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World's oceans in 'shocking' decline-BBC News
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Nah, few failed crops around the key countries will lead to massive starvations in the future and we probably will see similar things that happened in China and in India decades ago.radioheadrule83 said:
Time to invest more money into fish farming. We have the means but we lack the will.gerg said:
DiscoJer
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Jay Sosa said:
Yeah, it's all the corporations, not the people who spend all their days glued to computers and game consoles and electronic devices that use up gobs of energy. Like well, everyone here.
Seriously, the vast majority of people either just don't care, don't believe it, or are unwilling to change their own lifestyle, rather than blame some sort of bogeyman (companies, George Bush, the French-Chinese, etc).
Count me in the don't believe it category. Scare stories like this have been in the news for decades. It's how scientists get funding. And it would help their case if they didn't jet around the world constantly to attend conferences and seminars on the problem (always held in resorts BTW).
BudokaiMR2
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Guys we basically created our own trash island without even FUCKING TRYING
This was inevitable. There have been reports also talking about how no one really knows what kind of long-term effects the BP spill will have on the Gulf of Mexico.
It sucks that such a beautiful and mysterious thing will probably become a shadow of it's former self even though we barely even understand it.
This was inevitable. There have been reports also talking about how no one really knows what kind of long-term effects the BP spill will have on the Gulf of Mexico.
It sucks that such a beautiful and mysterious thing will probably become a shadow of it's former self even though we barely even understand it.
iamaustrian
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DiscoJer said:
you don't believe that our oceans are massvily overfished and basicly used as a giant toilet and dumpsite?
I recommend you visiting some west british(or hawaiian) sand beaches, grab a handfull sand and look at it under a loup/microscope.
radioheadrule83
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DiscoJer said:
You'll probably live long enough to learn the truth of it. Hopefully a lot of these global warming deniers in government live long enough to suffer the consequences. Maybe violent revolutions when the shit hits the fan or something. I'd hate for this to be something that only impacts our children and generations down the line.
Our descendants are so fucked. We're gonna be looked back upon as the most ignorant, self-entitled and selfish bastards that ever lived.
Two things we have right now that would solve this:
Nuclear Power
Electric Cars
Yet we have some stupid fucking countries moving away from Nuclear to chase the pipe dream of wind power. Plus we're not fucking over the planet, we're fucking over ourselves, cause after we've gone the Planet will correct itself and go on like normal.
Nuclear Power
Electric Cars
Yet we have some stupid fucking countries moving away from Nuclear to chase the pipe dream of wind power. Plus we're not fucking over the planet, we're fucking over ourselves, cause after we've gone the Planet will correct itself and go on like normal.
Thunder Monkey
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FUCK!
My mail order bride should be here any day now too.
My mail order bride should be here any day now too.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
radioheadrule83 said:
Bit of a generalization, but yeah, that's not totally untrue. I count myself as one of the people who desperately want things like nuclear and solar power, electric cars, responsible fishing, and so on, but what can one man do?
ViperVisor
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Seemed inevitable after I read The Empty Ocean 4 years ago.
scar tissue
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on the one hand, it's really sad that so many species are going extinct
as a biologist, my heart bleeds for every single one of them
on the other hand, there is a certain morbid curiosity in me that wants to see a post-apocalyptic world and overfishing the oceans is one step into that direction
either way, nature is going to be fine in the long run
humans can't make everything go extinct, as long as some animals and plants survive, evolution will find a way as soon as humanity is gone
edit: if we really want to save the planet, it's time to reduce human population
introduce a one-child policy, free condoms for everyone, bonus payments for people who choose to be sterilized, and so on
we can't continue growing like this, in fact i'm pretty sure earth is massively overpopulated already
as a biologist, my heart bleeds for every single one of them
on the other hand, there is a certain morbid curiosity in me that wants to see a post-apocalyptic world and overfishing the oceans is one step into that direction
either way, nature is going to be fine in the long run
humans can't make everything go extinct, as long as some animals and plants survive, evolution will find a way as soon as humanity is gone
edit: if we really want to save the planet, it's time to reduce human population
introduce a one-child policy, free condoms for everyone, bonus payments for people who choose to be sterilized, and so on
we can't continue growing like this, in fact i'm pretty sure earth is massively overpopulated already
Speedymanic
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nubbe said:Shall we really save diabolic creatures like this?
