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Wii U To Use 'Modern', 'Custom' AMD GPU With Multiple Display Support (5000+ series?)
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themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
True, since the trailer they showed was barely Atari 2600 level of graphics.Vinci said:
wsippel said:
Wii :
volume : 6.18 inches wide, 1.73 inches tall and 8.48 inches deep = 90.6 inches cube (1.2 kg)
dissipative surface : (6.18*1.73)*2 + (1.73*8.48)*2 + (8.48*6.18)*2 = 155 inches square
Wii U :
volume : 6.8 inches wide, 1.8 inches tall and 10.5 inches deep = 128.52 inches square
dissipative surface : (6.8*1.8)*2 + (1.8*10.5)*2 + (10.5*6.8)*2 = 205 inches square
Wii U is 128.52/90.6 = 141% as large as Wii.
Wii U has 205/128.52 = 159% as much dissipative surface as Wii
Dissipative surface is a good tool to work with since it is proportional to the power emitted. You can roughly say that the Wii U has a 59% headroom in dissipation in regard to the Wii. Of course, it is totally irrevelant in our case given the complexity of the physical arrangement of stuff inside but, hey, who cares.
Zoramon089
Banned
USC-fan said:
Versus how many devs (and I don't mean people on GAF) claiming the contrary?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I think IGN was talking about Zelda demo there, as that was the last thing they saw.Amir0x said:
HisshouBuraiKen
Member
Amir0x said:
I think devs can still depend on space existing, there was technically (a pittance of) built-in storage on the Wii and last we heard the rumor was 8 GB built in to WiiU. Not comparable to a HDD for sure but enough to where devs can count on there being enough space for map packs and stuff. Then it's up to people whether or not they want to do the SD card shuffle or spring for a USB HDD. Personally I've got no shortage of USB storage so if not including a proprietary drive reduces the cost of the console I'm all for it.
The one WUT per console is a head scratcher though, but it's early yet so there's a chance they'll make some changes after seeing people's reactions and expecations of using more than one.
Encore regarding the heat dissipation thing :
This video (from Kotaku) shows some hands-on the Wii U (literally) :
http://www.youtube.com/user/ZeldaInformer#p/u/8/oo15iruRD9I
You can see how flat and long it actually is, which is perfect for dissipation. I think Wii U engineers did tackle the problem. We could probably have a more power-consuming GPU inside that what we got in the Wii. I hope we get something in the 50 Watts range.
This video (from Kotaku) shows some hands-on the Wii U (literally) :
http://www.youtube.com/user/ZeldaInformer#p/u/8/oo15iruRD9I
You can see how flat and long it actually is, which is perfect for dissipation. I think Wii U engineers did tackle the problem. We could probably have a more power-consuming GPU inside that what we got in the Wii. I hope we get something in the 50 Watts range.
If Nintendo are too lazy to bring us decent online they should partner up with Valve and bring steam to the Wii-U.
It's besides the point because I doubt the system shown has the full hardware, probably a placeholder GPU/CPU, I wouldn't be surprised to see both the console and the controller change before we see it next year.
It's besides the point because I doubt the system shown has the full hardware, probably a placeholder GPU/CPU, I wouldn't be surprised to see both the console and the controller change before we see it next year.
The console is probably 14-17 months from release, so it's safe to say the hardware isn't done and that's why they're not talking about it.
Given that it's a 2012 release that will need to target somewhere around $300 retail and Nintendo will likely want to at least break even on that, I think we'll get some mid-range 2010 PC GPU (hopefully Radeon 5770 level) with some custom hardware features that better suit it to console application. 5770 level is probably asking too much of Nintendo, but we can hope right?
Should be more powerful than 360/PS3 by quite a bit, but that may be irrelevant if Sony & Microsoft come to E3 2012 with new hardware (ie that competes with high-end PC at the time) and get the third parties to develop the next gen on their systems first, leaving PS3/360 ports for the Wii U. If that occurs, then the Wii U may not get much better third party support than its predecessor did.
Given that it's a 2012 release that will need to target somewhere around $300 retail and Nintendo will likely want to at least break even on that, I think we'll get some mid-range 2010 PC GPU (hopefully Radeon 5770 level) with some custom hardware features that better suit it to console application. 5770 level is probably asking too much of Nintendo, but we can hope right?
Should be more powerful than 360/PS3 by quite a bit, but that may be irrelevant if Sony & Microsoft come to E3 2012 with new hardware (ie that competes with high-end PC at the time) and get the third parties to develop the next gen on their systems first, leaving PS3/360 ports for the Wii U. If that occurs, then the Wii U may not get much better third party support than its predecessor did.
The Abominable Snowman said:
thing is, if dreamcast had the marketshare and backing, no reason it couldn't have had ports of multiplatform games - it wasn't *that* underpowered. other things did it in. WiiU should be good enough to handle multiplatform titles alongside PS4/720, using the same development pipeline. Wii suffered because it was so underpowered you had to port specially for it, and that means you need too much of an expected return to make it viable. As 'just another sku' with relatively low incremental costs to develop, its much more likely to be along for the multiplatform ride next time round. Add to that the solid first party titles they always bring and WiiU could do very well.
i also agree with Zen, that we have amazing things awaiting us once next gen comes out and the dev baseline shifts.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
Curufinwe said:
Pretty sure 17 months from now would be November 9th, 2012...
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Not if we skip November and December. They were extra months anyway. Same with January and February really. Mars through Augustus are the only ones that really count.Takeda Kenshi said:
I understand ATI's multi-display work and the Ryu's pad resolution. However, there's still a cost associated with multiple screens. If they want to fully support two tablet screens it's going to take more horsepower or reduced fidelity. I'd be willing to wager this is part of the reason some specs are a bit nebulous even though the kits are already out.HisshouBuraiKen said:
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
They'll slap a 5750m on it and call it a day.
AceBandage
Banned
I doubt it's using a mobile GPU...
[Nintex] said:
Sony spent billions in R&D on Cell and then combined it with nothing more than a slightly modified GeForce 7900 GT and then dubbed it RSX.
Nintendo will probably have ATI start with a modern, mid-range Radeon PC card and then customize it to better suit console gaming, lower the clocks a bit to reduce heat, and call it a day.
Buggy Loop
Member
Whats ArtX team been up to at ATI-AMD? Anyone know if they're responsible for any recent PC GPUs in the market? If they arent, they could potentially have been working on a custom GPU for nintendo. They're responsible for Flipper.