii game. I'm all for a discussion on why Nintendo would or wouldn't implement such features.
But some people just act like Nintendo did some evil by not adding these features. As if all other game consoles ever provide this level of backwards compatibility support. Nintendo is letting you play the game as intended - the BC should display as if you insert the disc into a Wii. That's all Nintendo has ever claimed and that is what they deliver.
Yeah. I was expecting a firestorm of press releases and information this final week or two from NOA, but have been very disappointed. I guess in a year's time, it won't matter much. Still excited for launch.
If it's anything like the 3DS all game data (saves, digital downloads) are encrypted, and that's why the data on the external storage can't be read by another Wii U.
plagiarize
Banned
the hardware *isn't* the same. how do you figure it's the same?
Cheesemeister
Member
Added re-confirmation of user-selectable, alphanumeric NNIDs in the OP.
Smiles and Cries
Member
interested in this but hard to find where u updated
I was hoping for a solid max character number they seem to not know last time but my guess is 14 a guess from Hatena ID
So has nothing at all be said about a party voice chat system?.
the androgyne
Member
That WiiWare & VC stuff in the Wii Shop channel is so predictable of Nintendo.
Considering how much importance they place on backwards compatibility you'd think they'd have had the foresight (back with Wii) to program it in a future proof manner.
I wonder if they're ever going to realise how much time and money it costs them to work around their shitty legacy systems instead of getting it right in the first place!
Considering how much importance they place on backwards compatibility you'd think they'd have had the foresight (back with Wii) to program it in a future proof manner.
I wonder if they're ever going to realise how much time and money it costs them to work around their shitty legacy systems instead of getting it right in the first place!
Nintendo Network has been their answer to that.
Smiles and Cries
Member
yeah thanks, I remembered 'willwill' and did a find for that after I posted
it feels so good to never hear the friends code complaints ever again :3
Cheesemeister
Member
Nothing at all.
brandonh83
Banned
Do we know for absolute certain if downloaded games are tied to the console rather than an account?
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Cheesemeister, we may need your help again. ONM is saying that for you to play a digital title, it must be stored on the internal memory of the console itself. So basically, the external harddrives can only store games but you can't actually play them from it. To play them, you have to move them to the actual console itself.
I'm assuming this is a very poor translation on ONM's part, because even on the 3DS you can play games that are stored on external memory.
Edit: They are saying they found this information on Nintendo's Wii U Japan page.
I'm assuming this is a very poor translation on ONM's part, because even on the 3DS you can play games that are stored on external memory.
Edit: They are saying they found this information on Nintendo's Wii U Japan page.
It looks like it's both. They are tied to the system, but owned by your account. So once you download it to an HDD, you can't plug that into another machine and play them. However, you should be able to redownload them using your account (Possibly to another machine )but that's the part that's still a little hazy I think.
EVERYONE WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION PLEASE
Because this will cause a NeoGAF meltdown if true.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
EVERYONE WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION PLEASEBecause this will cause a NeoGAF meltdown if true.
Exactly why I posted it here. Even Nintendo isn't that stupid. This was a problem on Wii, but they fixed it with the 3DS. Besides, basic sku buyers would basically be screwed when it comes to digital content.
Then one has to assume that it isn't there. Why wouldn't they say anything about it if it was there?
DaSorcerer7
Member
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
So.... I did some digging, and it's not on the website according to multiple people now. Did ONM just pull this out of their ass?
Is this site correct or are they just so wrong its laughable?
They source the FAQ. Author also says he could have messed it up. So....yea.
http://gimmegimmegames.com/2012/11/...t-copy-games-back-to-systems-internal-memory/
They source the FAQ. Author also says he could have messed it up. So....yea.
http://gimmegimmegames.com/2012/11/...t-copy-games-back-to-systems-internal-memory/
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
It's only a matter of time before that becomes a thread. It's an epic meltdown waiting to happen.
Popcorn anyone?
Edit: Nate it looks like an inaccurate translation on ONM's part.
Popcorn anyone?
Edit: Nate it looks like an inaccurate translation on ONM's part.
So with the basic model, if you download a game thats more than 8 gigs to the usb drive...it cannot be played since it cannot be moved to the internal memory.
Can someone translate that better..? Cheese..?
According to that site, yes. It definitely must be a mistranslation.
I think we should wait for a better translation because the article even admits he may have messed it up.
maquiladora
Member
Wat...wat? That cannot be true, surely.
Wait so this means I can't play brawl with a gamecube controler on the Wii U?
Man these questions reveal so many fails about the Wii U. Come on it can't even play dvds?! Well it probaly can my Wii can sure it has to be hacked to do so but it can. Also no achivments that makes me kind of sad I don't understand why you wouldn't put this in here. Also the lack of universal voice chat is rather anoying. Overall this system software wise is more limited than the current gen xbox and that is just stupid once microsoft releases the next gen xbox the nintendo will be really far behind I would imagine.