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Yeah, I think all that Find my Phone stuff is on by default, isn't it? Which means you should still be able to remote lock, wipe, put in a message with your phone number, and even track its location.
 
Got the HTC Arrive this weekend. Actually this is just a stop-gap until one of the better phones in the fall becomes available. I'm actually impressed. It's a sleek phone. A bit thinner than the Touch Pro 2 - actually the size and weight feel great. The OS is a winner though and definitely worth the wait. It sucks that this phone doesn't have 4G though.
 
That 7% market share is pretty good at this point.... most if not all wm6x devices are no longer being sold so that should be almost all wp7 marketshare.

With rim still on the decline wp7 should be poised to pass them for 3rd (webos is doing nothing). If they can get there before nokia even launches that will be pretty impressive.
 
maximum360 said:
Got the HTC Arrive this weekend. Actually this is just a stop-gap until one of the better phones in the fall becomes available. I'm actually impressed. It's a sleek phone. A bit thinner than the Touch Pro 2 - actually the size and weight feel great. The OS is a winner though and definitely worth the wait. It sucks that this phone doesn't have 4G though.
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I'm tempted to get this phone, but I just dislike the bulkiness. I wish it was the same screen size in a smaller form factor as I don't know with the Arrive will fit in my pocket even though I really love keyboards.

Holding out for the fabled HTC Mazaa.
 
Need confirmation on this...

If I'm listening to an a song then click on the artist name to bring up my local collection there is an option for marketplace content. If I click that nothing happens. If I scroll over to the left or right and then scroll back it acts like the marketplace is loading with the .... Scrolling thing. Yet nothing you know loads.

Anyone else experience this? Sorry if post sucked from my phone. I can repost later if you guys and gals can't follow!
 
numble said:
The 2% Q4 figure did not include WM6, which this new survey includes. The NPD Q4 figure said WM6+WP7 = 6%. This Nielsen WM6+WP7 figure is 7%.
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What WM6.5 phones are carriers selling these days?
 
Still haven't seen a WP7 phone in the wild yet. Tried one out at a store. Smoother interface than iOS and Android.
 
Copernicus said:
HD2 on t-mobile which is also the htc imagio on verizon

who can forget the lg fathom as well


and....i think thats it lol
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Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2

Advertised as Microsoft's World Phone.
 
venne said:
What WM6.5 phones are carriers selling these days?
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I am simply stating the facts. It's disingenuous to cite the Q1 2011 WM6+WP7 figure and compare it to the Q4 2010 WP7 figure, when you have the Q4 2010 WM6+WP7 figure readily available.
 
Mr. Snrub said:
To be fair, I was just quoting WMPowerUser!
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WMPU is one of the worst blogs I know. Most of the time they don't do any research and they have some crazy headlines, just to get clicks. I know, this sounds like 99% of the other blogs on the net, but believe me, it's much worse there. Besides, the site is really, really ugly.
 
brotkasten said:
WMPU is one of the worst blogs I know. Most of the time they don't do any research and they have some crazy headlines, just to get clicks. I know, this sounds like 99% of the other blogs on the net, but believe me, it's much worse there. Besides, the site is really, really ugly.
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I only read it through my Windows Phone News app. Any recommendations for a reliable and up-to-date source?
 
Just got the april wp7 developers newsletter and it goes over a lot of new additions in the next dev tools release (coming in May).

One thing that leaped out at me "socket support to enable networking communication beyond HTTP;" -- an alternative to networking with web services.. anyone familiar with their approach to socket support? I am most comfortable with System.Data.SqlClient for db communication, it would be nice if their socket support offered something comparably simple for working with DBs.
 
There's been a debate over WP7 in the Blackberry Playbook thread, a bit of fallout while discussing the prospects for RIM and their tablet. One comment created a lot of controversy:

You know the explanation, you just don't like it. Most of the applications that people are buying and/or downloading according to sites that track this information were made by Microsoft. Just as with RIMs hardware bribe, the vast majority of the apps in the store are amateur affairs that are quick ports and "sample" apps. Everyone in the development community knows the game, everyone in the corporate development community knows the game. You can distort the facts for your own egos but the fact remains that today iOS is still the strongest development community, followed by Android and at the moment the 'rest' are RIM, Microsoft, and HP/Palm in that order.
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I'm not asking y'all to bash the poster. I personally don't care so much if Microsoft moneyhatted their way to 15,000 apps or if the number of WP7 developers never catches up to the number of iOS developers. It doesn't bother me either if the majority of the apps are bad. What I use the measure the strength of the developer communities are the quality of the best apps and how many of them are there. So... have the apps been getting better since launch? How does, say, the best WP7 twitter app (Bezz, Rowi?) compare to the best of other platforms?

