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Wkd BO 12•02-04•16 - Hana hou for Moana, no more da kine competition

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tomatometer:
97% Moana
75% Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them
93% Arrival
61% Allied
91% Doctor Strange
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86% Jackie

metacritic:
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‘Moana’ Tops Slow Post-Thanksgiving Weekend With $28.4 Million

“Moana” sailed to the top of the domestic box office for the second consecutive weekend. The Disney animated adventure picked up $28.4 million to push its stateside haul to $119.9 million.

Not that “Moana” faced much in the way of competition. The weekend after Thanksgiving tends to be a slow one for the movie business and this year’s edition was in keeping with that tradition. The only major new release, “Incarnate,” failed to sell many tickets, earning $2.6 million and falling short of its expected $4 million to $5 million opening.

“Incarnate”centers on a scientist (Aaron Eckhart) who enters the mind of an 11-year old boy to rid him of an evil spirit. The horror film is the latest offering from BH Tilt, which is trying to contain distribution costs by orchestrating more targeted marketing campaigns for certain theatrical releases. “Incarnate” used digital advertising to try to better reach younger, horror fans, and debuted on 1,700 screens, substantially fewer theaters than most studio movies unfurl across. It cost $5 million to produce.

“Believe,” a faith-based drama about a Christmas pageant, grossed a quiet $602,519 from 639 locations. Freestyle Releasing backed the film.

One bright spot was the limited release debut of Fox Searchlight’s “Jackie.” The look at First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy’s efforts to put on a funeral for Jack Kennedy that honored her husband and cemented the president’s legacy, has earned raves for Natalie Portman’s lead performance and Oscar buzz. It also did strong business in five theaters, picking up $275,000 for a $55,000 per-screen average.

“Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them,” the Harry Potter spin-off from Warner Bros., took second place, earning $18.5 million to push its domestic gross to $183.5 million.

Paramount’s “Arrival” came in third, earning $7.3 million. The science fiction thriller has made $73.1 million. Coming in fourth, Paramount’s “Allied” added $7 million to its $28.9 million gross. Marvel’s “Doctor Strange” rounded out the top five, picking up $6.5 million to bring its stateside bounty to $215.3 million.

Among Oscar contenders, Amazon Studios and Roadside’s “Manchester by the Sea” expanded nicely, picking up $2.4 million after moving from 48 to 156 screens. The acclaimed drama about a grieving janitor has made $4.4 million.

A24’s “Moonlight” continued to impress. The coming-of-age story made $915,750, pushing its gross to $9.9 million.

The domestic box office continues to outpace last year’s revenues, with 2016 up roughly 4% over 2015. However, the weekend totals were off 3% from the same period last year, when the horror comedy “Krampus” debuted to a strong $16.3 million.

The movie business continues to hold its collective breath for the opening of “Rogue One: A Star Wars” story on Dec. 16, which is expected to dominate ticket sales for the rest of the year.

“This was the drama free weekend,” said Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst at ComScore. “It’s the calm after the storm and the calm before the storm.”


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demosthenes

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Arrival with a good 4th week, awesome. Hope the legs on moana are great. Movie was wonderful.
 

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I really hope I get a chance to see Arrival before it's out of theaters. That and I nee to see Fantastic Beast again.
 

vinnygambini

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Arrival has been a sleeper hit for Paramount - for $20M, they must be ecstatic given their list of under-performers this year.

So happy for Fantastic Beasts too, crossed the $600M mark worldwide.
 
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Great to see Moana (AKA the best movie of the year) continue to do really well. When all is said and done I think it'll make about 850 million.

I won't be surprised if it drags itself to 1 billion.
 

GhaleonEB

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Yeah, it's really nice to see those holds on Arrival. It's going to bump along through the end of the year. Great film, glad it found its audience.
 

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Moonlight is doing really well, considering we haven't even gotten to the real heat of awards season yet.
 

