Anasui Kishibe
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trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4-5NGSBVsY
looking great. According to IGN, reelease date is March 11
the first one was pretty nice, looking forward for this sequel
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WTF? Nanostray 2 is out in two days?
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trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4-5NGSBVsY
looking great. According to IGN, reelease date is March 11
the first one was pretty nice, looking forward for this sequel
MarzipaNMOS
Member
lame 
I've spent all of my gaming money this month already on Brawl and ZX advent. Hopefully I'll be able to get this cheap later on.
I've spent all of my gaming money this month already on Brawl and ZX advent. Hopefully I'll be able to get this cheap later on.bigmakstudios
Banned
Is it just me or does that ship in the lower left corner look just like the Ebon Hawk from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic?
ok, it doesn't really.
Peronthious
Member
Awesome, here's hoping it's a decent game. I've been waiting for a good shmup on the DS, but if this doesn't fit the bill, Bangai-O will do it quite nicely.
nincompoop
Banned
fixedPeronthious said:
Peronthious
Member
nincompoop said:
Hah, can't believe I forgot about that. I imported it too; spent way too much time with it last week =P Top of the line game, very import friendly.
I think the only thing that makes me hesitant to buy is whether or not the touchscreen is used.
The only problem with nanostray 1 was the touchscreen, which made have an anneurysm and toss the game.
Why can't they just do a version of gradius 5 or ikaruga or something with the graphics ds-ized?
The only problem with nanostray 1 was the touchscreen, which made have an anneurysm and toss the game.
Why can't they just do a version of gradius 5 or ikaruga or something with the graphics ds-ized?
JRPereira said:
Three Control Schemes
1: Classic Control (doesn't force any touch screen usage)
2: Left Handed Touch Control (using the stylus and buttons)
3: Right Handed Touch Control (using the stylus and buttons)
The Touch Controls give a complete new feeling to an arcade game like N2. Those control schemes are very accessible for players who haven't played many arcade games before. Skilled players will enjoy the new controls as a new experience to the genre.
radios shipping overview
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Is that from a press release? Or do you just write press releases in your spare time?Blackbird said:
jiji said:
It's copied from a press release or fact sheet back then, can't exactly remember (grabbed it fom my webbie). The same text is used on the official site though: www.nanostray2.com
Hatchet Man
Member
I enjoyed the first one so I'll definitely pick this up.
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/935401.asp?q=nanostray
Wait, WHAT?? Those are worse than for part one
Oh, read the metacritic ones:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/nanostray2
Wait, WHAT?? Those are worse than for part one
Oh, read the metacritic ones:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/nanostray2
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
is it out yet?
Some gaffer played it?
Some gaffer played it?
stuminus3
Member
Got it. It's awesome. Love letter to shmup fans everywhere... it's 'influenced' by just about every top-rated classic and modern shmup you can think of... scoring system is nice and straightforward, not so absurd as the first game... nice graphics and sound... fixes everything that was wrong with the first Nanostray... lots of content...
Ignore the reviews. They are irrelevant when it comes to shmups. This one's getting some positive feedback from fans of the genre. See also: point and click adventures. Reviewers these days just don't get the classic genres.
Ignore the reviews. They are irrelevant when it comes to shmups. This one's getting some positive feedback from fans of the genre. See also: point and click adventures. Reviewers these days just don't get the classic genres.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
stuminus3 said:
thanks for the great impressions
Peru said:
they're basically saying game kicked their asses for its difficulty. Which is by no means a bad thing for those who played old-school shooters and know the feeling
tetrisgrammaton
Member
so 1985... lol
stuminus3 said:
So true. A good example came from this other shmup review that went something like "All I did was bomb until I ran out of bombs and died, and then continued when I ran out of lives. This game sucks because I die so much." They don't seem to get that shmups are supposed to be hard to the point that you're meant to survive only by the skin of your teeth.
stuminus3 said:
Indeed. Apart from a few 2D platformers, classic games or variations on classics are really getting the cold shoulder from reviewers. I remember IGN's review of Touch Detective where the reviewer complained that the game had a twisted logic. Poor sap probably never played Monkey Island or Day of the Tentacle...
My copy of Nanostray 2 shipped yesterday, I should get it next week...
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
This is gonna be mine then.
The first one was average+ but a nice first attempt on the DS.
Well, only thing missing from the reviews was something like "this game is too short, first to last level you can beat it in 30 minutes"!
The first one was average+ but a nice first attempt on the DS.
Well, only thing missing from the reviews was something like "this game is too short, first to last level you can beat it in 30 minutes"!
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
So will this become the official thread?
Iam Canadian
and have the worst user name EVER
I've had my eye on this game for a while. I actually enjoyed the original Nanostray, despite its flaws. I'll have to get around to picking this game up before it becomes annoyingly rare.
