-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Witcher 3 PS4 patch 1.50 adds Pro support out now
- Thread starter LordOfLore
- Start date
Md Ray
Member
Yep, looks like this resolution boost is maxing out the Pro's GPU beyond 100% now, which otherwise didn't when running the game in boost mode without the patch.
Equanimity
Member
Context is everything.
CrichtonKicks
Member
It is more gpu bound- unless you are in Novigrad. Novigrad is a huge CPU hog. People just didn't realize it on initial release because most don't go to Novigrad until really far into the game so most benchmarks don't show it.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Holy fuck people. You moan and moan for Pro 4k support then when they give you it (a full month before people expected it no less) people are crying about a frame or two performance blip.
I for one am grateful to the developers for their hard work. Also thank you to Phil Spencer, because without him pushing for an Xbox X patch, we wouldnt have a Pro patch 👊
I for one am grateful to the developers for their hard work. Also thank you to Phil Spencer, because without him pushing for an Xbox X patch, we wouldnt have a Pro patch 👊
What you talking bout Willis
I thought the same thing... but in a way, they are correct. What happens when the GPU is maxxed out and the game wants more GPU than what is available (it wants more than 100%)... you get frame drops.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In case this was still a question, veteran users at beyond3d are confirming Witcher 3 is rendering at native 4K (3840x2160) on both vertical and horizontal access. No mention of dynamic res. Corroborating GAF user Karspankey's pixel count earlier.
Also, one user commented that CA has possibly been taken out entirely. Which is good.
Source
Also, one user commented that CA has possibly been taken out entirely. Which is good.
Source
Hey now-
I didn't ask for this. I didn't want it. Now the game makes my console sound like a jet engine and my frame rate is worse.
I just want the game to work like it did before.
This isn't the first time that a developer has done this to a perfectly functioning game.
They REALLY need to give people the option to turn off 4k mode if they don't want it.
NullPointer
Member
That works because I only mean it in the context of the GIF.
Damn, I guess I'll just run this unpatched for the time being. Even if the hit to frame rate is only 1-2fps, if it's causing a fairly consistent stuttering, that's way more of a big deal to me than supersampling on my 1080p TV.
It's things like this that really make me wish Sony (and I guess MS too? I'm not really sure if they do or not.) let you roll back patches, though I guess that wouldn't work since most games update save files now once you patch and that would ruin your save data to then roll back the patch. At the very least give the option to disable updates on a per game basis. I get why they don't, but it really sucks in cases like this.
It's things like this that really make me wish Sony (and I guess MS too? I'm not really sure if they do or not.) let you roll back patches, though I guess that wouldn't work since most games update save files now once you patch and that would ruin your save data to then roll back the patch. At the very least give the option to disable updates on a per game basis. I get why they don't, but it really sucks in cases like this.
kristianity77
Member
They dont need to give the option to roll back patches. They just need to give choice to the user about where they want priorities to lie. 1080p and a total lock on 30FPS or 4K with minor dips. Its not really a lot to ask or expect in this day and age.
Md Ray
Member
This is what I was talking about.
Impressive.
Exactly.
This was a big problem with Mass Effect Andromeda when it came out. I'm using a Pro at 1080p, and the game ran much worse than it did on a regular PS4. All I wanted to do was disable the Pro "enhancements" so I could get a stable frame rate.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Only increased resolution? That's it? No increased draw distances, LOD, shadows or other things? No 1080p Enriched mode like in ROTTR?
I expacted more tbh.
I expacted more tbh.
Which is exactly why I've been saying from day 1 that Sony should have a systemwide option that forces the Pro to play the game like a baseline PS4 but with boost option. So tired of SUB-30 games for the sake of resolution.
WastedDeer
Banned
Probably best to get an X if you are after that in every game. Surprised the pro can do 4K native on this game. Nice job CDPR!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, was expecting 1440p at most. Plenty of companies can't get their last-gen remasters to 4K and we have CDPR bringing a complex game like TW3 to native 4K. Good stuff.
Impressive as hell. And I was prepared to be happy with 1800p.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Native 4k? What magic is this?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Native 4K????? Where? Where?
MaximusPayne
Member
Ok DF, where are you?
