ResilientBanana
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Both these consoles are starting to sound like twins. I like the controller bit of info, I hope that pans out.
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Wired: Next Playstation will be call Playstation 5. More details.
ethomaz
Banned
I misunderstood your post... sorry.
RAIDEN1
Member
Backward compatibility to PS4 isn't good enough, it should go through the previous 4 iterations...one of the few good things that Xbox did was there backward compatibility program totally outclassed what was on the PS4.......Republic Commando/Jade Empire/Panzer Dragoon....still great to this day...
Ar¢tos
Member
Like Killzone Shadowfall, Knack 1 & 2, Infamous Second Son, Driveclub, Bound , Little Big Planet 3, Hohokum, Bloodborne Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, Ratchet & Clank, The Last Guardian, The Tomorrow Children, VR Worlds, Astro Bot Rescue Mission, Wipeout Omega Collection, Shadow of the Colussus and the Playlink games, right?
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Out of nowhere again 
Btw the Dualshock 5 details are pretty nice, hopefully the haptic feedback will be a more powerful and refined solution than the HD rumble in the Nintendo Switch, adaptive triggers are really nice as well.
Hardware accelerated ray tracing being confirmed is an other important detail although honestly it was kinda obvious except to the usual console warriors who where hoping it was not the case....there was no reason to be the first to specifically announce something they actually didn't have.
New OS/UI features are interesting, so basically people will have the possibility to directly jump into certain activities or parts of a game from the OS without the traditional "boot game->choose in a series of menus what to do->loading" sequence. Installing just the parts of a game that are of interest (single player/multiplayer, maybe just a particular language in a localization and so on) is also pretty cool.
I guess that that the next update we will get will be a proper presentation in February. Given the months passed between these two first updates the timing seems right.
Btw the Dualshock 5 details are pretty nice, hopefully the haptic feedback will be a more powerful and refined solution than the HD rumble in the Nintendo Switch, adaptive triggers are really nice as well.
Hardware accelerated ray tracing being confirmed is an other important detail although honestly it was kinda obvious except to the usual console warriors who where hoping it was not the case....there was no reason to be the first to specifically announce something they actually didn't have.
New OS/UI features are interesting, so basically people will have the possibility to directly jump into certain activities or parts of a game from the OS without the traditional "boot game->choose in a series of menus what to do->loading" sequence. Installing just the parts of a game that are of interest (single player/multiplayer, maybe just a particular language in a localization and so on) is also pretty cool.
I guess that that the next update we will get will be a proper presentation in February. Given the months passed between these two first updates the timing seems right.
Bryank75
Banned
We have to wait on Xbox to say what they have but it seems like PS5 has a lot of new features like 3d sound and the haptics, broader upgrades than just graphics and processor.
The important thing is the games that make the most of the hardware though and I trust PS more in that regard.
But you know where I am coming from, I'm not claiming to be unbiased.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Out of nowhere again
Btw the Dualshock 5 details are pretty nice, hopefully the haptic feedback will be a more powerful and refined solution than the HD rumble in the Nintendo Switch, adaptive triggers are really nice as well.
Hardware accelerated ray tracing being confirmed is an other important detail although honestly it was kinda obvious except to the usual console warriors who where hoping it was not the case....there was no reason to be the first to specifically announce something they actually didn't have.
New OS/UI features are interesting, so basically people will have the possibility to directly jump into certain activities or parts of a game from the OS without the traditional "boot game->choose in a series of menus what to do->loading" sequence. Installing just the parts of a game that are of interest (single player/multiplayer, maybe just a particular language in a localization and so on) is also pretty cool.
I guess that that the next update we will get will be a proper presentation in February. Given the months passed between these two first updates the timing seems right.
The only thing the controller really needs is a better battery.
sendit
Member
It goes deeper than this... if they were to include RT cores they would not have space for all the other shader cores... they are screwed either way. If they only had magic balance tech like the others do
Seriously, you are twisting wording that has been standard in tech for years: PS5 will have dedicated HW resources for RT, not sure what else they can say to avoid this concern “posting”... BTW, like for Scarlett and RTX, dedicated RT resources / cores have little use outside of RT the more they are optimised for a specific RT implementation.
Sony needs a marketing video like Microsoft to solidify all the features. Humans in nature are visual learners. Wired just has words which is a weak way to present technology.
TLZ
Banned
You're fighting windmills.
They stated there IS a better battery and it is a reason why it's heavier than the DS4.