Baron
Member
Dash Kappei said:
This is no different from any other shoot-em-up. I could play Gradius V from beginning to end in about 45 minutes. Is that game too short? Fuck no. 30 minutes is right about average for the genre. Why are you complaining now about something that has existed for over two decades? Do you seriously want to maintain the level of attention and energy needed in a shmup to play for more than 30 minutes? An 8-hour long shmup? Funk that.
Played only a couple levels on a friend's DS. From what I played, it's a major improvement over the first one. Level design is tight and much more inspired this time. I played 3 levels, and each one of them seemed to be paying homage to classic shmups.
I noticed Gradius, R-type, Salamander, Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga and Raystorm references just on the 3 levels I played. But it doesn't feel like a ripoff, it's more like noticing the various horror movie references scattered on RE1, as example.
From the little I saw, there seems to be lots of replay value, with the multiple modes and challenges. Being able to fine tune your option setup, secondary weapon and ship speed before each level is also a nice touch.
I noticed Gradius, R-type, Salamander, Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga and Raystorm references just on the 3 levels I played. But it doesn't feel like a ripoff, it's more like noticing the various horror movie references scattered on RE1, as example.
From the little I saw, there seems to be lots of replay value, with the multiple modes and challenges. Being able to fine tune your option setup, secondary weapon and ship speed before each level is also a nice touch.
My feeling about the game itself is that it's an awesome mix of Gradius, R-Type, Ikaruga, and other styles, without feeling like a complete knockoff. Basically, this is solid, nicely balanced shmup... easily the best on the DS or PSP.
The "you'll beat it in 30 minutes" argument is bullshit. For sure, you won't beat all 8 levels your first time through in 30 minutes. They're long, there are numerous bullet-hell and "dodge the hazards" portions, and you only get 20 total lives. YOU CAN NOT BLEED SHIPS AND BEAT THIS GAME.
I made it to the 5th level my first time. Made it to level 8, but didn't beat it, the second. Finally beat it the third time--ON EASY. And I only had two ships left. I'm noticing all sorts of beefed up enemies and new patterns on Normal... not sure I have the mettle to complete it, but I'm going to try. Definitely feeling a Contra IV vibe with regard to the difficulty curve.
Very glad that once you've visited a stage in the adventure mode, it's unlocked in the arcade mode. Makes practicing easier, plus I can jump right to the Daitoshi Station stage, which is my favorite (Ikaruga-ish).
FYI--a warning to those that hate running into walls in shmups: The walls can destroy you, and the game frequently borrows from the R-Type playbook of "dodge the environment" and "scroll upward, scroll diagonally, rotate the level!"
The 30 minute further falls apart thanks to the Challenge mode: 32 unique mini missions where you have to do things like survive, destroy X waves of enemies, or gather X number of power-ups. They're pretty damn challenging, too.
My only complaints are: I wish I had one extra continue, I wish the ship was slightly smaller for the hectic situations (the hitbox doesn't include the wings or nose, thankfully), and I wish bosses had less health. Yeah, all weaksauce complaints.
The "you'll beat it in 30 minutes" argument is bullshit. For sure, you won't beat all 8 levels your first time through in 30 minutes. They're long, there are numerous bullet-hell and "dodge the hazards" portions, and you only get 20 total lives. YOU CAN NOT BLEED SHIPS AND BEAT THIS GAME.
I made it to the 5th level my first time. Made it to level 8, but didn't beat it, the second. Finally beat it the third time--ON EASY. And I only had two ships left. I'm noticing all sorts of beefed up enemies and new patterns on Normal... not sure I have the mettle to complete it, but I'm going to try. Definitely feeling a Contra IV vibe with regard to the difficulty curve.
Very glad that once you've visited a stage in the adventure mode, it's unlocked in the arcade mode. Makes practicing easier, plus I can jump right to the Daitoshi Station stage, which is my favorite (Ikaruga-ish).
FYI--a warning to those that hate running into walls in shmups: The walls can destroy you, and the game frequently borrows from the R-Type playbook of "dodge the environment" and "scroll upward, scroll diagonally, rotate the level!"
The 30 minute further falls apart thanks to the Challenge mode: 32 unique mini missions where you have to do things like survive, destroy X waves of enemies, or gather X number of power-ups. They're pretty damn challenging, too.
My only complaints are: I wish I had one extra continue, I wish the ship was slightly smaller for the hectic situations (the hitbox doesn't include the wings or nose, thankfully), and I wish bosses had less health. Yeah, all weaksauce complaints.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Baron said:
You=Fail
Read the thread, do you see the extracts from those dead wrong reviews now? Well they're so clueless that "the only thing missing was something like [..]"
