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WiiU - Undercooked and rushed to the market?

Meelow

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The online seems to be a huge step up from the Wii

Features missing
People seem to forget about the PS3 and 360 launch, and like every system launch.

3rd parties are luke warm over it.
Because Metro dev said the CPU is "horrible and slow" doesn't mean all devs are annoyed with Wii U, look at Ubisoft for example, they love the Wii U.

Reviews are piss poor
What? And the Verge article is laughable since they write misinformation.

No revolutionary killer app
The Gamepad may not be a revolution like the Wiimote was but it is a "killer app" to a lot of people.
 

andthebeatgoeson

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It looks somewhat bad right now but the waters are muddy at best. With that said, Nintendo is a brand people know and love, and that always pushes it far. Look at the iPhone for example; there are many other, clearly better alternatives out there, but there's an attachment and cultural bias people have to the Apple brand that pushes sales every new iteration.

Now, clearly Nintendo can't live on their name forever, so if the Wii U does turn out to be a colossal fuck-up, it will definitely hurt them, but they still have enough cache to make a complete 180 with the next console. That's just if the console is a complete disaster. If it's mediocre or good, then it doesn't really matter, as they still have their name, brand appeal, and they have a whole new chance to prove themselves.
I would even argue that it looks bad from a certain perspective. Like, Gaf's perspective. We'll see with sales. I know it's bannable to suggest people are non-bacterial persuaders, and I would never say that. There is plenty of legitimate criticism to be had for the U (unclear info, bad marketing, rushed launch). But the criticism has taken on a weird form. I wonder if some of the persuasion is resistant to antibiotics and just needs to be left alone while it runs it's course. I feel that I'm living in a sick world and need some more rational conversation.

But, gaf is gonna gaf. Maybe I'm just too old for this shit.

EXCITE EXCITE EXCITE....WHERE ARE MY MEDS? Can be best used to summarize the last week.
 

Hoo-doo

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The online seems to be a huge step up from the Wii



People seem to forget about the PS3 and 360 launch, and like every system launch.



Because Metro dev said the CPU is "horrible and slow" doesn't mean all devs are annoyed with Wii U, look at Ubisoft for example, they love the Wii U.



What? And the Verge article is laughable since they write misinformation.



The Gamepad may not be a revolution like the Wiimote was but it is a "killer app" to a lot of people.
None of these are proper arguments for a console launching in 2012. You're honestly saying that reviews aren't bad?

Also: Welcome back to the land of the living, Meelow!
 

andthebeatgoeson

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You have a point

I move in a lot of circles,a lot of them related to this medium,and still dont know a single person interested on the console,some of them on zombi u but 380 euros just for one game its a big hurdle for them

it strange,because some of them bought 3ds or vitas and a lot of them got the wii,boggles my mind how a lot of my friends who got the wii dont give a fuck about the wiiu

its not the console,its just the lineup,if you arent a big nintendo fan you dont have any incentive buy this system,not yet.
I legitimately think their marketing effort can be summed up in a few ways:
Get it out before thanksgiving.
Have a decent casual game that involves multiple people.
Let said game pull people in so you can get kids to beg for it during christmas.
Watch it sell out and get compared to the Wii, fueling the hype.
Blame it on the election.
Save $100 million
Schedule time for Iwata to laugh in March 2013 as we breeze by 6 million units sold, aiming for 12-14 million by January 2014.

But it translates into Japanese as 'Damnit, we have to rush and catch up on every level...we can't wait til 2013.'
 

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You know, the Wii U launch has been happening so fast, I haven't been able to really keep up with it.

But a few weeks ago, I remember a few weeks ago, people were extremely confident about the Wii U's success in Japan. They said the price would be right and that the system had a good lineup of popular games. Some people also speculated that the system's appeal would be more marketable to Japan than the West.

I can't remember, but I don't think the system launched in Japan yet. But is what we know now about the system enough to change the predictions that people were making back then?
 

Meelow

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None of these are proper arguments for a console launching in 2012. You're honestly saying that reviews aren't bad?

Also: Welcome back to the land of the living, Meelow!
But the feature thing is true, every system doesn't have all it's features by day 1, it happened with the 360/PS3/Wii, It happened with the 3DS, I'm not sure about Vita since I don't have one, it happened to the Wii U and it will happen with the PS4/720, Nintendo never took online seriously with the Wii, with the Wii U you need the online or you just have a system that plays games (crazy right? Lol), some of the games get bad reviews but it doesn't mean they are bad games, and I could say that about every system launch.

And thanks :)
 

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hey, OP, I noticed you updated the OP yesterday with new 'info' but didn't bother to correct your mistakes.

