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Wuhan Coronavirus Pandemic |OT|

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I mean what's the difference between clinical confirmation and laboratory. Is clinical wrong?
Pneumonia deaths in china stemming from flu in 2019: 150,000.

These new figures are misleading but I applaud them taking such a precautionary measure. It means the coronavirus has nowhere to hide if they go with a total approach. Whether you get pneumonia from the flu or from this virus, its just as dangerous.
 
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Scary but if they were hiding the numbers then they may just gradually tell the truth over the next couple of weeks by trickling in more reported deaths gradually.
 

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It’s all smoke and mirrors people, to keep us silent , mass hysteria doesn’t benefit anyone ... but numbers are gonna rise, because they faked them.. and now they trickle them slowly.

But if you used your brain you would know China would do this .
 
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Pneumonia deaths in china stemming from flu in 2019: 150,000.

These new figures are misleading but I applaud them taking such a precautionary measure. It means the coronavirus has nowhere to hide if they go with a total approach. Whether you get pneumonia from the flu or from this virus, its just as dangerous.
Except it’s not ... you do t get pneumonia from the flu, which is a virus, you get it from a secondary bacteria infection, that why antibiotics don’t work in the corona virus ... it’s pneumonia from a virus which we don’t have a cure for ... a virus you have to ride out . With care .
 

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Mhm I wonder if that's also the case in Europe...
 

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Mhm I wonder if that's also the case in Europe...
It is. They already warn that Germany might run out of antibiotics. So right now the virus might not kill us but shortages of medications become a serious issue for our sick people :-/
 

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Really . . . . . how are we so depended with everything on china and nobody seems to notice it until something happens
Money ... all the managers and CEO s think about was, I want a bigger house , 2 Lamborghini’s etc, sell the company to China, build factories in Asia ...

Investors all think about money.

Now they can use that money to keep the world turning ..

Idiots
 
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It is. They already warn that Germany might run out of antibiotics. So right now the virus might not kill us but shortages of medications become a serious issue for our sick people :-/
Antibiotics won’t help against this virus ... but it will prevent other bacterial infections, so that the body can fight the virus ...

That’s how it works with viruses.
I tell you something about myself.

I know because about 20 years ago I had a variant of a virus that was known , but I had about 10 times more heavy than regular, I was still at school when I got it in my late teens, I literally slept for 3 months , awake for about 2 hours a day, that year I had to drop my study, after a year I could function, took me 3 -4 years to have the energy I had before the virus ...

No medicine...

I can tell you I don’t ever want to experience this again.. so maybe I am to careful now.
but I prepared for the worst for my wife and son. Masks and everything.
 
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Antibiotics won’t help against this virus ... but it will prevent other bacterial infections, so that the body can fight the virus ...
I know that and I talked about people who need antibiotics ;-)

So i meant sick people having other infections based on bacteria.
 
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That was absolutely to be expected after a two week quarantine. That's the whole point of it, to limit new infections. It looks like it works. There's so much fearmongering, when the reality is that 2 to 3 % of infections die and most of them if they are older than 60 and had a previous medical condition. And so far no person that is not of Chinese origin has died. Looking at where the deaths occur only Wuhan has a serious problem, in all other cities the numbers are so low that hospitals can treat the patients to the best of their capabilities, which is the main reason why so much less people have to die there.
So now (with the newest info we gave) that we know China was quietly under reporting their cases how can we trust they have it under control? I'm inclined to believe that the bumber of cases is 100k+, like the leaks and rumors suggested, but yeah i'm pretty sure i'm fearmongering 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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I am willing to go as far as a couple of K, 300k, its highly contagious, their population is 1.3 billion.

And this me, low balling! Why would you use al these containment measures?

So do the math ..
 
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I am willing to go as far as a couple of K, 300k, its highly contagious, their population is 1.3 billion.

And this me, low balling! Why would you use al these containment measures?

So do the math ..
Of course it's vastly higher. Otherwise they wouldn't lock down cities, people in their appartments, deny travel, lock em up in mobile cubes, forcefully detain, expect everyone to provide daily body temperatures and transport from their homes and bribe people to snitch if they know someone ran from Wuhan or is lookins sick. No, this is not standard procedure for being in control.
 

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They need to hurry up and quell this. It’s really starting to hurt the world economy. Once they do, they need stricter regulations on these markets.
 

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There we go.
Doesn’t explain the jump in deaths though. They recategorise that too?

I also heard that WHO is now in China, they might be correcting their figures. Tomorrow’s numbers will be interesting.
Could be number correction. Remeber deaths are not "Died today" but were "Recorded today." This could be getting us closer to the real numbers.


About six weeks ago, China was reporting on the first 41 cases of confirmed #coronavirus in that country. Singapore and Hong Kong have now each hit 50 cases. Modeling suggests that the time from first introduction to epidemic spread is about 10 weeks.

So that means it should breakout in North America end of March or early April... Maybe a little later due to all the preventive measures.
Major cities in the US will have problems, but as long as they don't ignore it the summer should help.

This virus is odd in that we don't really understand all of the way it spreads, and sometimes doesn't spread. I have a inkling that it's ability to spread through aerosolization of fecal matter may be a big clue. In china I believe most apartments don't have bathrooms? If so that means communal bathrooms are a great place were it can spread easily on surfaces and through shit.

In the US most of us have personal homes that are not crowded, and, even if we live in apartments, our apartments have their own bathrooms.

The key to staying safe is to stay away from public transit (hope you have car), public bathrooms (hold your shit till you get home), and don't eat out. Also, wash you hands in a non-bathroom sink as much as possible and use hand sanitizer with at least 70% alcohol.

All of that said, living in an apartment during a pandemic is a horrible idea. I suspect a lot of millennials who scoff at the idea of owning a home in the suburbs will be buying them in the next few years once they realize how dumb it is to stack yourself on top of other people in buildings.
 
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In china I believe most apartments don't have bathrooms?
I've never heard that before. I know bathtubs aren't common though.

The reason the aerosolization through fecal matter is a thing is that their plumbing systems doesn't utilize P-traps.
 
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Youtube-Doc, people on the internet pretending to be experts in viral deseases, dumb bitches riding an uber to the hospital with a highly infectious new desease, people in china infecting on purpose other people....

can we just off the world already? Reduce our population to like 1%??? Man, earth would be heaven again.
 

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Except it’s not ... you do t get pneumonia from the flu, which is a virus, you get it from a secondary bacteria infection, that why antibiotics don’t work in the corona virus ... it’s pneumonia from a virus which we don’t have a cure for ... a virus you have to ride out . With care .
This is wrong.
 
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gela94

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Antibiotics won’t help against this virus ... but it will prevent other bacterial infections, so that the body can fight the virus ...

That’s how it works with viruses.
I tell you something about myself.

I know because about 20 years ago I had a variant of a virus that was known , but I had about 10 times more heavy than regular, I was still at school when I got it in my late teens, I literally slept for 3 months , awake for about 2 hours a day, that year I had to drop my study, after a year I could function, took me 3 -4 years to have the energy I had before the virus ...

No medicine...

I can tell you I don’t ever want to experience this again.. so maybe I am to careful now.
but I prepared for the worst for my wife and son. Masks and everything.
Wow sounds crazy . .so what was it? I guess after living through something like this you have a new appreciation for life. Good you made it :messenger_sun:
 

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I sing "Wu-Han Chicken Ain't Nuttin' ta Mess With!, Wu-Han Chicken Ain't Nuttin' ta Mess With!" whenever I get Chinese food now. That's all.
 
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