Kill it! The lord commands it
He's packing a fucking lightsaber, dude. No way he's not going down without a fight.
Deep down I kind of feel that as a race, we are already fucked. The first step for changing anything is to change our government which is controlled by personal greed both in the forms of individuals (our Congress who are in it for themselves) and corporations (who can legally purchase representation in Congress now). If people were to band together and actually get the attention of the government, they would be arrested.
I dont want to go to jail, so I dont care anymore.
I dont want to go to jail, so I dont care anymore.
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
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Fixed that for you.Hero said:
sans_pants
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lightless_shado said:
by 2035 we will mass produce meat in laboratories. well have a mixed grid of nuclear power, thorium reactors, and solar and wind power. many will probably be dead from environmental changes, famine, and war over emerging technologies. nanomachines will be on the horizon that can clean and purify the environment. the singularity will be approaching and then who the fuck knows what happens
sans_pants
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scar tissue said:
governments need to breed more workers
sans_pants
avec_pénis
Did you say nanomachines?sans_pants said:
sans_pants
avec_pénis
http://www.fightaging.org/darkwing said:
lol
Has a panel of activists, concerned citizens and environmental groups ever had a summit and concluded that it's 'better than we thought"? I have yet to see one in the 20 years I've been reading these press releases.
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/278/1708/1090
scar tissue
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for now, yessans_pants said:
in 50 years, robots will be able to do most if not all manual labor jobs
scar tissue
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yeah, i'm all for a culling of the human population as well, be it through war, disease or alien interferencewarthog said:
even if it meant that i would be at risk too, the greater good is more important
scar tissue
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a big chunk of humanity is doomed anyway, if we continue what we are currently doingajim said:
lots of people will starve, become homeless due to rising sea levels, and all that
It's scary knowing that if the US government came to the conclusion that a drastic drop in world population would ensure their wealth and survival, they would make it happen, without a doubt.
I'm glad I live in the US. No option would be off the table once they decided action must be taken.
I'm glad I live in the US. No option would be off the table once they decided action must be taken.
scar tissue
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eh, i don't think they would actually kill peopleCoins said:
sterilising the shit out of anyone they can catch, or putting something in the food that sterilises people, that i can imagine (and i'd be all for it)
Unknown One
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I'll vote myself in to die that way. I don't want to live in a future where food is scarce and people are resorting to cannibalism.scar tissue said:
I'd rather die in a war though, disease is fucking scary.
radioheadrule83
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smurfx said:
Maybe we'll start getting bacteria / bugs to create our oil - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e+coli+oil
Frankly this attitude of - its pointless, we're already too far gone and the human race is doomed - makes me wonder why we aren't sacking our capitals and hanging our politicians heads on spikes. I mean, whats the point in doing otherwise?
DiscoJer said:
You're looking at the world in a very small time frame. So much has changed since I was a kid. If you don't think there's something fundamentally flawed and unsustainable with the type of population growth shown in the graph below then nothing can convince you. Imagine the world in another 100 years time, given the amount of strain we're already putting on food and clean water resources.
Unknown One
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It'll at least buy humanity some time won't it?Garjon said:
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Eat more land animals people.
I don't eat any fish that aren't farm grown. What are you doing to stop your fish consumption?
I don't eat any fish that aren't farm grown. What are you doing to stop your fish consumption?
hydragonwarrior
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Whatever. We'll only do something collectively when our ass is at risk. In other words, whole ocean species dies? We won't even blink.
Now if whole ocean species dies and this creates a direct effect on us like death, then maybe we'll do something about it. Unfortunately a lot of us are trained to think in this last minute way about the environment.
So when people start dying, then possibly something will be done on a global scale to the near individual level. But by then we'll be so fucked lol
Now if whole ocean species dies and this creates a direct effect on us like death, then maybe we'll do something about it. Unfortunately a lot of us are trained to think in this last minute way about the environment.
So when people start dying, then possibly something will be done on a global scale to the near individual level. But by then we'll be so fucked lol
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