Karspankey
Banned
PPaging John/Dark!
socksfelloff
Member
These are the guys who got witcher 2 running on 360! They have naughty dog levels of optimization imo.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Wow. If this is true Native 4K then CDProjekt made an astounding job. I really wish they would also offer a maxed out 1080p (without NVidia Gameworks) with the likes ROTTR, For Honor and others. I am sure CDProjekt are really capable of doing it.
that's not possible as all devs have complete control to their software, and "forcing" another option would cause problems the devs cant account for
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
If it's confirmed the native 4k patch introduces frame drops, then the discussion turns to whether they should have opted for a checkeboard solution.
Which of course would lead to people bitching that it should have been native 4k and CDPR is incompetent/lazy/MS conspiracy plot.
Which of course would lead to people bitching that it should have been native 4k and CDPR is incompetent/lazy/MS conspiracy plot.
The simple solution I could think of (in case native 4k introduced performance issues) is to just offer a toggle for whether or not you want to enable pro support.
MaximusPayne
Member
I don't think people really expected it to be 4k to be honest. I think everyone would be happy with 1440p and more extras.
cheezcake
Member
Maybe I just don't understand how CB works but isn't the point that you're still getting a full pixel count it's just rendered in an interlaced fashion?
So you would have to take two subsequent frames and see if exactly half the pixels stay the same to actually tell if its native 4k or CB.
So you would have to take two subsequent frames and see if exactly half the pixels stay the same to actually tell if its native 4k or CB.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
you should be able to do that by selecting 1080p output on your PS4. This worked for The Last Guardian.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
NXGamer has a video up on the patch.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
NXGamer video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIckJf6VrI
- Performance is pretty much the same. Still gets some very minor dips under 30 FPS but nothing notable.
- Native 4K (NXGamer thinks there *might* be some dynamic scaling)
- Signs of Checker Board Rendering. Likely half width 1920 and full height 2160. But it could also be another method being employed.
- Regardless, the difference is stark compared to 1080p.
Seems like NXGamer can't nail down exactly if it's native or CB (great either way) and confirms the performance is still about the same as before. Based on the visual graph during the video, it seems to stay in the 29.8~ FPS range during combat and city traversal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIckJf6VrI
- Performance is pretty much the same. Still gets some very minor dips under 30 FPS but nothing notable.
- Native 4K (NXGamer thinks there *might* be some dynamic scaling)
- Signs of Checker Board Rendering. Likely half width 1920 and full height 2160. But it could also be another method being employed.
- Regardless, the difference is stark compared to 1080p.
Seems like NXGamer can't nail down exactly if it's native or CB (great either way) and confirms the performance is still about the same as before. Based on the visual graph during the video, it seems to stay in the 29.8~ FPS range during combat and city traversal.
Glad I'll get to play the majority of the game like this now. I waited on the game for so long for some reason. First it was because i wanted to play the game on an SSD and then it was because of this incoming patch. I have played plenty of the game, I just got too absorbed in sidequests that I got practically nowhere in the actual story. I actually played and beat The Witcher 2 on the 360 in anticipation for W3 funnily enough.
I really enjoyed the graphical enhancements in Shadow of Mordor for 1080p TVs. I'm sure the patch isn't going to be perfect. Maybe they'll add in options for those bothered by a slight framerate difference. Personally, I really enjoyed supersampling in Mordor and was peeved when they took it out of The Last of Us. I'll take an occasional dip if the game looks a lot better.
I really enjoyed the graphical enhancements in Shadow of Mordor for 1080p TVs. I'm sure the patch isn't going to be perfect. Maybe they'll add in options for those bothered by a slight framerate difference. Personally, I really enjoyed supersampling in Mordor and was peeved when they took it out of The Last of Us. I'll take an occasional dip if the game looks a lot better.
NullPointer
Member
Looks great.
I ended up LTTP with Witcher 3 but had the benefit of multiple patches and UI changes by then, and had zero performance issues throughout.
Was holding back on playing through all the DLC until this hit, so looks like that world is going to suck me back in for a while again. Great stuff and kudos to NXGamer for getting a video up so quickly.
Was only expecting 1440p in all honesty so this is really good news !
Link to NXGamer video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIckJf6VrI
He has the game footrage running with a framerate counter in the upper right corner.
Basically ... locked at 30. Rare dips to 29, the lowest the average framerate gets to is 29.76. He also does a run through Novigrad.
Really solid performance, some of you people had me worried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIckJf6VrI
He has the game footrage running with a framerate counter in the upper right corner.
Basically ... locked at 30. Rare dips to 29, the lowest the average framerate gets to is 29.76. He also does a run through Novigrad.
Really solid performance, some of you people had me worried.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
4k, locked 30fps, good lord.
Not locked...