(and please none of that nonsense about particular platforms aiming for magic)
 
Charred Greyface said:
There's been a debate over WP7 in the Blackberry Playbook thread, a bit of fallout while discussing the prospects for RIM and their tablet. One comment created a lot of controversy:


I'm not asking y'all to bash the poster. I personally don't care so much if Microsoft moneyhatted their way to 15,000 apps or if the number of WP7 developers never catches up to the number of iOS developers. It doesn't bother me either if the majority of the apps are bad. What I use the measure the strength of the developer communities are the quality of the best apps and how many of them are there. So... have the apps been getting better since launch? How does, say, the best WP7 twitter app (Bezz, Rowi?) compare to the best of other platforms?

(and please none of that nonsense about particular platforms aiming for magic)
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WP7 isn't gonna win any app battles until Mango cause it's just missing to many APIs. That being said MS is still a more than solid place for developers to do some coding. It's still one of the strong areas for MS IMO. The framework just isn't in place yet for the platform to do everything that you can on iOS and Android at this point though.
 
Brettison said:
WP7 isn't gonna win any app battles until Mango cause it's just missing to many APIs. That being said MS is still a more than solid place for developers to do some coding. It's still one of the strong areas for MS IMO. The framework just isn't in place yet for the platform to do everything that you can on iOS and Android at this point though.
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I'm not suggesting we compare WP7 apps to iOS or Android apps by counting the features of the platform (WP7 would obviously beat out others because it has Live Tiles :P). I'm asking about the experience of using WP7 apps and if the developers are making the best of the tools they have available...
 
Charred Greyface said:
I'm not suggesting we compare WP7 apps to iOS or Android apps by counting the features of the platform (WP7 would obviously beat out others because it has Live Tiles :P). I'm asking about the experience of using WP7 apps and if the developers are making the best of the tools they have available...
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I'm not talking features I'm talking APIs....
 
Brettison said:
I'm not talking features I'm talking APIs....
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I heard you the first time. So you're saying it's not worth comparing the apps then? Presumably the best WP7 twitter app can't match up to the worst Android twitter app because Microsoft provides fewer APIs than Google? So what APIs do the Twitter apps need?
 
Charred Greyface said:
I heard you the first time. So you're saying it's not worth comparing the apps then? Presumably the best WP7 twitter app can't match up to the worst Android twitter app because Microsoft provides fewer APIs than Google? So what APIs do the Twitter apps need?
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Read through the thread I feel like we have to repeat ourselves alot...

Just a few of the 1,000 + APIs coming in the next update...
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Fuck phoenix. He doesn't know what he's talking about. As I said in that thread, wp7 is already the third best app store, and its only been out since late October. He's making shit up, the app situation on wp7 is one of the things MS should be getting praise for. And it'll get even better once mango comes out. There are two gaps I can think of, both API related: video chat and IM. There are probably others but as someone who has owned both an iPhone and Android phone, I've filled most of my app needs already, which I didn't expect to happen so quickly.
 
Hey guys Im about to get a new phone and im leaning towards the htc arrive but i just had a question about WP7. If Im at the home screen and i slide out the keyboard and start typing what happens, if anything? Will it search my contacts/the web or does it just sit there?
 
Copernicus said:
thats actually the reason for the stagnation with wp7 apps right now
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:( I really thought developers would work around that
CriginsMcJuggs said:
Hey guys Im about to get a new phone and im leaning towards the htc arrive but i just had a question about WP7. If Im at the home screen and i slide out the keyboard and start typing what happens, if anything? Will it search my contacts/the web or does it just sit there?
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it it does nothing irrc. Microsoft didn't really provide much support for physical keyboards (especially landscape physicam keyboards).
 
claviertekky said:
I'm tempted to get this phone, but I just dislike the bulkiness. I wish it was the same screen size in a smaller form factor as I don't know with the Arrive will fit in my pocket even though I really love keyboards.

Holding out for the fabled HTC Mazaa.
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That was my fear as well. Really this is just a transition phone until the next gen ones are here but quite honestly, it's a decent device. It really doesn't feel bulky and has a decent weight to it. Doesn't feel cheaply made. The one thing I preferred from the touch pro 2 though was the slide out mechanism.
 
Is the app situation getting better since launch? Of course it is, but it's because official apps are slowly coming to WP7. Amazon, Kindle, IGN, Rhapsody, ESPN, Flickr, TuneIn Radio, ScoreMobile, Groupon, all of them came after launch and are pretty, pretty good. I'm not saying all 3rd party apps are crap, the marketplace offers few gems like Cocktail Flow, YouTube (by LazyWorm), Weave, viu², BringCast, G-Alarm or others I forgot right now, but let me just say that there's a reason why the WP7 app thread is dead.

Quantity > Quality

It looks a bit better on the game side, though.