Thank you so much for spreading disinformation.
 

Thoraxes

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You know, the Wii U launch has been happening so fast, I haven't been able to really keep up with it.

But a few weeks ago, I remember a few weeks ago, people were extremely confident about the Wii U's success in Japan. They said the price would be right and that the system had a good lineup of popular games. Some people also speculated that the system's appeal would be more marketable to Japan than the West.

I can't remember, but I don't think the system launched in Japan yet. But is what we know now about the system enough to change the predictions that people were making back then?
No.

 

Darryl

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I can't remember, but I don't think the system launched in Japan yet. But is what we know now about the system enough to change the predictions that people were making back then?
The console isn't very much different than what people were predicting beforehand, so I don't see how it would be impacted at all.
 

bridegur

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Most of people's complaints so far either seem to pretty standard console launch problems or things we already knew (it's underpowered). The biggest problem I can see so far is the marketing. Large amounts of the general public either don't know about it or seem to think it's a peripheral for the Wii, not an altogether new console. It'll be interesting to see how the next year goes for it.
 

BGBW

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Brera needs to remember that the WiiU is currently the best selling system of this generation.
 

Freezie KO

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So with the initial colossal update out of the way, I was enjoying my Wii U, and then I checked this thread. I didn't realize Nintendo was in such bad shape.

Then I went to check www.IsNintendoDoomed.com, and even that site is down! It truly is the end times.
 

Loxley

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Most of people's complaints so far either seem to pretty standard console launch problems or things we already knew (it's underpowered). The biggest problem I can see so far is the marketing. Large amounts of the general public either don't know about it or seem to think it's a peripheral for the Wii, not an altogether new console. It'll be interesting to see how the next year goes for it.
It's amazing to me that Nintendo didn't learn its lesson from when they first unveiled the Wii U and a lot of people were confused as to whether it was a brand new console or an add-on for the Wii.

I have yet to see a single ad for the thing that explicitly states that the Wii U is a completely new and separate console from the Wii. The ads put too much emphasis on the controller, which is probably what is leading some consumers to believe that the Wii U is just the controller itself.
 

bridegur

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It's amazing to me that Nintendo didn't learn its lesson from when they first unveiled the Wii U and a lot of people were confused as to whether it was a brand new console or an add-on for the Wii.

I have yet to see a single ad for the thing that explicitly states that the Wii U is a completely new and separate console from the Wii. The ads put too much emphasis on the controller, which is probably what is leading some consumers to believe that the Wii U is just the controller itself.
Yeah, I think the advertising has been terrible at getting the message across. I also think the name and design aren't helping, either. They should've just called it Wii 2 and made it look starkly different than the Wii.
 

rpmurphy

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It's amazing to me that Nintendo didn't learn its lesson from when they first unveiled the Wii U and a lot of people were confused as to whether it was a brand new console or an add-on for the Wii.

I have yet to see a single ad for the thing that explicitly states that the Wii U is a completely new and separate console from the Wii. The ads put too much emphasis on the controller, which is probably what is leading some consumers to believe that the Wii U is just the controller itself.
Is this actually a significant detriment to public perception of the Wii U if people are looking at the console's defining feature as the tablet controller? Isn't that one of the goals that Nintendo is actually trying to do to market the console? As an example, is there a significant population of consumers who are looking at the Wii U and have no interest of the device simply because they think it is not a new console?
 
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As an example, is there a significant population of consumers who are looking at the Wii U and have no interest of the device simply because they think it is not a new console?
Strictly anecdotal, most people I talk to who are casually into video games think it's an accessory for the Wii.
 

rpmurphy

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It's more like surprise. The standard reaction when I say it's a new console is, "Oh, it is? I thought it was a tablet for the Wii. Huh."
Yeah, that's kind of what I figured would be the typical response. With regards to that affecting purchase intent, it could probably go in any direction.

I think the marketing problem that Nintendo has is that in general, people want more functionality with less complexity, and the issue with the Wii U is that it is just increased complexity in a whole lot of ways. Being able to simplify it down to a single, easy-to-understand point is definitely a challenge for Nintendo. They have a lot of different aspects of the console they want to make as selling points -- the off-screen gaming, two-screen gaming, tablet-like gaming, asymmetric local multiplayer, the social functions, etc. -- and there's no unifying concept that can make it easier to understand what the device is all about.
 

Neff

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I'm actually surprised people are as interested in it as they are, considering it doesn't yet offer anything significant that people can't get somewhere else.

The only real purchase incentives as of now are NSMBU, true HDMI for Wii/VC and the assurance that one day it'll be a great machine with awesome games.

For now though, it's kind of limp. Can't wait for mine anyway.