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Working PC version of Panzer Dragoon Saga exists!
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Is that certain or does Gametap have or had the code? Also, I miss Turner Gametap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameTap#History
Therefore this Joystiq article from May 14th 2009 was possibly written in the transition period, and after that abandoned(?).
brain_stew
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The versions of PD and PDZ on the service were great, they even ran in high resolution (800x600 iirc), which is very rare for Saturn emulation.
Shadow Hog
Member
Reminds me of how they announced they'd release NiGHTS on the service.
And then never did.
Ever.
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Then again, I own a perfectly functional Saturn copy of both that and this (and Jesus did PDS cost a pretty penny), so I'm set... but it'd have been nice to have an easy, cheap and legal route to point people toward if they wanted to try these games out.
And yeah, there was Dreamcast emulation too. I recall trying to run Chu Chu Rocket, but for some reason, it was kind of in slow-motion, which can't be right. Also, when Capcpom put Third Strike on the service, it was the DC version they used. Then all the Sega library vanished...
And then never did.
Ever.
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Then again, I own a perfectly functional Saturn copy of both that and this (and Jesus did PDS cost a pretty penny), so I'm set... but it'd have been nice to have an easy, cheap and legal route to point people toward if they wanted to try these games out.
And yeah, there was Dreamcast emulation too. I recall trying to run Chu Chu Rocket, but for some reason, it was kind of in slow-motion, which can't be right. Also, when Capcpom put Third Strike on the service, it was the DC version they used. Then all the Sega library vanished...
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Boooo I want my copy to stay expensive!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
SSF?
Same here. Please let this happen!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Well there's still a way, just outrageously expensive no?
I got a nice PAL copy missing its outer sleeve for a reasonable price some years ago to replace my unreliable burned discs. I'd buy another digital copy in a heartbeat.
It's the only JRPG I have any strong attachment to, it's incredibly atmospheric. Short and sweet too, I imagine it stands up rather well for first timers even today. It was quite ahead of its time in some ways.
It's the only JRPG I have any strong attachment to, it's incredibly atmospheric. Short and sweet too, I imagine it stands up rather well for first timers even today. It was quite ahead of its time in some ways.
Shadow Hog
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For PDS, SSF will work great.
It leaves something to be desired on other games, however. Daytona USA is way too quiet; BUG! has a background that spasms up and down (although the foreground is fine, fortunately); Rayman interprets all button presses like they were from turbo controllers, being pressed anew every other frame; Clockwork Knight 2 crashes when loading any submenu from the main menu, making it impossible to play the actual game... it's on a game-by-game basis. Most games work fine, though.
It leaves something to be desired on other games, however. Daytona USA is way too quiet; BUG! has a background that spasms up and down (although the foreground is fine, fortunately); Rayman interprets all button presses like they were from turbo controllers, being pressed anew every other frame; Clockwork Knight 2 crashes when loading any submenu from the main menu, making it impossible to play the actual game... it's on a game-by-game basis. Most games work fine, though.
It's a Sega Saturn emulator.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
The overlying question is, do they still have the source code?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Ya, the way you worded it I thought it was another game on PC that had similar gameplay. Didn't seem like you were talking about the emulator. Thanks.
Probably not
I don't know how it's possible to make such a great game then lose the source code. Crazy.
Takamura-San
Member
I think i Smell an online petition incoming.
And i like the smell of it.
And i like the smell of it.
sixteen-bit
Member
I have a copy of Azel somewhere but I gave up 'cause I couldn't read it, lol.
This is relevant to my interests.
This is relevant to my interests.
Probably not
I don't know how it's possible to make such a great game then lose the source code. Crazy.
It is easier then you think, devs back in those days were not known for keeping the source code around, especially Japanese developers not named Nintendo.
The 360 version of Radiant Silvergun didn't really kill the price of the Saturn version.
Really kicking myself for not buying that game when it was $50.
Whaaaaat?
That's what I'm actually doing with mine, still, if they manage to upscale the internal resolution, which SSF can't do, I'm down.
That's what I'm actually doing with mine, still, if they manage to upscale the internal resolution, which SSF can't do, I'm down.
If I remember correctly, Giri Giri has an option to render games up to 1600 x 1200 or something like that. Yabause has some support as well for higher resolutions, but development is sporadic at best. SSF is a great emulator, but I really wish that it had high resolution support. It does have some basic plug-in support but custom resolutions and anti-aliasing would be much more useful.
From my understanding, Saturn renders in quads as opposed to triangles, which makes direct transfer to a 3D accelerated videocard impossible.
You can make a quad with two triangles, and it seems that's doable natively with OpenGL. But, as you said, the emulators that do it don't get updates.
Yabause does that on the 3D side, but any 2D overlay has the potential to get fucked up. Here's a picture stolen from other forum showing Panzer Dragoon running on Yabause with high-resolution rendering. I'd do some screengrabs of my own, but I can't get Yabause to read my CDs and I don't have anything to rip them right now. Be aware that there's no Texture smoothing or anything else: It's just higher-resolution rendering of the 3D models:
SSF is still the best bet, and that only runs in Software mode, so no high-resolution goodness Saturn anywhere soon.
Shadow Hog
Member
I'll be honest, I've been tempted to try other emulators just to see how everyone's doing playing catch-up to SSF. I recall messing with Cassini back before SSF really hit its stride, and while it worked (very slowly, but to be fair I was on a slower computer then than I am now), I recall having issues with save game corruption for one reason or another...
That's pretty awesome, even though I own the original it'd be so nice for more people to get to play this great game... I love what I've played of the Panzer series, just recently picked up a copy of Zwei to play through and am loving it... the atmosphere and music are striking in every game in the series.
It's not surprising, back in 2009 GameTap did mention they could release the game if they wanted to. But from what I heard their PD Zwei port wasn't that great, so most likely it would just have been PD Saga running on an emulator. There's a petition going on for a rerelease of the PD games on XBLA/PSN here: http://panzerdragoonrevival.com/, if anyone's interested in signing it.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Wii U Virtual Console. Make my dreams come true M2.
cj_iwakura
Member
Unacceptable. Never deny the originals.
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