CriginsMcJuggs said:
Hey guys Im about to get a new phone and im leaning towards the htc arrive but i just had a question about WP7. If Im at the home screen and i slide out the keyboard and start typing what happens, if anything? Will it search my contacts/the web or does it just sit there?
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Nothing happens. You can't use the keyboard unless you get a field for text input. It's not like WebOS.
 
brotkasten said:
Is the app situation getting better since launch? Of course it is, but it's because official apps are slowly coming to WP7. Amazon, Kindle, IGN, Rhapsody, ESPN, Flickr, TuneIn Radio, ScoreMobile, Groupon, all of them came after launch and are pretty, pretty good. I'm not saying all 3rd party apps are crap, the marketplace offers few gems like Cocktail Flow, YouTube (by LazyWorm), Weave, viu², BringCast, G-Alarm or others I forgot right now, but let me just say that there's a reason why the app thread is dead.

Quantity > Quality

It looks a bit better on the game side, though.
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Well that's great to hear then. And I'm the opposite, I think Quality > Quantity is the way it should go.
 
Charred Greyface said:
Well that's great to hear then. And I'm the opposite, I think Quality > Quantity is the way it should go.
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Of course it's Quality > Quantity, but Microsoft approach right now is quite the opposite. They try to push the number of apps as much as possible for obvious reasons.

You also asked if some WP7 apps are better than the counterparts on iOS or Android and I'd say yes, if they're utilizing the Metro UI properly. IMDB is a great example. Same goes for Flickr or Groupon.

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CriginsMcJuggs said:
If I hit the search button first what happens?
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It opens the Bing app, if you're on the home screen and the search if you're in the marketplace or people hub (contacts). WP7 doesn't have system wide search function.
 
sorry about all these questions but im stuck with this thing for 2 years. If Im in the people section and open the keyboard, does it start filtering my contacts as i type? In other words how does it compare to android/webos in going from the home screen to texting/calling someone?
 
CriginsMcJuggs said:
sorry about all these questions but im stuck with this thing for 2 years. If Im in the people section and open the keyboard, does it start filtering my contacts as i type? In other words how does it compare to android/webos in going from the home screen to texting/calling someone?
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I dont know if this answers your question but when you are in the people tab everyone is in a vertical list.

So its looks like this

PEOPLE
All (search icon) (Add Icon)

#
411 & More

a
Amanda
Asshole
Assdicks

b
butt feces
billy

c
cock monger
..
..
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So you can access by hitting People tile > letter > contact.

or

People tile > Search > use keyboard

or

Phone Tile (brings call history up for a recent contact) > Contact icon on the bottom (brings people tab up)

All are very quick.
 
Charred Greyface said:
Well that's great to hear then. And I'm the opposite, I think Quality > Quantity is the way it should go.
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I totally agree, I would rather have a few quality apps instead of big list of junks that I have to wade through.

That said, the problem with apps really boil down to what I have been complaining (or as some here considered as whining) is the slow speed that Microsoft is moving. NoDo should have come 3 months ago, and mango or at least part of mango such as should be available at 6 months (which is about now) so the platform can close the gap with the other two OS.

Looking at that news about 7% Windows "Platform" marketshare closely, it is actually pretty depressing. I know the blog try to spin it into a good news but it really show the extremely slow growth of Windows Phone 7 and little excitement for the platform among consumers.

I am really hoping with delay of iPhone 5, this will give Microsoft time to bring out mango and Nokia phone before that but somehow I doubt that will happen.
 
I'm sure this has been asked many times at this point, but what's the best Windows 7 Phone to get right now? My HTC Magic is really starting to show it's age and Android is dull. I'm desperately trying to hold on until the new generation of phones are released, but things are creeping along slowly and I don't know how much longer I can tolerate the insane lag on my phone before I toss it out a window. My dad has the LG Optimus 7 and I love playing with the OS, and have been a proud Zune, Zune HD owner for quite some time, so I know what I'm getting into with this.

I'm leaning towards the Samsung Focus or the Omnia 7. Which of the 2 is the better option?
 
brotkasten said:
I hate how everyone is calling Mango "Windows Phone 7.5". That's not the official name.
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hmmmm maybe it is....
According to Microsoft, 'Mango' is Windows Phone 7.5

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During the MIX11 sessions, we came across a slide that referred to the next update of Windows Phone i.e. 'Mango' as version 7.5. At the same time, the presenter played it off as a 'mistake' even though the slides are vetted before presentation.

Now, on the Microsoft Partner Network, we can see a new section trumpeting the new version of Windows Phone which they are clearly referring to as "Windows Phone OS 7.5". (Note: latest builds of the OS pin it at version 7.1, which means MS is still a bit off from having a completed Mango build--this makes sense being six months out).

Why is this interesting? Microsoft has been in a flux over what to call Windows Phone. For the last few years, it was Windows Mobile with the version number after it. Then came the general "Windows Phone" and we were told personally that they were moving away from the version number thing. Then came "Windows Phone 7 Series", later amended by removing "Series".

Now it looks like Microsoft is going down the road of 0.5 upgrades and labeling, calling Windows Phone 7 'Mango' version 7.5, which we guess is less odd than saying 'Mango' all the time. We'll see how this pans out by the fall as we wouldn't be shocked if they change it yet again.

Update: Brandon Watson is sticking with the "no version number has officially been announced" line.
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