Would you get violent?

[quesalupa]

Maybe it's because I'm young and dumb but I am so fucking fed up with Trump's shit already. Obviously now's not the time to do anything brash since he's mostly talk but say the big Cheeto actually starts some classic extreme oppression. The GOP is already talking about criminalizing protest and we have an idea of their vision for the nation. I fear that things can get Hitler bad with essentially no checks and balances anymore.

So say things get Hitler bad. I'm ready to do what it takes to defend the oppressed. My likewise liberal sister's take is that she couldn't hurt anyone, even these fascist bastards. Just wondering what GAF's take on it is. Lock if inciting riot.

 

[Magwik]

Violence is not what should be on our minds right now. Don't waste your time fearing the worst and start working for the best.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

If it comes to it, yes.

But like you said, things would have to reach hitler bad or V for Vendetta bad(more likely).

 

[TheUntamedLegend]

If I don't feel like accomplishing anything.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Physically violent? No. I'm a pacifist through and through. I'd be willing to use my body as a shield for the oppressed, but I won't be a sword.

 

[brianjones]

I'm not a violent person but i wouldn't be against taking it to the streets if there were mass protests

it might actually give my life some purpose

 

[Bronx-Man]

I consider myself pacifist. But looking at the state of the union, violence is gonna find its way to my doorstop eventually.

 

[Agent_ShortBus]

Sure thing, unfortunately everyone in the US owns guns but ha jokes on them cause this minority also owns guns.

 

[John Rabbit]

Not unless my life or the life of a loved one was threatened. Violence takes many forms, and it's a certain kind of violence that's brought us to where we are today. Perpetuating that kind of energy is not what we need.

 

[TissueBox]

Violence without necessary context would just deem the perpetrators radicals/extremists, etc. Sure if things get to a head tensions will manifest themselves, and a lot of times physically. But that must arrive at a point where democratic change can no longer be evoked by the people or due process.

 

[PandaPandaPanda]

violence no

but I hope this election result lit a fire under everyone's ass to actually vote

 

[Zelenogorsk]

Reading The Dead Zone made me think of the parallels between Greg Stillson and Donald Trump. Then it made me wonder if Donald Trump's own Johnny Smith is out there right now, mulling things over. Just food for thought.

I don't own a gun so I'm not sure I'd survive getting violent in a conceal and carry state like Missouri.

 

[Aikidoka]

Yeah probably. History shows that it gets results regardless what people say

 

[kamspy]

Do you agree with the AntiFa cause?

 

[Taco_Human]

I'm gonna look forward to my gun license in the next few years here in MA, but I've never even been in a fight. I just wanna be prepared.

 

[JordanN]

Drumpf controls the military and they would probably launch missiles at a house if they had to stop a protest.

There would be no way any violent resistance could succeed without some form of underground army to organize and fight back.

 

[Madness]

Maybe it's because I'm young and dumb but I am so fucking fed up with Trump's shit already. Obviously now's not the time to do anything brash since he's mostly talk but say the big Cheeto actually starts some classic extreme oppression. The GOP is already talking about criminalizing protest and we have an idea of their vision for the nation. I fear that things can get Hitler bad with essentially no checks and balances anymore.

So say things get Hitler bad. I'm ready to do what it takes to defend the oppressed. My likewise liberal sister's take is that she couldn't hurt anyone, even these fascist bastards. Just wondering what GAF's take on it is. Lock if inciting riot.

Sort of reminds me of a story I read about how an anti-fascist group bombed a building belonging to Neo-Nazis and then said, they did it to help the oppressed and to stop the violence of fascists and to stop their message. Was really ironic.

You acknowledge he hasn't done anything yet, hell he isn't even officially President as the inauguration has yet to take place. The US has enough checks and balances againsy tyranical fascism. What is your definition of extreme oppression? What kind of scenario are you dreaming of that would be plausible and one where your volunteer military, police, national guard, and other senators, governors, congressmen and women wouldn't challenge.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Worst case situation, of course.

 

[Phased]

No, but people should get outraged and protest. Often.

Violence isn't how we sort things out, it just makes their case stronger that ignoring you is viable because you're nothing but a violent extremist.

Reading some of these posts I think people legitimately feel like it's going to be a warzone outside. Things for the most part will continue on as they always have, punctuated by random Trump fuck-ups.

A lot of people seem dangerously close to actually threatening an elected official here and in other threads. We look down on and condemn people who do it to officials we support. It should be the same thing for officials we don't.

 

[Hjod]

I don't live in the US but if fascist would take control where I live and they started oppressing people, if it would be "Hitler bad" I would take up arms, no doubt about it.

There are some things worth to give your life for, no doubt about it. Fascism must never be allowed again, never.

I just wanted to add that I'm talking about it being bad as in Germany 1935, not a Trump presidency situation.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Drumpf controls the military and they would probably launch missiles at a house if they had to stop a protest.

There would be no way any violent resistance could succeed without some form of underground army to organize and fight back.

I would hope the men and women in the army would hold extreme reservations in pointing their weaponry against US citizens but I have met enough immoral members to lose faith in that.

 

[Hierophant]

if it came down to it and people started being sent to camps, I don't see why I wouldn't at least try to start fighting back properly

 

[Salamando]

If things got Hitler bad, and the military/police are complying regardless of their own morals? We're fucked. No gun I can buy can compete with drones and APC's. I'd rather use what little wealth I have to sneak some guys out.