DJChuy

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Same budget as Suicide Squad. Everyone was on its ass for being such a failure in the start, and for not breaking even, needing 800m+ to do so and more yadda yadda. Don't see those dudes here now.

Doctor Strange had a lot of strong competition though; Suicide Squad, on the other hand, didn't have much. Sausage Party was probably its strongest competitor it had for weeks.
 

kswiston

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He is right, assuming it's actually the same budget because considering the cast SS had you expect it to cost more that DS.

Suicide Squad's reported budget was a bit higher, and the marketing budget was no doubt higher as well. That said, the "$800M to break even!" Crowd never had any idea what they were talking about as many said at the time.
 

gamz

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Doctor Strange had a lot of strong competition though; Suicide Squad, on the other hand, didn't have much. Sausage Party was probably its strongest competitor it had for weeks.

But Strange has China, SS didn't.

That alone added 107M to it's total take already.
 

vinnygambini

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Your name will be the highest grossing anime film of all time worldwide. Spirited Away had a good run.

Who could have imagined? Dethroning Miyazaki. What an achievement.

 

Zackat

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Arrival is my favorite movie I've seen this year. Hope it keeps on going for a while.
 

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Same budget as Suicide Squad. Everyone was on its ass for being such a failure in the start, and for not breaking even, needing 800m+ to do so and more yadda yadda. Don't see those dudes here now.

I don't think anyone expected $300m for Strange on here.
 

Schlorgan

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Box Office Mojo mentions SS as having $175 million production budget, while Strange is $165. Don't know about marketing.
I can see the marketing for SS pushing it to $250m-$300m, but as others have stated Strange had more competition and did not seem to spend as much on marketing.

Either way, WB and Disney are probably ecstatic at the money those movies brought in.
 

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Same budget as Suicide Squad. Everyone was on its ass for being such a failure in the start, and for not breaking even, needing 800m+ to do so and more yadda yadda. Don't see those dudes here now.

The movie had a lot higher expectations. I mean it has Joker and Harley Quinn in it. Dr Strange was a nobody before his movie. But yeah, SS did very well for itself despite being a shitty movie.
 

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As a true Hawaiian, this OT offends me dearly!

Same budget as Suicide Squad. Everyone was on its ass for being such a failure in the start, and for not breaking even, needing 800m+ to do so and more yadda yadda. Don't see those dudes here now.

I distracted them with Marvel vs Capcom - Infinite
 
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Could Rogue One do better in China than TFA did?

Reason I ask is because SW was never popular or even released in China until the past few years. Disney has been pushing it pretty hard over there and, compared to Marvel's latest big releases, TFA didn't really do that well in China. Also Donnie Yen/Jiang Wen.
 

BronsonLee

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Could Rogue One do better in China than TFA did?

Reason I ask is because SW was never popular or even released in China until the past few years. Disney has been pushing it pretty hard over there and, compared to Marvel's latest big releases, TFA didn't really do that well in China. Also Donnie Yen/Jiang Wen.

I'd be surprised if it didn't
 

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Using rough 55% domestic, 40% international, 25% China studio cuts, we can get a rough idea of how much each superhero film brought in at the box office this year. For a blockbuster film 55% domestic is probably slightly conservative. The international take varies, depending on the market breakdown. It's better to earn $100M in the UK than it is in South Korea, but I think most films fall within a couple percent of 40%. China's studio cut actually is a flat 25% for profit sharing films.

Anyhow, using that 55%/40%/25% rule, you get the following:

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Title			DOM Gross	INT Gross	CHI Gross	Studio Take	Reported Prod Budget
Deadpool		$363M (200)	$420M (168)	$0		$368M		$58M
Batman v Superman	$330M (182)	$447M (179)	$96M (24)	$385M		$250M
Civil War		$408M (224)	$555M (222)	$190M (48)	$494M		$250M
X-Men: Apocalypse	$155M (85)	$268M (107)	$121M (30)	$222M		$178M
Suicide Squad		$325M (179)	$421M (168)	$0		$347M		$175M
Doctor Strange*		$230M (127)	$330M (132)	$110M (28)	$287M		$165M

*Estimated final totals for Doctor Strange (on the conservative side).

