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[-Pyromaniac-]

Why wouldn't it be if it runs on tegra...? Pretty easy transition. Thought this was automatically assumed. In fact I think it will go even further and they'll open it up to all developers of android/ios to release their games on it.

 

[Femto.]

The NX direct can not come soon enough.

 

[Persona7]

What are the odds that the NX has a closed off android store front akin to the Amazon app store?

The eurogamer report says it isn't running android.

 

[HandsomeCharles]

What are the odds that the NX has a closed off android store front akin to the Amazon app store?

Next to zero. I'd bet my life savings on this device not running android of any form.

 

[Gamezone]

As long Nintendo keeps ignoring powerful hardware, they might as well go this route.

 

[DSix]

So let's see: the NX is an ARM machine with a detachable controller that is very likely to have mobile internet (as freenium mobile games require).

Guys, it's a phone.

 

[Bulbasaur]

Imagine if its a cell phone, would you replace your iPhone/Android with it?

Assume the main component is the same size as say, an iPhone 6+.

Yes omg yes.

But it wont be.

 

[Soapbox Killer]

The NX direct can not come soon enough.

I forgot Nintendo Directs even existed. I miss them.

 

[Spirit Icana]

lol

I'm a couple days away from going ahead and buying an iphone se and now these rumors are making me want to hold off until I know what this thing is. I don't need two expensive gadgets serving my needs (apps and calls).

If NX can't do calls, but apps, like say Anki, work on it, then I'd rather buy a cheap phone than drop a ton on an iOS phone.

Welp, time to change plans. Back to waiting.

 

[Falchion]

you...can?
right now

Not on a console with a decent screen that doesn't get washed out in any sunlight.

 

[kinn]

You guys reckon that they could use a heavily modified forked version of android to make the mobile games compatible? I think there were rumors going round before about how they were going to be using android.

Kind of doubt it thinking about it. They might consider the OS isnt secure enough.

 

[Darryl]

no shock at all. I mean Pokemon go is on Unity. it would be surprising if they didn't bring it over, alongside their other mobile games

 

[Nessus]

Pretty sure this doesn't mean that it'll run smartphone apps in general, just that they'll be super easy to port over.

I think it makes sense. The entire point of a hybrid console and the recent restructuring at Nintendo was to consolidate their software development. It wouldn't make sense to do all that work and then go ahead create another separate line of software (smartphones). This is a device where you'll be able to play every game Nintendo makes, period.

 

[Kouriozan]

I forgot Nintendo Directs even existed. I miss them.

Well, they can't show a lot of stuff since apparently some Wii U project moved to NX, but I don't doubt they'll come back.

 

[watershed]

What is the WSJ is wrong on compatible meaning can play Nintendo mobile games and instead compatible means will have software that works in conjunction with Nintendo mobile games like Nintendo themselves have already discussed?

 

[forrest]

If Animal Crossing is announced as a launch title then my wife will be asking me to buy an NX on day one instead of the other way around.

 

[Easy_D]

It would be really cool if you could sideload APK files somehow lol. If it's using an android derivative, that is.

 

[brawly]

So the floodgates are open. Nintendo please push up the reveal.

 

[AtomicShroom]

At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if the NX also doubled as a cell phone with LTE support. Subsidizing the cost of the device with carriers would go a long way into getting it in the hands of people for much cheaper than the full retail price.

This could either work really well or tank really hard.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if the NX also doubled as a cell phone with LTE support. Subsidizing the cost of the device with carriers would go a long night way into getting it in the hands of people for much cheaper than the full retail price.

This could either work really well or tank really hard.

A Nintendo phone would tank hard.

Which is why they're not making a cell-phone

 

[Neoxon]

no shock at all. I mean Pokemon go is on Unity. it would be surprising if they didn't bring it over, alongside their other mobile games

I wouldn't be too sure, especially since Pokémon GO requires a constant internet connection & a GPS. Plus Pokémon GO likely won't be anywhere near as popular as it is right now by the time the NX comes out.

 

[AtomicShroom]

A Nintendo phone would tank hard.

Which is why they're not making a cell-phone

Oh so you've done market research? Care to link?

 

[ekurisona]

Care to link?

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Oh so you've done market research? Care to link?

It's an opinion. Based on the fact that there is no way in hell Nintendo can meaningfully enter a saturated market that they have no experience in. Most everyone already owns a phone, making it a completely redundant device.

So yeah, that's not happening.

 

[Atomicfireman]

Oh so you've done market research? Care to link?

Does this really need to be explained? Apple and Samsung have dominated the smart phone market for years, a market Nintendo has no experience in. Nintendo have already said that they don't want to compete with Sony and Microsoft in the traditional home console space, so why would they instead try to compete in a new, even more competitive and inhospitable market?