 

[Zoggy]

Calm the hell down.

 

[Siegcram]

Reading some of these posts I think people legitimately feel like it's going to be a warzone outside. Things for the most part will continue on as they always have, punctuated by random Trump fuck-ups.

Except for the rapid disappearance of public services, healthcare, education and civil rights. The US will drastically change within the next 4 years. And it won't be for the better. For anyone.

 

[Syncytia]

Theoretically if it gets bad enough? Yeah.

We are very, very far from that though.

 

[Bad_Boy]

Drumpf controls the military and they would probably launch missiles at a house if they had to stop a protest.

There would be no way any violent resistance could succeed without some form of underground army to organize and fight back.

I'm in the military, and no. I believe members hold a value for its own people that ranks well above any president. Even the military members who are trump supporters.

I personally would fight against any order to do so regardless of the concequence.

 

[Lemaitre]

Calm the hell down.

This.

And also to answer your question I could never do anything physically violent. Just is not in me, but your hypothetical is pretty far out there to begin with.

 

[CountAntonius]

Hitler bad? How would things get Hitler bad? Our Military is made up of a lot races. You think they would all of a sudden turn on their family members and friends or something?

 

[pje122]

If Nintendo really thinks they can charge that much for those accessories then heck yeah I would.

 

[Tall4Life]

No, but people should get outraged and protest. Often.

Violence isn't how we sort things out, it just makes their case stronger that ignoring you is viable because you're nothing but a violent extremist.

Reading some of these posts I think people legitimately feel like it's going to be a warzone outside. Things for the most part will continue on as they always have, punctuated by random Trump fuck-ups.

A lot of people seem dangerously close to actually threatening an elected official here and in other threads. We look down on and condemn people who do it to officials we support. It should be the same thing for officials we don't.

Nonviolent protest is worthless when the wrongdoer doesn't give a shit about you and people who can otherwise affect change don't give a shit about you either. Try telling the Jews in 30's Germany that they should peacefully protest.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Listen, there's not a chance in hell of it getting that bad(that quickly, not a country like this) so chill, and I'm more the non-violent type to say the least...

...But...

If the GOP spends the next 4 years trying to pass laws like this:

In North Dakota, for instance, Republicans introduced a bill last week that would allow motorists to run over and kill any protester obstructing a highway as long as a driver does so accidentally.

Shit won't be pretty.

 

[Goose_Se7en]

If Nintendo really thinks they can charge that much for those accessories then heck yeah I would.

Lol.

 

[siddx]

I'm a Jewish man who grew up learning about how the world repeatedly tried to exterminate my ancestors over and over again throughout history. If it ever got that bad again you better fucking believe I'd be willing to fight.

 

[Maengun1]

Things are continually moving further and further away from "here's the facts and reality we live in, and we can have a healthy argument about how to proceed" into the realm where one side lives in reality and the other side is just completely making shit up. And that makes me feel like some sort of Civil War 2 is inevitable. Yet I can't see it happening with how fat and lazy and comfortable people are. I mean, things have to get really bad.

But I could see it happening in our lifetimes sure. It's getting worse every day.

 

[ChouGoku]

Violence for the most part is a matter of circumstance, now under a president who apparently supports cop killers, and 100% riding with activist groups like BLM, we have a heavily armed police force who meets protesters with tanks and with military grade weapons. We have also had private contractors assault citizens with no consequences at DAPL. I wonder how the cops will react with a president who speaks on groups like BLM as they are terrorist groups and has money in pipelines like DAPL. Of course this will be compounded with rising food prices due to climate change and job loss due to automation. I'm sure these next few years will be interesting especially in cities where there is a large concentration of people.

But to be honest I doubt it will get Hitler bad, as bad as things look the past was much worse on almost every metric, including violence and barbarianism. We also are super farmers now with GMO's so even if prices rise we will adjust.

 

[NightShift]

I don't live in the US but nothing about the current state of politics is worth violence. If it goes Hitler bad, sure but you're crazy for thinking that. Violence should always be a last resort.

 

[x3sphere]

I'm having a hard time seeing how things could get Hilter bad. Anything is possible, but that's such a remote possibility at this point.

The next 4 years will probably be shitty for lots of people if Trump does push the agenda he promised, but I think the country will survive it without a civil war or anything like that. There's a lot of checks and balances in place to minimize the damage just one president could do. And if Trump ends up being a terrible president, then hopefully people wake up and avoid electing someone like him again.

 

[Oscar]

Nah I got a little clone to protect.

The days of me YOLO'ing it and doing crazy shit for a cause are over.

 

[Tall4Life]

I'm having a hard time seeing how things could get Hilter bad. Anything is possible, but that's such a remote possibility at this point.

The next 4 years will probably be shitty for lots of people if Trump does push the agenda he promised, but I think the country will survive it without a civil war or anything like that. There's a lot of checks and balances in place to minimize the damage just one president could do. And if Trump ends up being a terrible president, then hopefully people wake up and avoid electing someone like him again.

What checks and balances exist when one party will control all three branches?

 

[Fercho-Kyzer]

YES I would get violent.

and that applies for my 2 nations and their people: Mexico and the US.

And I know I will not receive any love saying this, but i believe that the "volume" of the protests needs to turn up a little starting today.

Minorities, progressives, liberals, intelectuals. We have been oppressed by far too long and the glimmer of hope that Obama gave us will be completely erased. It's time to fight and not only with words, joked and facts as weapons