Marketing budgets are rarely ever disclosed, but Batman v Superman's estimated marketing budget was quoted at $160M from several industry websites. The others are probably similar or lower depending on the scope of the film.

EDIT: Just based on profit (or lack thereof) at the box office, the films probably fall out in this order:

Deadpool > Civil War >> Suicide Squad > Doctor Strange = Batman v Superman >> X-Men Apocalypse

Deadpool and Civil War easily made money at the theatre. Suicide Squad hovered around breakeven. I have no real idea how much marketing was for Doctor Strange vs BvS, but both films likely covered all of their production and most of their marketing (with the rest easily made up on merch, product placement, and home media). I guess it's plausible that the equal sign should be between SS and Doc Strange, if marketing on the latter was $125M or less. Either way, all three of those were profitable or close to profitable in theatres, and will make good money on ancillary streams.

X-Men Apocalypse had a lot more to make up, Especially if marketing exceeded $100M.

EDIT 2: This assumes no one is majorly lying with those reported budgets, which sometimes happens.
 

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Finally saw Hacksaw Ridge just now. Really liked it. Its been said ad nauseam but Gibson still knows how to direct violence.

Having a mug of beer then going to see Allied.
 

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Using rough 55% domestic, 40% international, 25% China studio cuts, we can get a rough idea of how much each superhero film brought in at the box office this year. For a blockbuster film 55% domestic is probably slightly conservative. The international take varies, depending on the market breakdown. It's better to earn $100M in the UK than it is in South Korea, but I think most films fall within a couple percent of 40%. China's studio cut actually is a flat 25% for profit sharing films.

Anyhow, using that 55%/40%/25% rule, you get the following:

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Title			DOM Gross	INT Gross	CHI Gross	Studio Take	Reported Prod Budget
Deadpool		$363M (200)	$420M (168)	$0		$368M		$58M
Batman v Superman	$330M (182)	$447M (179)	$96M (24)	$385M		$250M
Civil War		$408M (224)	$555M (222)	$190M (48)	$494M		$250M
X-Men: Apocalypse	$155M (85)	$268M (107)	$121M (30)	$222M		$178M
Suicide Squad		$325M (179)	$421M (168)	$0		$347M		$175M
Doctor Strange*		$230M (127)	$330M (132)	$110M (28)	$287M		$165M

*Estimated final totals for Doctor Strange (on the conservative side).

Marketing budgets are rarely ever disclosed, but Batman v Superman's estimated marketing budget was quoted at $160M from several industry websites. The others are probably similar or lower depending on the scope of the film.

EDIT: Just based on profit (or lack thereof) at the box office, the films probably fall out in this order:

Deadpool > Civil War >> Suicide Squad > Doctor Strange = Batman v Superman >> X-Men Apocalypse

Deadpool and Civil War easily made money at the theatre. Suicide Squad hovered around breakeven. I have no real idea how much marketing was for Doctor Strange vs BvS, but both films likely covered all of their production and most of their marketing (with the rest easily made up on merch, product placement, and home media). I guess it's plausible that the equal sign should be between SS and Doc Strange, if marketing on the latter was $125M or less. Either way, all three of those were profitable or close to profitable in theatres, and will make good money on ancillary streams.

X-Men Apocalypse had a lot more to make up, Especially if marketing exceeded $100M.

EDIT 2: This assumes no one is majorly lying with those reported budgets, which sometimes happens.

Posts like these are what makes you the best dude!
 
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Great chart. I'm not sure which one made more money at the movie theater, especially because Marvel eats 5% of the gross from Deadpool.

We don't know budgets, over the tops, participation, etc, so it's hard to guess. But a fair estimate would be to say that it is likely XMen lost money during its theater run whereas the other three either made a little, lost a little, or broke even. CW and Deadpool made money before merchandise and DVD/VOD/BluRay distribution.
 
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