 

[AmyS]

This is seriously awesome, the historic scans and pictures you post are always so interesting. Wow, to think they were revealing it in '88 while over in the U.S. we had no idea and thought the NES was it.

Yeah, Nintendo revealed the Super Famicom to the press in Japan on November 21, 1988. Exactly two years before its Japanese release, and what, 33 months before the SNES hit American stores (August 1991).

More from November 1988.

 

[Agent Unknown]

The more info I read the more simultaneously intrigued but also skeptical about Nintendo's chances. It sounds promising obviously to dedicated portable owners but chasing the mobile crowd just seems dangerous and almost pointless.

Yeah, Nintendo revealed the Super Famicom to the press in Japan on November 21, 1988. Exactly two years before its Japanese release, and what, 33 months before the SNES hit American stores (August 1991).

More from November 1988.

Was it originally going to have BC or is that other build to the left with the SMB 3 cart an early version of the top loader Famicom?

 

[MuchoMalo]

I am glad someone in Nintendo's hardware team monitors neogaf.

Why couldn't it have GPS? Why couldn't Nintendo partner with say Verizon and ATT and have an LTE module for data down the line? They could have a model with LTE for say $80 more a few months post release. GPS is fairly cheap now days.

Because they want to keep costs down and there's no good reason to do it when everyone has a smart phone anyway. You also have to keep in mind that the US isn't the only country in the world. They'd have to make dozens or even hundreds of deals. It also kinda completely failed for Vita.

 

[aBarreras]

Because they want to keep costs down and there's no good reason to do it when everyone has a smart phone anyway. You also have to keep in mind that the US isn't the only country in the world. They'd have to make dozens or even hundreds of deals. It also kinda completely failed for Vita.

part of the reason nintendo tvii never took off, people dont really account for al the troubles that would be make a nintendo phone that only works on US.

they sell hardware all over the world, they need ot keep it simple

 

[Crazyorloco]

Put pokemon go (with new features) in and we have the killer app.

 

[Neoxon]

Put pokemon go (with new features) in and we have the killer app.

As stated earlier, that would require both a GPS & a constant 4G connection. And while the former could very well happen, the latter would both make the NX a bit on the expensive side & force players to pay a monthly fee to use said 4G (& we all know how that worked out with Sony concerning the Vita). On top of that, the Pokémon GO userbase may very well be a fraction of what it is right now by the time the NX comes out, so there may not really be a point in bothering with a port of the game.

 

[ekurisona]

snip

Amy, really enjoy & appreciate your contributions here - do you have a twitter feed?

 

[MuchoMalo]

It is a hybrid in that it is meant to replace their handheld and console lines.

That it doesn't replace the console line to your satisfaction doesn't invalidate what it is.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with this. It's a handheld. It's designed as a handheld to work within its limitations. 100% handheld. Note however that I also don't consider any Surface device other than the Surface Book to be a true hybrid.

 

[trugs26]

As stated earlier, that would require both a GPS & a constant 4G connection. And while the former could very well happen, the latter would both make the NX a bit on the expensive side & force players to pay a monthly fee to use said 4G (& we all know how that worked out with Sony concerning the Vita). On top of that, the Pokémon GO userbase may very well be a fraction of what it is right now by the time the NX comes out, so there may not really be a point in bothering with a port of the game.

Make it compatible with the Pokmon Go Plus peripheral.

 

[Neoxon]

Make it compatible with the Pokmon Go Plus peripheral.

That still doesn't solve the potential issues brought up in the post you quoted.

 

[trugs26]

That still doesn't solve the potential issues brought up in the post you quoted.

Yeah I just realised that after typing. Was going to delete the comment, but too late. Oh well.

 

[Fantastical]

I'm sure this has probably been said but I don't understand the point if people already have smartphones (they do!).

Makes more sense to have games that plug in to the apps. Pokemon Go-enabled functionality in a Pokemon NX game.

 

[Neoxon]

Yeah I just realised that after typing. Was going to delete the comment, but too late. Oh well.

Eh, don't sweat it. It happens to the best of us.

That said, if the Pokémon GO userbase levels out at a respectable number, maybe it'll be worthwhile for Nintendo to port the game. But we have no idea how low the userbase is gonna go right now.

 

[aBarreras]

I'm sure this has probably been said but I don't understand the point if people already have smartphones (they do!).

Makes more sense to have games that plug in to the apps. Pokemon Go-enabled functionality in a Pokemon NX game.

well you see, i rather deplete my nx battery than my phone's, maybe it;s not much, but it is a little neat perk to nx owners

 

[Helznicht]

So GPS and Touchscreen confirmed then.

