bryanee
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But its got a pretty big resolution boost.
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Witcher 3 PS4 patch 1.50 adds Pro support out now
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But its got a pretty big resolution boost.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Yeah I can agree with that. There are parts that look great and others not so much. Imagine if they had brought the visuals those early screenshots showed, oh my. But that was never going to happen.
Doesn't Blood and Wine still look damn good though? Never played it but the footage looked great.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Thanks. Among other things ... looking at the second set of screens, you can see the thin reeds/branches in the middle are completely smoothed out on the 1.50 shots while they look like a jagged mess on the 1.30 one's.
edit: and the comparison you edited in to the post.
Nice.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Very nice, especially the last set of screens - clearly shows supersampling.
But hdr is a much more effective upgrade imo. Given the choice, Id rather they leave the resolution and just do that.
JigglesBunny
Banned
- 60FPS wasn't realistic here and won't happen on the X1X either.
- Native 4K wasn't all that realistic either given the scope of the game but it might be possible on the X.
- No HDR is disappointing but the game naturally has fantastic art with vibrant colors so it's fine.
I don't know when we all agreed that 60FPS, 4K on a game like The Witcher 3 was possible and expected but we need to walk down our expectations.
- Native 4K wasn't all that realistic either given the scope of the game but it might be possible on the X.
- No HDR is disappointing but the game naturally has fantastic art with vibrant colors so it's fine.
I don't know when we all agreed that 60FPS, 4K on a game like The Witcher 3 was possible and expected but we need to walk down our expectations.
HDR may be great, but a resolution increase benefits so many more people.
Thx for these. The game looks awesome after this update. Super happy to be a 1080p PRO owner right now!
bryanee
Member
Oh yeah I love HDR and want it in every game.
So do people asking for HDR / being disappointed that CDPR didn't implement it into TW3 even know what goes into implementing that into the already finished and few year old game?
I sure hell don't so any info how easy or hard process it's would be appreciated. I have seen comments here and there that you need basically design your engine and content pipeline from ground up for HDR support.
I sure hell don't so any info how easy or hard process it's would be appreciated. I have seen comments here and there that you need basically design your engine and content pipeline from ground up for HDR support.
Dictator93
Member
IIRC, like CA, TW3 scales all post processing with resolution, so if they did not mess with AO darkening and radius for the default SSAO, it could look "lessened" at a higher res.
I do not remember if that applies to HBAO+ though, probably. I remember Jim2Point complaining about it because it makes Ansel / Ancel a bit useless on PC unless you want little to no post processing (and AO is pretty necessary post processing IMO).
Alpha Phoenix
Member
I think BaW does look generally better than the rest of the game, but not to an obvious extent.
I finished the main game on my PC at release even though I have a GTX1080 I bought GOTY edition for PS4 this summer just because I can't stop using debug menu on pc version. -_-
I left Blood and Wine just when I was at this point of the game because of the patch news.
I'm using a 1440p monitor which obviously downsamples to 1080p.I can confirm that the difference is huge non-patch version's biggest issue for me was the lack of AF and AA.Now the IQ looks really clean.
I also bought LG 27UD67-W I'm sure it'll look stunning on 4K.
I left Blood and Wine just when I was at this point of the game because of the patch news.
I'm using a 1440p monitor which obviously downsamples to 1080p.I can confirm that the difference is huge non-patch version's biggest issue for me was the lack of AF and AA.Now the IQ looks really clean.
I also bought LG 27UD67-W I'm sure it'll look stunning on 4K.
Md Ray
Member
Resolution: 1920x1080 (4K via cb or geo on Pro)
Nvidia HairWorks: Off
Number of Background Characters: Low
Shadow Quality: Medium
Terrain Quality: Medium
Water Quality: High
Grass Density: Medium
Texture Quality:
Foliage Visibility Range: High
Detail Level: Medium
Ambient Occlusion: SSAO
All post-process effects on, except vignetting
People probably thought Microsoft paid CDPR to hold it back until the X1X version was ready.
Anyways, I just have a PS4 no Pro, so I won't be getting this update
, enjoy guys!Dictator93
Member
Texture quality on PS4 is not ultra, as that adds in mip LOD bias that is much "sharper" than default PS4. It would be somewhere inbetween medium and high.
Karspankey
Banned
Guys, I can confirm that we are getting 4K on the edges!
Thanks to Tinúviel and his perfect screenshots, I was able to pixel count and get a definite, beautiful, 2160p pixel count!
Here is the image if you want to count it yourself
My line is 30 pixels up
The math, for people unaware looks like this:
Draw 30 pixels up from a pixel "staircase"
Skip a pixel up and across like I did in the photo
Continue drawing a line sideways, until you hit another staircase
Count each staircase between the sections you marked
In our case, it happens to be 30 staircases
Now, you divide the staircases you counted from the amount of pixels you drew upwards at the start so:
30/30= 1
then you take that number and multiply it by the resolution of the photo
1 x 2160= 2160
Thanks to Tinúviel and his perfect screenshots, I was able to pixel count and get a definite, beautiful, 2160p pixel count!