Edit:
Ok, the sarcasm detector must have gone totally off in this thread
...and I've probably (kinda) missed a couple of smilies and a better phrasing :lol
Except it really doesn't matter that you were being sarcastic... a couple magazine reviews have used the "too short" card, and you just know a bunch of online sites will pull the same shtick too... they always do.Dash Kappei said:
Props to Shin'en for coming up with ways to add multiple layers of replay.
Really neat game. I like how you have really fine control over how the options are set up.
The gameplay doesn't strike me as a refined masterpiece like gradius or ikaruga but it is still a great shmup, especially considering there's not really much for shmups on the DS right now.
Looks great, plays pretty smooth, interesting bosses. Some of the secondary weapons are a bit wierd to use. I've been mostly sticking to pulse. I found the mines useful when you need a big punch.
The gameplay doesn't strike me as a refined masterpiece like gradius or ikaruga but it is still a great shmup, especially considering there's not really much for shmups on the DS right now.
Looks great, plays pretty smooth, interesting bosses. Some of the secondary weapons are a bit wierd to use. I've been mostly sticking to pulse. I found the mines useful when you need a big punch.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/861/861197p1.html
8.1
IGN seem to think it's great, and so do I, much better than the first one.
8.1
IGN seem to think it's great, and so do I, much better than the first one.
The reviews are slowly trickling in:
EDIT: Heh, sinnergy, I was entering this as you posted the IGN link above! Same thought!
IGN: 8.1
http://ds.ign.com/articles/861/861197p1.html
Hardcore Gamer: 4 (out of 5)
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/index.php?option=com_magazine&type=article&id_article=41
GamePro: 4 (out of 5)
http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/ds/games/reviews/167948.shtml
GameDaily: 8
http://www.gamedaily.com/games/nanostray-2/ds/game-reviews/review/6986/1983/
GamesRadar: 8
http://www.gamesradar.com/ds/nanost...a-20080317135156422072/g-20070108151722309059
1UP: C+
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3166976&p=39
Game Informer: 7.3
Nintendo Power: 6.0
EGM: 6.5 / 6.0 / 5.0
I think the Hardcore Gamer review nailed it on the head by saying "a good shooter should be fun to play, repeatedly." That's Nanostray 2 in a nutshell.
IGN's review kind of ragged on the generic ship designs... I can sort of agree... but I also think there are plenty of nice ships scattered throughout... and the levels themselves provide a goodly amount of eye candy. He does give proper kudos to the levels and the cinematic aspects though, and finishes off with the same conclusion that Hardcore Gamer did: It's fun.
The thing I find disconcerting (or hilarious) is that the reviews that scored it low all seem to have done so based on it being "old school" and difficult to beat. Umm... yeaaah... *scratches head* ... aren't shmups supposed to make you work to see those last little bits? They sure didn't point out Contra 4's difficulty and regimented levels as a negative.
I'm not sure why 1UP gave it a C+. The review rags on how you have to play through the early levels just to see the later ones... but that's the only real negative thing said in the entire review.
Also, in the interests of full disclosure, I wrote the GamesRadar review. So, I'm not going to comment on it...
EDIT: Heh, sinnergy, I was entering this as you posted the IGN link above! Same thought!
IGN: 8.1
http://ds.ign.com/articles/861/861197p1.html
Hardcore Gamer: 4 (out of 5)
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/index.php?option=com_magazine&type=article&id_article=41
GamePro: 4 (out of 5)
http://www.gamepro.com/nintendo/ds/games/reviews/167948.shtml
GameDaily: 8
http://www.gamedaily.com/games/nanostray-2/ds/game-reviews/review/6986/1983/
GamesRadar: 8
http://www.gamesradar.com/ds/nanost...a-20080317135156422072/g-20070108151722309059
1UP: C+
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3166976&p=39
Game Informer: 7.3
Nintendo Power: 6.0
EGM: 6.5 / 6.0 / 5.0
I think the Hardcore Gamer review nailed it on the head by saying "a good shooter should be fun to play, repeatedly." That's Nanostray 2 in a nutshell.
IGN's review kind of ragged on the generic ship designs... I can sort of agree... but I also think there are plenty of nice ships scattered throughout... and the levels themselves provide a goodly amount of eye candy. He does give proper kudos to the levels and the cinematic aspects though, and finishes off with the same conclusion that Hardcore Gamer did: It's fun.
The thing I find disconcerting (or hilarious) is that the reviews that scored it low all seem to have done so based on it being "old school" and difficult to beat. Umm... yeaaah... *scratches head* ... aren't shmups supposed to make you work to see those last little bits? They sure didn't point out Contra 4's difficulty and regimented levels as a negative.
I'm not sure why 1UP gave it a C+. The review rags on how you have to play through the early levels just to see the later ones... but that's the only real negative thing said in the entire review.
Also, in the interests of full disclosure, I wrote the GamesRadar review. So, I'm not going to comment on it...