Negotiator
Member
For people who argue that RT cores are a waste of silicon, what's your opinion about VCE/UVD/TMUs/ROPs? Aren't those fixed-function circuitry as well?
bitbydeath
Member
Next up on the obvious proving wrong list is 8K. Sony wouldn’t state it were possible graphically and later champion it as a highlight if it weren’t possible.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Negotiator
Member
Most people don't read books these days. Attention spans have taken a nosedive.It is almost as if we never read books.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's true. I read studies that the average attention span is less than that of a goldfish.
ethomaz
Banned
It is part of HDMI 2.1 specification.Next up on the obvious proving wrong list is 8K. Sony wouldn’t state it were possible graphically and later champion it as a highlight if it weren’t possible.
It will have 8k games? I don't know maybe only 8k os to play video only or maybe Chess is made in 8k (It is already 4k in Pro).
bitbydeath
Member
It was stated 8K graphics.
The word ‘graphics’ I would associate with games. How they reach it wasn’t stipulated though, I suspect checkerboarding to be in the mix as opposed to native. With resolution that high I’d imagine it’d be even harder to tell the difference.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Didn't MS remove this later from the video after the internet went nuts?
Bryank75
Banned
Apparently the LG C9 looks way better than Samsungs 8K minitor that costs 10K.... was watching reviews. So 8K is probably not really worth it. But I could be wrong, it might just be the models of TV.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
The mass market buys games off visuals, not performance. So nope.
Bathtub Fart
Banned
The name is shocking. Wtf are they thinking?!
Mass Shift
Member
Didn't MS remove this later from the video after the internet went nuts?
Nope it's still there. Even got Richard Leadbetter to acknowledge it when he and Chris Tector (the guy who made the pixel remark) sat down and spoke about it during performance testing of the hardware.
Chis Tector Highest Quality Pixels
Mass Shift
Member
You aren't joking about that. This really is a dog tail chasing era in terms of people who click on headlines and go right to posting before they even read an article or even discover it's truly news worthy.
ResilientBanana
Member
I think the Xbox was rumored to Have similar features, but I agree, Sony is no slouch when it comes to their library. I was pretty hardcore Xbox for a while until I bought a PlayStation, now I’m pretty open to whatever because sometimes you simply don’t know what you could be missing.
Zannegan
Member
Oh absolutely, but isn't that also haptic feedback? Sorry, meant it as a catch-all for all the things they're doing with touch feedback.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
sendit
Member
While backwards compatibility is nice. There are too many games coming out to harp on the past.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
This is the only upgrade the PS4 really needs!
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
Sounds like you have very high standards. Uncharted 4, Spider-man, Bloodborne, Ratchet and Clank, Judgment, GOW, nothing impressed you?
KiNeMz
Banned
And dead zone config.
spartan30gr
Member
Very good news for the type c input on the new controller.More faster charging is a welcome good feature
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spartan30gr
Member
Negotiator
Member
Source?
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I'd rather it was more expensive so I'd know for sure it's going to be beastly. Unless they're just taking a big loss on consoles to be made up through game sales and PS+ subs.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
As of right now NVMe drives are cheaper than their m.2 SATA III counterparts, obviously this is not true for the top of the line PCI e 4.0 end NVMe, they come at a pretty hefty premium.
Who works at Polyphony Digital? Babies?
An entire generation of babies. Maybe you and them should go out every once in a while, and maybe do some yard work?
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
It's interesting to know more about the controller and a confirmation on HW RT, but it just leaves u wanting more, quite the tease this cerny chappy.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
I can't count the times I upgraded my PC just for the one game that struggled.
synchronicity
Member
Sony is missing a great naming opportunity here. It's so obvious.
I present the PS4U.
(Didn't see the joke posted - sorry if I missed it.)
I present the PS4U.
(Didn't see the joke posted - sorry if I missed it.)
sendit
Member
PCI-Express 4.0 NVMe SSD Performance on Ryzen 3000 & X570
AMD's new Ryzens are the first desktop processors to support PCI-Express 4.0, which doubles transfer rates over PCIe 3.0. We test real-life performance gains using the 2 TB Gigabyte Aorus Gen4 M.2 NVMe SSD, which reaches over 5 GB/s in sequential speeds.
Microsoft and Sony are claiming to reduce load times significantly. If so, they're doing something different than your off the shelf computer part.
TLZ
Banned
RIP.This is exciting news, I wish GamerNyc78 and TheLastWord were here with us today to celebrate this glorious news
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