Here is the image if you want to count it yourself
My line is 30 pixels up
The math, for people unaware looks like this:
Draw 30 pixels up from a pixel "staircase"
Skip a pixel up and across like I did in the photo
Continue drawing a line sideways, until you hit another staircase
Count each staircase between the sections you marked
In our case, it happens to be 30 staircases
Now, you divide the staircases you counted from the amount of pixels you drew upwards at the start so:
30/30= 1
then you take that number and multiply it by the resolution of the photo
1 x 2160= 2160
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Even before the boost mode, the GoTY version (and base with all the patches) was pretty stable. Some Bog area fights would have small drops but the game was a huge improvement over launch by last year.
With this Pro patch, CDPR have noted there's a "slight boost to performance" so it's only gonna be better.
http://wccftech.com/the-witcher-3-ps4-pro/
Md Ray
Member
I thought High and Ultra textures were same... From GeForce guide:
"On Low, 1024x1024 textures are enabled, though there's also a double dose of Texture, Detail Texture and Atlas Texture downscaling, reducing VRAM usage at the expense of texture detail and clarity. Switching to Medium increases texture detail to 2048x2048, and reduces the downscaling to 1x, marginally improving clarity. On High, downscaling is dropped entirely, revealing max quality 2048x2048 textures, greatly improving image quality.
On Ultra, there are no further improvements to clarity or detail, merely an increase in the memory budget, allowing more textures to be stored in memory at any given time. Running around on foot this makes little difference, but when galloping on horseback it minimizes the chance of encountering the unsightly streaming-in of high-quality textures."
EDIT: You're right, there's a difference between High and Ultra. Just saw the "Update" below.
Dictator93
Member
High and Ultra textures are definitely the same in terms of resolution when the camera is smack-dab right in front of the texture, but the settings for textures also ties in with other variables, namely mipmap bias. From that same NV Guide:
So on ultra (or even high), textures further into the distance use a lower mip, and thus are higher in apparent resolution. This can of course have problems though and cause extra aliasing if the pixel density is much smaller than texel density, and if the texture has lots of specularity / is an alpha texture with holes that end up being smaller than pixel in size.
GameAddict411
Member
The boost mode didn't unlock the full GPU performance in games that didn't support the pro. So it basically ran 18 GCN cored at 911 MHz instead of the 800 MHz the original PS4 could achieve. The other half of the GPU is still deactivated for stability purposes. The CPU does run at full speed though.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Performance on PS4 had actually been mostly resolved pre-Pro thanks to patches.
So basically textures are max resolution up close medium but uses mip maps for textures at a distance, whereas high gets rid of mipmapping and it's max resolution all the time and on Ultra the game stores additional texture data in order to avoid streaming transitions ?
Karspankey
Banned
One last pixel-count to further show that it is 2160p on the edges (thanks to Omegabalmung9 for the pic)
Source pic:
Amazing work by CDPR!
Source pic:
Amazing work by CDPR!
Rellik
Member
If you didn't know already, you can one shot them with your crossbow.
It only changes the bias. Getting rid of mip-mapping would result in shimmering everywhere except close to the camera.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Holy shit, it got bumped to 4K!? Buying it right now.One last pixel-count to further show that it is 2160p on the edges (thanks to Omegabalmung9 for the pic)
Source pic:
Amazing work by CDPR!
I'd like to know this as I tried the PC version at 4k with medium settings on a gtx 1060 6gb. Looked great and ran fine....in the starting area. I'm going to see what it looks like on the Pro now with this patch.
ScaryShark
Banned
Going to buy GOTY edition because it has a separate trophy list and because of this patch. Awesome.
kristianity77
Member
Ita not just me but there are definite performance drops now where there wasn't before. On boost mode it was pretty much a 30fps lock. Whilst it looks much better now it doesn't hold its frame rate nearly as much I find.
funkystudent
Member
HDR power requirement would be minimal and I think PS4 Pro might even have hardware dedicated to it but its probably much harder to add then simply upping the resolution and telling the game its OK to use all the extra horsepower now. Someone would have to go back and basically retweak the lighting for the entire game.
The trees in the distance really look terrible. :/
Md Ray
Member
Garrett Hawke
Member
The trees in the background 😂😂😂
PcPlasticFuzz
Member
Seems sub 30fps in places to me now? Is it just me?
kristianity77
Member
It's not just you. It does now drop more from 30fps. This didn't happen in boost mode.
WheelHoss1
Member
Great work. But how is this possible and Dragon's Dogma can't hit 4K? Ouch
funkystudent
Member
Ah was wondering if that would happen.
Wouldn't be the first time CDPR promised better performance but actually made things worse patching this game.
psychotron
Member
Was afraid of this. Need DF.
PcPlasticFuzz
Member
Thanks thought it was me being over sensitive. Can't ever prioritise image quality over stable frame rate for me so this patch isn't good for me.