 

[Kimawolf]

As stated earlier, that would require both a GPS & a constant 4G connection. And while the former could very well happen, the latter would both make the NX a bit on the expensive side & force players to pay a monthly fee to use said 4G (& we all know how that worked out with Sony concerning the Vita). On top of that, the Pokémon GO userbase may very well be a fraction of what it is right now by the time the NX comes out, so there may not really be a point in bothering with a port of the game.

They could add a LTE antennae though, work out deals with carriers. After all everyone has a cellphone, if you could add it to your plan for cheap why not? Im sure parents would do it for their kids. hell i'd do it.

And if Nintendo really does want to do a seachange and all this mobile gaming, they will HAVE to have the constant communication of a LTE antenna. I believe it'll have one. or maybe even a 3G antenna.

 

[trugs26]

Eh, don't sweat it. It happens to the best of us.

That said, if the Pokémon GO userbase levels out at a respectable number, maybe it'll be worthwhile for Nintendo to port the game. But we have no idea how low the userbase is gonna go right now.

It would be pretty neat to be able to do something extra with the Pokemon you catch in PoGo. Even if it's like managing a Pokemon farm.

 

[ZarKryn7]

So I guess this is what Yves ment? About attracting casuals and all.

 

[Kimawolf]

Does this really need to be explained? Apple and Samsung have dominated the smart phone market for years, a market Nintendo has no experience in. Nintendo have already said that they don't want to compete with Sony and Microsoft in the traditional home console space, so why would they instead try to compete in a new, even more competitive and inhospitable market?

unless is Samsung or Google making the phone. no way they'd do it themselves.

 

[Zedark]

That means only one thing:

Spoiler

FIRE EMBLEM ON THE BIG SCREEN!!!

NX looking like a better and better purchase.

 

[AmyS]

The more info I read the more simultaneously intrigued but also skeptical about Nintendo's chances. It sounds promising obviously to dedicated portable owners but chasing the mobile crowd just seems dangerous and almost pointless.



Was it originally going to have BC or is that other build to the left with the SMB 3 cart an early version of the top loader Famicom?

The early Super Famicom itself wasn't going to have BC but that other build was a redesigned Famicom, named the Famicom Adaptor (strangely enough) for the 8-bit games.

Now here is Electronic Gaming Monthly's report on the Super Famicom from July 1989 (EGM #2).
And sure, they show that redesigned 8-bit Famicom saying it was the original Famicom, even though it's obviously not the actual original design from 1983.
Plus, they get the year it was released wrong, saying 1985 (NES came to America in '85). Otherwise, it was a pretty fascinating article for the time.

(Actual 1983 8-bit Famicom)

Electronic Gaming Monthly's next major update on the Super Famicom, July 1990 (EGM #12).
Another good article, however they're saying SFC was revealed to the Japanese press in summer of 1989. No, that happened Nov. '88. Their own coverage began in summer 1989.

October 1990 (EGM #15) SFC Japan pre-launch.

Amy, really enjoy & appreciate your contributions here - do you have a twitter feed?

Thanks, I appreciate that but I don't use twitter, facebook or social media in general.

 

[Azelover]

I hope it turns out okay, but my intuition isn't filling me with joy at the moment.

Hopefully the information just isn't accurate, or something really huge is missing.

 

[Nostremitus]

So, if it can play Pokémon Go it either has GPS and 4G or it will wirelessly tether to your phone...

 

[Neoxon]

So, if it can play Pokémon Go it either has GPS and 4G or it will wirelessly tether to your phone...

Pokémon GO isn't really one of Nintendo's mobile games like Miitomo, Animal Crossing, & Fire Emblem are. And even then, I've mentioned the potential issues involving getting Pokémon GO on the NX earlier in this thread.

 

[Agent Unknown]

The early Super Famicom itself wasn't going to have BC but that other build was a redesigned Famicom, named the Famicom Adaptor (strangely enough) for the 8-bit games.

Now here is Electronic Gaming Monthly's report on the Super Famicom from July 1989 (EGM #2).
And sure, they show that redesigned 8-bit Famicom saying it was the original Famicom, even though it's obviously not the actual original design from 1983.
Plus, they get the year it was released wrong, saying 1985 (NES came to America in '85). Otherwise, it was a pretty fascinating article for the time.



(Actual 1983 8-bit Famicom)

Electronic Gaming Monthly's next major update on the Super Famicom, July 1990 (EGM #12).
Another good article, however they're saying SFC was revealed to the Japanese press in summer of 1989. No, that happened Nov. '88. Their own coverage began in summer 1989.



October 1990 (EGM #15) SFC Japan pre-launch.





Thanks, I appreciate that but I don't use twitter, facebook or social media in general.

Cool, thanks for the additional info and clarification.